MU Coaching Candidates

[Billy Hoyle]

I should have tealed 😉

gotcha.

Though there are enough people who think it is still 1977. Just as Gtown fans think it's still 1984 and St. John's fans think it's still 1985 (well, maybe not after this past summer) and DePaul fans think it's...ah who am I kidding, they don't have fans.

[asdfasdf]

I'm curious to see how Darrin Horn does at Northern Kentucky. He has a good pedigree, just couldn't win big enough at South Carolina after a good stint at Western Kentucky.

[Pakuni]

I'm curious to see how Darrin Horn does at Northern Kentucky. He has a good pedigree, just couldn't win big enough at South Carolina after a good stint at Western Kentucky.

"Just couldn't win big enough at South Carolina" is exceptionally generous.
His first team, with Dave Odom's players, went 21-10.
Three years later, his team went 10-21.

Give me a million more years of Wojo if Darrin Horn is considered a viable alternative.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Tom Crean

[HutchwasClutch]

1) Travis Diener - has the coaching bloodlines, natural leader, played in the league, beloved by fan base.  Maybe he could use a little experience as assistant.  How much experience did Hoiberg have when he was given keys to IA St program.

I just feel like TD will succeed at anything he tries in life, a born winner

2) Drew Diener- huge success at NAIA, including national championship. Now he’s turned around Rockhurst program that had 7 consecutive losing seasons. Assistant at Virginia. Played at SLU. So he’s well familiar with high D-1 level. Plus, he’s a Diener. They’re smart, tough, and they win.

3) Wardle- maybe. He’d be well behind Travis and Drew on my list

[Galway Eagle]

1) Travis Diener - has the coaching bloodlines, natural leader, played in the league, beloved by fan base.  Maybe he could use a little experience as assistant.  How much experience did Hoiberg have when he was given keys to IA St program.

I just feel like TD will succeed at anything he tries in life, a born winner

2) Drew Diener- huge success at NAIA, including national championship. Now he’s turned around Rockhurst program that had 7 consecutive losing seasons. Assistant at Virginia. Played at SLU. So he’s well familiar with high D-1 level. Plus, he’s a Diener. They’re smart, tough, and they win.

3) Wardle- maybe. He’d be well behind Travis and Drew on my list

lmfao

[HutchwasClutch]

For the folks afraid of losing next years recruits, oh well, get over it.  Short term pain, long term gain if you get the right guy.  We accomplished nothing in Henry’s one year. Who knows how long Garcia sticks around if he’s as good as billed.

Plus, how’s Wojo and staffs history making players better? Yeah, not great

You can’t prevent your program from long term gain on hope and prayer of three 18 year old kids.  We all know you never know what you have in recruits until they start playing at this level 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

1) Travis Diener - has the coaching bloodlines, natural leader, played in the league, beloved by fan base.  Maybe he could use a little experience as assistant.  How much experience did Hoiberg have when he was given keys to IA St program.

I just feel like TD will succeed at anything he tries in life, a born winner

2) Drew Diener- huge success at NAIA, including national championship. Now he’s turned around Rockhurst program that had 7 consecutive losing seasons. Assistant at Virginia. Played at SLU. So he’s well familiar with high D-1 level. Plus, he’s a Diener. They’re smart, tough, and they win.

3) Wardle- maybe. He’d be well behind Travis and Drew on my list

Wardle has had more success than the other two at the D1 level. By a long shot. If the first two didn’t have the last name, you wouldn’t be interested in the least.

[HutchwasClutch]

lmfao

SLU is not a high major school? I didn’t say they’re an elite program. But they compete with the big boys

[Cheeks]

For the folks afraid of losing next years recruits, oh well, get over it.  Short term pain, long term gain if you get the right guy.  We accomplished nothing in Henry’s one year. Who knows how long Garcia sticks around if he’s as good as billed.

Plus, how’s Wojo and staffs history making players better? Yeah, not great

You can’t prevent your program from long term gain on hope and prayer of three 18 year old kids.  We all know you never know what you have in recruits until they start playing at this level

Henry was never going to lead us to much, he isn't even that good. Has struggled mightily in the NBA.  It was a marriage of convenience for MU and HE.  Nothing more.

You just assume long term gain is automatically going to happen....sorry, life doesn't work that way.  Honestly, you would be calling for Jay Wright's head right now, or Coach K and others.  I have no idea how Wojo turns out, but he has a great class coming in, we're 37th in the ratings, we have three straight post season trips...he has earned the right to keep on coaching.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Wardle has had more success than the other two at the D1 level. By a long shot. If the first two didn’t have the last name, you wouldn’t be interested in the least.

And when you take a look at Wardle's recruiting efforts at Bradley, you begin to reach for the bottle of Tums.   There's way better options out there.  As I said before, look at Ashley Howard from LaSalle.  He's only in his 2nd year and already has outpaced Wardle in recruiting efforts.  Not to mention, his kids are disciplined defensively and offensively.  He's already better than Wojochokeski 

[Uncle Rico]

And when you take a look at Wardle's recruiting efforts at Bradley, you begin to reach for the bottle of Tums.   There's way better options out there.  As I said before, look at Ashley Howard from LaSalle.  He's only in his 2nd year and already has outpaced Wardle in recruiting efforts.  Not to mention, his kids are disciplined defensively and offensively.  He's already better than Wojochokeski

They’re 244th in offensive efficiency

[HutchwasClutch]

Henry was never going to lead us to much, he isn't even that good. Has struggled mightily in the NBA.  It was a marriage of convenience for MU and HE.  Nothing more.

You just assume long term gain is automatically going to happen....sorry, life doesn't work that way.  Honestly, you would be calling for Jay Wright's head right now, or Coach K and others.  I have no idea how Wojo turns out, but he has a great class coming in, we're 37th in the ratings, we have three straight post season trips...he has earned the right to keep on coaching.

Hence why I followed my long term gain comment with getting the right guy. They’re out there, have to be smart enough to find them. And it’s true, we have no idea if Scholl is capable. But time to find out his chops in his abilities for the schools cash cow program

[Blackhat]

Tom Crean.  Talented x and o guy

[Galway Eagle]

SLU is not a high major school? I didn’t say they’re an elite program. But they compete with the big boys

No. No it is not. A school in the A10 and has less tournament appearances all time as we do from 02 to now

[HutchwasClutch]

Henry was never going to lead us to much, he isn't even that good. Has struggled mightily in the NBA.  It was a marriage of convenience for MU and HE.  Nothing more.

Henry was an excellent college player and was just getting started. Maybe his game isn’t right for NBA, but teams still think enough of him that he’s hanging around the fringes. I think had he just stuck around MU couple more seasons, he would have been NBA ready. He left college too soon was his big mistake

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

They’re 244th in offensive efficiency

And Rising....

[Cheeks]

Henry was an excellent college player and was just getting started. Maybe his game isn’t right for NBA, but teams still think enough of him that he’s hanging around the fringes. I think had he just stuck around MU couple more seasons, he would have been NBA ready. He left college too soon was his big mistake

He left when he did because it was the only shot he would have to get drafted so highly.  That draft class was one of the worst in the last 25 years.  If he plays another year or two years, he gets drafted nowhere close to that high.

[HutchwasClutch]

No. No it is not. A school in the A10 and has less tournament appearances all time as we do from 02 to now

Well, tragically they lost a great coach, who thought highly enough of their program to take the job. We’ll never know succceses they may have reached under Rick, but he was off to a very nice start there

[Herman Cain]

I have great confidence in Bill Scholls ability to find us a very good replacement for Wojo. Scholl has a legitimate circle of contacts in College Athletics and will put those to good use and find us the best available coach whether he comes from college or pro. So when the time comes, I am not worried at all about a solid replacement coming on board.   The market for coaches is very specific to what the openings are and who is available at any given time.   

[Warrior of Law]

1. Travis Diener (with his cousin, Diener)
2. T.J.Otzelberger (currently in 1st year at UNLV)
3. Wardle

[Jay Bee]

There is no Northeast Missouri St. U. There used to be until 1996, as it is now called Truman. .....As for Northwest Missouri St.....forget hoops, hire their football coach and re-start MU football (teal)

They have appeared in nine D-2 National Title games, winning six, in the past couple of decades.

Truman... fka... Northeast Missouri State.. freshman PG Sam Nissen was Dawson Garcia's PG at Prior Lake last season

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Henry was an excellent college player and was just getting started. Maybe his game isn’t right for NBA, but teams still think enough of him that he’s hanging around the fringes. I think had he just stuck around MU couple more seasons, he would have been NBA ready. He left college too soon was his big mistake

Hmmmm..... Henry's shot wasn't anything special at MU.  He was stifled many times by the defense and wasn't a player who could create his own shot either.  In order to be NBA ready he would have had to consistently hit an outside shot.  It's kind of interesting that two less physically gifted players such as Steve Novak and Frank Kaminsky turned into much better NBA players.  It also shows how skill isn't highly prioritized as potential.

[Galway Eagle]

Well, tragically they lost a great coach, who thought highly enough of their program to take the job. We’ll never know succceses they may have reached under Rick, but he was off to a very nice start there

Yeah still doesn't make it a high major job. You're either a high major based on conference, or you win enough to be considered above your level like Gonzaga

A10- Mid Major, upper echelon but still mid major

10 NCAA appearances All time- not impressive certainly not enough to not be a mid major

End of the day you cannot be someone calling for Wojos head because of lack of success then turn around and call SLU a high major.

[HutchwasClutch]

Hmmmm..... Henry's shot wasn't anything special at MU.  He was stifled many times by the defense and wasn't a player who could create his own shot either.  In order to be NBA ready he would have had to consistently hit an outside shot.  It's kind of interesting that two less physically gifted players such as Steve Novak and Frank Kaminsky turned into much better NBA players.  It also shows how skill isn't highly prioritized as potential.

You’re comparing him to two 4 year players!!!

Which does circle back however to my original point had he just stayed couple more years..,