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The Sultan

At this point they should just forfeit all Cardinals games, including the ones they won, and declare their season over. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUBurrow

Are they releasing revamped schedules on a rolling basis for how they're going to get these games in?  I've been assuming that MLB will flip 9 inning games into 7 inning double headers when convenient, but that they are probably okay with having the season wrap up with an uneven number of games, and then cram in the bear minimum of makeup games for teams who are short to mathematically eliminate teams from the playoffs.

As an aside, that's why it was unwise to expand the playoffs so much.  Much more likely you get, say, the Marlins within .5 game of the last playoff spot having played 6 fewer games and then you have a conundrum on your hands. Do you have a weeks worth of makeup games?  My guess is MLB would just do a one game "makeup tiebreaker" for the last spot or make something else up on the fly.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 10, 2020, 09:39:33 AM
At this point they should just forfeit all Cardinals games, including the ones they won, and declare their season over.

As a Brewers fan, I endorse the Cardinals forfeiting their season and passing the wins to the Brewers.

BM1090

Can't just have them forfeit or you give the AL Central and NL Central teams an unfair advantage for a playoff spot. If you just remove them then each NL Central team gets 10 less games. Not sure what the solution is but I imagine they will play as many as possible. Should just extend the season by a week to ten days.

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on August 10, 2020, 03:16:05 PM
Can't just have them forfeit or you give the AL Central and NL Central teams an unfair advantage for a playoff spot. If you just remove them then each NL Central team gets 10 less games. Not sure what the solution is but I imagine they will play as many as possible. Should just extend the season by a week to ten days.


Remove their games and seed by winning percentage then. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

BM1090

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 10, 2020, 04:01:49 PM

Remove their games and seed by winning percentage then.

I think this is what may end up happening but then how does each NL Central team fill those 10 dates? Off days? Could put them at a competitive disadvantage to have so many in-season breaks.

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on August 10, 2020, 04:47:03 PM
I think this is what may end up happening but then how does each NL Central team fill those 10 dates? Off days? Could put them at a competitive disadvantage to have so many in-season breaks.

Pretty small problem considering.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

ChuckyChip

Cardinals were supposed to play a doubleheader against Detroit on Thursdsy to make up for previously postponed games - now the doubleheader has been postponed.


WarriorFan

Here's a question for all you baseball fans.  Why hasn't every team taken one game of each Astros series and just plonked every batter until they are all ejected from the game?  Just don't stop until the umpires call the game...

Wouldn't it be worth it as an anti-cheating message to the team and the league? 
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

The Sultan

Quote from: WarriorFan on August 11, 2020, 03:51:36 AM
Here's a question for all you baseball fans.  Why hasn't every team taken one game of each Astros series and just plonked every batter until they are all ejected from the game?  Just don't stop until the umpires call the game...

Wouldn't it be worth it as an anti-cheating message to the team and the league? 

No. That's dumb.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

And why did the Astro karma land on the Cardinals?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Quote from: tower912 on August 11, 2020, 07:21:14 AM
And why did the Astro karma land on the Cardinals?

Those are the unwritten rules of baseball for you.

cheebs09

Quote from: tower912 on August 11, 2020, 07:21:14 AM
And why did the Astro karma land on the Cardinals?

The Cardinals must have picked up a virus when they hacked the Astros.

The Sultan

The Cardinals transmit the virus the Right Way.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Mike Clevinger seems like a smart chap.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Pakuni on August 11, 2020, 08:32:47 AM
Mike Clevinger seems like a smart chap.

He and Plesac owe Carlos Carrasco, in particular, one heck of an apology.

Jockey

Cintron gets 20 game suspension. Gotta think it's partly because of his heavy involvement in setting up Astros' cheating.

WarriorFan

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 11, 2020, 07:17:31 AM
No. That's dumb.
So, the cheating was OK and nobody cares?

Or every team is doing it but the Astros were the only ones dumb enough to get caught?

If this happened in a sport I followed/loved I'd be infuriated.  If it went unpunished (as it seemingly has) I'd just never watch the sport again.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

The Sultan

Quote from: WarriorFan on August 11, 2020, 07:40:07 PM
So, the cheating was OK and nobody cares?

Or every team is doing it but the Astros were the only ones dumb enough to get caught?

If this happened in a sport I followed/loved I'd be infuriated.  If it went unpunished (as it seemingly has) I'd just never watch the sport again.

What?  What kind of leap in logic is that?

Your suggestion of continuously throwing at them is dumb.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Lennys Tap

Quote from: WarriorFan on August 11, 2020, 07:40:07 PM

If this happened in a sport I followed/loved I'd be infuriated.  If it went unpunished (as it seemingly has) I'd just never watch the sport again.

IOW, punish yourself. Not uncommon - lots of "I'll never watch a game I love because of something I have no control over"(fill in the blank, lots of different possible answers). I don't get it, but maybe I don't fall out of love easily enough.


Spotcheck Billy

^ that reminds me of lifelong Bucks fans that I know that refuse to watch this summer because they are kneeling, "So if the Bucks win possibly their last championship in your life you'll have an asterisk next to that because of BLM and not the pandemic like everyone else will associate with this season's winner?"

wadesworld

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on August 12, 2020, 10:17:37 AM
^ that reminds me of lifelong Bucks fans that I know that refuse to watch this summer because they are kneeling, "So if the Bucks win possibly their last championship in your life you'll have an asterisk next to that because of BLM and not the pandemic like everyone else will associate with this season's winner?"

Or lifelong MU fans who will begin distancing themselves from the program if they (along with the rest of the BE, and many other conferences I would guess) put a BLM patch on their uniforms.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: WarriorFan on August 11, 2020, 03:51:36 AM
Here's a question for all you baseball fans.  Why hasn't every team taken one game of each Astros series and just plonked every batter until they are all ejected from the game?  Just don't stop until the umpires call the game...

Wouldn't it be worth it as an anti-cheating message to the team and the league?

Giving the Astros a free win each series?k.

Jockey

How often can Counsel keep starting Lauer, Lindblom, and Anderson? With a weak offense, there is virtually no chance to win when one of those guys start.

shoothoops

#1424
The Cardinals will be playing at the White Sox this weekend, starting Saturday with a doubleheader. They will also play a doubleheader Monday and Wednesday of next week at Wrigley Field vs the Cubs.

The Cardinals are renting 41 cars and a bus for the trip. We'll see.

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