MLB Hot Stove 2019-20

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The DH is an almost universal rule in amateur and professional baseball. As my progressive friends like to say, you're on the wrong side of history on this one.

I don't think I'm on a side of history here. I'm not protesting the MLB for making the switch, I'm not wailing or gnashing my teeth over it. I have a personal preference but understand and accept why the MLB (and other levels of baseball) are going in a different direction.

[Lennys Tap]

I don't think I'm on a side of history here. I'm not protesting the MLB for making the switch, I'm not wailing or gnashing my teeth over it. I have a personal preference but understand and accept why the MLB (and other levels of baseball) are going in a different direction.

It was a joke TAMU.

But while we're on the subject, is wailing and gnashing of teeth a requirement when holding an opinion that others feel to be on the wrong side of history?

[Dish]

That was the best worst inside the park home run ever.

[JWags85]

That was the best worst inside the park home run ever.

Horrific angle/path to the ball? Check. Complete whiff on a still catchable ball?  Check.  Keystone Cops tumble into the net? Check. If you didn't know better, it looked like a terribly veiled effort at throwing the game

[The Sultan]

Should that have been a double?  I thought it bounced into the netting.

[jficke13]

It kinda seemed like he thought there would be a lot less give to the netting, maybe like he expected to bounce off it like a trampoline or a padded fence and then OOOPS nope it's got a lot of slack.

[The Sultan]

Should that have been a double?  I thought it bounced into the netting.

OK I guess the net is considered a wall.  If a ball bounces first, and then off the net, it is in play.  Also errant throws that hit the net are in play as well.

[ChuckyChip]

Entire Cubs v. Cardinals series has been canceled due to COVID.  By the end of the weekend most teams will have played 16 games...Cardinals will have played five.  That's a lot of doublheaders coming up.

[ChuckyChip]

Entire Cubs v. Cardinals series has been canceled due to COVID.  By the end of the weekend most teams will have played 16 games...Cardinals will have played five.  That's a lot of doublheaders coming up.

Apparently the Cardinals series with Pittsburgh scheduled for Mon-Wed has also been cancelled.  That will put St. Louis about 14 games behind most other teams.

[The Sultan]

Apparently the Cardinals series with Pittsburgh scheduled for Mon-Wed has also been cancelled.  That will put St. Louis about 14 games behind most other teams.

Probably just best for them to forfeit the year and move on.

[wadesworld]

Didn't the MLB make it so that there's basically a group of 30 players waiting to be called up so when covid hits someone they aren't short on guys? Why wouldn't they just say, "Well, you decided to go out to a casino during a pandemic and now you can't stop the spread of covid in your clubhouse, so your entire active roster is going into quarantine and the 30 backup players (plus coaches?) are playing for the next 2 weeks. If they go 0-14 too bad, that's on you." Why are they not doing that and instead just cancelling games, ruining their own season and cutting games from other teams?

[HutchwasClutch]

Didn't the MLB make it so that there's basically a group of 30 players waiting to be called up so when covid hits someone they aren't short on guys? Why wouldn't they just say, "Well, you decided to go out to a casino during a pandemic and now you can't stop the spread of covid in your clubhouse, so your entire active roster is going into quarantine and the 30 backup players (plus coaches?) are playing for the next 2 weeks. If they go 0-14 too bad, that's on you." Why are they not doing that and instead just cancelling games, ruining their own season and cutting games from other teams?

Agree with this.  It's stupid to be canceling all these games when teams were given vastly expanded rosters in the form of 60 player pools to handle this.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

28/30 MLB teams have listened to the rules and stayed out of trouble. Why are you going to punish those teams with double headers to make up games with the Marlins and Cardinals because they decided they wanted to go to a strip club/casino.

Make them play the AAA squad or forfeit the games.

[Dr. Blackheart]

28/30 MLB teams have listened to the rules and stayed out of trouble. Why are you going to punish those teams with double headers to make up games with the Marlins and Cardinals because they decided they wanted to go to a strip club/casino.

Make them play the AAA squad or forfeit the games.

Bingo!

[shoothoops]

28/30 MLB teams have listened to the rules and stayed out of trouble. Why are you going to punish those teams with double headers to make up games with the Marlins and Cardinals because they decided they wanted to go to a strip club/casino.

Make them play the AAA squad or forfeit the games.

The Cardinals didn't go to a Casino.

Amazing how fast and far a false rumor spreads. Jerry Hairston Jr. started a false rumor on social media that the Cardinals went to a casino. It is pretty wild how many people believed it without verifying it first, and, still do believe it, or would rather believe that than have whatever the facts may be. Lots and lots of crickets from those that got it wrong.

The Cardinals had one member of their travel party, non-player, that was unknowingly COVID-19 positive on their team plane. 57 people were on the flight. It very quickly spread to different players, coaches, staff. That's all it takes, and, one is too many. Their protocol was not good enough. But no, they weren't out partying or going to casinos.

In this thread alone, 7-9 people have repeated the false rumor

Stay for the Potawatomi Casino video references. 👍

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/facts-refute-claims-cardinals-got-covid-19-at-casino/article_1d8341d8-33f2-5e31-83d9-3c875927161b.html

[Its DJOver]

So who gets the unofficial fan MVP so far, Kelly, or Laureano?

[Dish]

The Cardinals didn't go to a Casino.

Amazing how fast and far a false rumor spreads. Jerry Hairston Jr. started a false rumor on social media that the Cardinals went to a casino. It is pretty wild how many people believed it without verifying it first, and, still do believe it, or would rather believe that than have whatever the facts may be. Lots and lots of crickets from those that got it wrong.

The Cardinals had one member of their travel party, non-player, that was unknowingly COVID-19 positive on their team plane. 57 people were on the flight. It very quickly spread to different players, coaches, staff. That's all it takes, and, one is too many. Their protocol was not good enough. But no, they weren't out partying or going to casinos.

In this thread alone, 7-9 people have repeated the false rumor

Stay for the Potawatomi Casino video references. 👍

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/facts-refute-claims-cardinals-got-covid-19-at-casino/article_1d8341d8-33f2-5e31-83d9-3c875927161b.html

Cardinals should forfeit every game that has been postponed. Period.

[shoothoops]

Cardinals should forfeit every game that has been postponed. Period.

The Cardinals didn't do good enough with their protocol. That's a fact. You spread a false rumor in this thread. This is also a fact. 👍

[Dish]

The Cardinals didn't do good enough with their protocol. That's a fact. You spread a false rumor in this thread. This is also a fact. 👍

Cool.

[GB Warrior]

So who gets the unofficial fan MVP so far, Kelly, or Laureano?

I stan Joe Kelly now.

Any prop bets on the suspension lengths?

[dgies9156]

Cardinals should forfeit every game that has been postponed. Period.

In a 162 game season, the Cardinals could make up most, if not all of the lost games. And if they didn't, OK, a season that long would provide a fair teat of the team's capabilities.

But at 60 games with at least eight cancelled, I have no idea how they'll make these games up and stay within the Basic Agreement between owners and players. We can say doubleheaders, but will they be back in Detroit? At some point, I just think that the team should call it a season and work on next year. Figure out a work-around for everyone else and tell the Cardinals, wel'll see you next year.

That folks, is from a Cardinals fan no less.

[JWags85]

So who gets the unofficial fan MVP so far, Kelly, or Laureano?

Kelly for the pure audacity and execution of it. But Laureano gets a mention cause he calmly was willing to take everyone on. The Astros hitting coach calling him out and inciting him to charge the dugout before hiding behind a bunch of players is the biggest douche in the situation. What a spineless tool

[WI inferiority Complexes]

So who gets the unofficial fan MVP so far, Kelly, or Laureano?

I think the Cardinals should forfeit every game they miss, and we can give the MVP to the casino.

[ChuckyChip]

But at 60 games with at least eight cancelled, I have no idea how they'll make these games up.

With the cancellation of the Pittsburgh series it will be 13 games to make up.  That's a 162-game season equivalent of 35 games to make up.

Cards will have to play 55 games in 46 days.

[cheebs09]

With the cancellation of the Pittsburgh series it will be 13 games to make up.  That's a 162-game season equivalent of 35 games to make up.

Cards will have to play 55 games in 46 days.

Which is going to be tough on the Cardinals, but also very tough on their opponents. Having a series of double headers is going to tax the bullpen, even if it's only 7 innings. That's 14 innings a day.