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Jockey

Quote from: BM1090 on September 03, 2020, 10:46:14 PM
Smoak was a failure. Way too early to judge Garcia, Narvaez, etc.

Lauer, Lindstrom, Holt.

Terrible off-season.

cheebs09

Quote from: Jockey on September 04, 2020, 11:59:03 AM
Lauer, Lindstrom, Holt.

Terrible off-season.

I feel like it's tough to judge since the strategy is clearly built for 162 games. Stearns goes looking to accumulate a bunch of guys that could have bounce back years, and hope a few do and stick with them. For those that struggle, it's relatively easy to move on.

Unfortunately, with the shortened season, it's tough to make it through that depth to find the hot hands. Typically, the September team looks a lot different than the April team in Stearns tenures.

If it were a 162 game season, we'd be only 4.5 games back at the 22% mark in the season. They are only 2 games below .500. That's without too many guys playing well and Yelich looking pretty rough. We'd be a little worried but know there's a lot of time left in the season.

BM1090

Quote from: Jockey on September 04, 2020, 11:38:04 AM
Avi is just a guy.

9 years in the league. 8.0 WAR

Blah

6.8 WAR the past 3 years. Not sure why his age 20-25 seasons have any impact on his age 29 performance. If he performs like he did in 2017 or 2019 he'll be a great add. No real reason to believe he won't. It's been less than 40 games.

BM1090

Quote from: Jockey on September 04, 2020, 11:59:03 AM
Lauer, Lindstrom, Holt.

Terrible off-season.

Agreed on Holt. Not going to judge two pitchers (one of whom is injured) after a combined 8 starts.

buckchuckler

Quote from: BM1090 on September 04, 2020, 02:52:42 PM
6.8 WAR the past 3 years. Not sure why his age 20-25 seasons have any impact on his age 29 performance. If he performs like he did in 2017 or 2019 he'll be a great add. No real reason to believe he won't. It's been less than 40 games.

I do enjoy that his ages 20-25 season shouldn't be considered, but his age 26 season is reason for hope.

MU82

Quote from: BM1090 on September 03, 2020, 10:46:14 PM
Smoak was a failure.

Well, you know the old saying:

Where there's Smoak, there's failure.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

BM1090

Quote from: buckchuckler on September 05, 2020, 07:39:53 AM
I do enjoy that his ages 20-25 season shouldn't be considered, but his age 26 season is reason for hope.

If you're looking at an employee would you judge his performance based on his first few years or his most recent years of performance? Which one is more indicative of future performance?

Jockey

Quote from: BM1090 on September 05, 2020, 03:19:12 PM
If you're looking at an employee would you judge his performance based on his first few years or his most recent years of performance? Which one is more indicative of future performance?

I think performance is much more linear in most normal jobs. It isn't in baseball. As a Brewer fan, I hope Avi does well. In 6 weeks (yes, a small sample size), I have seen no indication of it happening. Many guys struggle when moving to a new team - I'm hoping that is the issue and he comes around.

shoothoops

#1583
Hall of Fame Human Being, Lou Brock, has passed away today at 81.

He was pretty good at baseball too.

3,023 hits
938 Stolen Bases
3 World Series, 2 Titles
MLB Hall of Fame

In 21 World Series Games:

.391 Avg
1.079 OPS
4 HR
13 RBI
14 Stolen Bases




tower912

Thank you for not sliding into home in the 68 World Series.

Like Tom Seaver, another childhood hero.


Poop.

RIP.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Heard mentioned on radio that Tom Seaver was the pitcher Lou Brock had the most at bats at in his career and the same for Seaver, Lou Brock was the batter he faced the most in his career.

GB Warrior

Someone tell the brewers they don't get to amortize their runs over the rest of the week

buckchuckler

Quote from: GB Warrior on September 09, 2020, 07:04:50 PM
Someone tell the brewers they don't get to amortize their runs over the rest of the week

Brewers win by 19, and aren't even the biggest win of the day.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: buckchuckler on September 09, 2020, 10:30:29 PM
Brewers win by 19, and aren't even the biggest win of the day.

Wonder what the best offer for Hader at the deadline was.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 13, 2020, 07:05:50 AM
THA*






Trade His Ass


They should have.  I don't think relievers like Hader have a long shelf life.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 13, 2020, 07:20:01 AM

They should have.  I don't think relievers like Hader have a long shelf life.

Overreact much to one outing? Because he hadn't given up a HR until last night, his era was 2.13 going in, and he had blown only one other save.  For crying out loud.

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on September 13, 2020, 07:27:45 AM
Overreact much to one outing? Because he hadn't given up a HR until last night, his era was 2.13 going in, and he had blown only one other save.  For crying out loud.


Been saying it for awhile.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUfan12

Wanting to sell high on relievers is a philosophy independent of any single outing.

The Sultan

Quote from: MUfan12 on September 13, 2020, 08:20:18 AM
Wanting to sell high on relievers is a philosophy independent of any single outing.

Yep.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Brewers aren't going anywhere with or without Hader. They're devoid of talent with a pathetic farm system, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MUfan12 on September 13, 2020, 08:20:18 AM
Wanting to sell high on relievers is a philosophy independent of any single outing.

Of course. And for a mediocre team like the Brewers, a guy like Hader is the perfect trade chip. At the deadline his ERA was 0.00 and he hadn't given up a hit (let alone a run) all year. His value was never going to be higher. Now his ERA is 4.61 and he's blown 2 saves in his lest 3 outings. I'm sure he'll bring a nice haul in the off season, but it won't be higher than it was 2 weeks ago. Injury or ineffectiveness could make it much lower.

cheebs09

If they are going to use him only as a 9th inning closer for 3 outs, he's worth more in a trade than on the team in my opinion. I'd think differently if he was being used for multiple innings and being used in the highest leverage moments regardless of inning.

We went to the playoffs with Solomon Torres as our closet for goodness sake. Those guys can be found. Plus, you factor in the randomness of relievers performance, and it would be best to sell high.

shoothoops

After moving into 5th place all by himself on the all time MLB Doubles list last night, Albert Pujols ties Willie Mays for 5th place all time in MLB Home Runs with 660.

https://twitter.com/FabianArdaya/status/1305259238457917441?s=09

He is also top 5 in RBI's and Total Bases.


Dish

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 15, 2020, 05:53:54 PM
I know injuries, weird season, but I didn't think this Sox team would suck, and so far they do.

Anderson, Moncada, Grandal, Abreu, Mazara combined 0-25 in today's doubleheader.

Mazara and Encarnacion can both leave town right now as far as I'm concerned.

White Sox are 22-5 since that bad doubleheader.

I still am behind Mazara and Encarnacion leaving town.

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