Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets

[Windyplayer]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of March 4
New Old
12   13   Creighton   
13   14   Villanova   
14   12   Seton Hall   
17   20   Butler   
26   26   Marquette   
40   44   Providence   
42   41   Xavier   
62   62   Georgetown   
70   66   St. John's
83   81   DePaul

3/4 Team Sheets
MU is on page 26
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20March%204,%202020.pdf

Wait, I thought we were out of the tournament, fired our coach, and are in full-blown national search mode?

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 5
New Old
12   12   Creighton   
13   13   Villanova   
14   14   Seton Hall   
17   17   Butler   
25   26   Marquette   
40   40   Providence   
42   42   Xavier   
65   62   Georgetown   
69   70   St. John's
83   83   DePaul   

[warriorfred]

The NET rating determines the National Champion, correct?

[warriorfred]

I lived in Minnesota in 1996, and was in a bar on Selection Sunday.  The Gophers finished the season 18-12, and won their last 3 Big Ten games to finish the conference at 10-8.

They missed the tournament.

The level of bitching was high with fans sighting all the usual metrics at the time . . .  SOS was good, above .500 in the Big 10, a few victories against ranked opponents, etc.  All the statistical arguments were valid, but Minnesota did not pass the "eye test."

They were an average team that lost in the 2nd round of the NIT.

It is painful to admit, but absent a victory at St. Johns and semi-final run in the BET, Marquette does not pass the eye test.

[Litehouse]

It is painful to admit, but absent a victory at St. Johns and semi-final run in the BET, Marquette does not pass the eye test.

How much have you watched the teams below us?  We can lose our next 2 games and we're still in.

[CTWarrior]

The NET rating determines the National Champion, correct?

No, but it has a hand in determining who gets to play for it.

[wadesworld]

Marquette is 25th in the NET and 29th in KenPom.  They're ranked higher in KenPom than literally every team in the SEC.  If Marquette doesn't deserve to be in the NCAA Tournament then just let the P6 conference tournament winners, minus the SEC winner, plus 3 at large teams battle out an 8 team Tournament.

Stop being dumb.

PS, since I apparently hurt one of the dentists' feelings in a different thread, if being called out as being dumb hurts your feelings, there's a simple solution.  Either educate yourself and have a reasonable discussion or don't post your irrational thoughts.  Or accept that when you post something stupid (Bobby Hurley should be hired to replace Wojo...when he's exactly what people are crying about Wojo for - sub .500 conference record in his 5 years in the killer Pac12, no Tourney wins) you'll be called out.

[brewcity77]

It is painful to admit, but absent a victory at St. Johns and semi-final run in the BET, Marquette does not pass the eye test.

Your 24-year-old story has no bearing on today's selection process. Your assertion that Marquette might miss the NCAA tournament does not pass the eye test.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

It is painful to admit, but absent a victory at St. Johns and semi-final run in the BET, Marquette does not pass the eye test.

Have your eyes tested any other teams below, say, the top 30 seeds?  My guess is not, based on your rather clueless assertion. 

[shoothoops]

I lived in Minnesota in 1996, and was in a bar on Selection Sunday.  The Gophers finished the season 18-12, and won their last 3 Big Ten games to finish the conference at 10-8.

They missed the tournament.

The level of bitching was high with fans sighting all the usual metrics at the time . . .  SOS was good, above .500 in the Big 10, a few victories against ranked opponents, etc.  All the statistical arguments were valid, but Minnesota did not pass the "eye test."

They were an average team that lost in the 2nd round of the NIT.

It is painful to admit, but absent a victory at St. Johns and semi-final run in the BET, Marquette does not pass the eye test.

In 1996, Minnesota had an RPI of 46. All but four of their wins were outside of the top 50. Only one was top 25.

MU 2020 has a better resume than Minnesota 1996.

[Herman Cain]

3/5 NET Nitty Gritty. Team sheets not posted yet
MU is on line 25
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Nitty%20Gritty%20-%20March%205,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252Fsolutions%252Frpi%252FSitePages%252FHome%2Easpx%26wdFCCState%3D1

[WarriorPride68]

down to an 8 seed on Bracket Matrix

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 6
New Old
12   12   Creighton   
13   13   Villanova   
14   14   Seton Hall   
17   17   Butler   
25   25   Marquette   
38   40   Providence   
40   42   Xavier   
64   65   Georgetown   
69   69   St. John's
82   83   DePaul
3/6 NET Nitty Gritty No team sheets posted
MU is on number 25
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Nitty%20Gritty%20-%20March%206,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252Fsolutions%252Frpi%252FSitePages%252FHome%2Easpx%26wdFCCState%3D1

[1SE]

Marquette being a mortal lock for the NCAA (which they are) and Wojo overseeing another epic late season collapse are not mutually incompatible. The former doesn't wash away the latter.

[willie warrior]

Marquette is 25th in the NET and 29th in KenPom.  They're ranked higher in KenPom than literally every team in the SEC.  If Marquette doesn't deserve to be in the NCAA Tournament then just let the P6 conference tournament winners, minus the SEC winner, plus 3 at large teams battle out an 8 team Tournament.

Stop being dumb.

PS, since I apparently hurt one of the dentists' feelings in a different thread, if being called out as being dumb hurts your feelings, there's a simple solution.  Either educate yourself and have a reasonable discussion or don't post your irrational thoughts.  Or accept that when you post something stupid (Bobby Hurley should be hired to replace Wojo...when he's exactly what people are crying about Wojo for - sub .500 conference record in his 5 years in the killer Pac12, no Tourney wins) you'll be called out.

Hmmm....Manesworld calling out others as dumb/stupid, or maybe only being below his plane of worthiness. Smells like the Sultan of South Bend.

[wadesworld]

Hmmm....Manesworld calling out others as dumb/stupid, or maybe only being below his plane of worthiness. Smells like the Sultan of South Bend.

No. I'm chicos.

Don't want to be called out, don't be dumb.

[shoothoops]

MU 26th in NCAA Net rankings this morning

[Silkk the Shaka]

Marquette is 25th in the NET and 29th in KenPom.  They're ranked higher in KenPom than literally every team in the SEC.  If Marquette doesn't deserve to be in the NCAA Tournament then just let the P6 conference tournament winners, minus the SEC winner, plus 3 at large teams battle out an 8 team Tournament.

Stop being dumb.

PS, since I apparently hurt one of the dentists' feelings in a different thread, if being called out as being dumb hurts your feelings, there's a simple solution.  Either educate yourself and have a reasonable discussion or don't post your irrational thoughts.  Or accept that when you post something stupid (Bobby Hurley should be hired to replace Wojo...when he's exactly what people are crying about Wojo for - sub .500 conference record in his 5 years in the killer Pac12, no Tourney wins) you'll be called out.

MU definitely deserves to be in the tournament based on overall resume. But I'd be shocked if we don't get blown out in the first round by a team below us in NET at this point.

[HutchwasClutch]

MU 26th in NCAA Net rankings this morning

We've been falling off a cliff last three weeks, but I don't think it's barely moved the needle on this metric.  Deeply flawed!!

[rocky_warrior]

MU definitely deserves to be in the tournament based on overall resume. But I'd be shocked if we don't get blown out in the first round by a team below us in NET at this point.

I would be shocked by a first round NCAA blowout (loss) given MUs projected seed.  They've been playing poorly, but I still think almost every BE team is better than most teams in the 7-10 seed range - thus giving Marquette a good chance for a first round victory on a neutral floor.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 7
New Old
11   12   Creighton   
13   13   Villanova   
16   14   Seton Hall   
18   17   Butler   
26   25   Marquette   
36   38   Providence   
43   40   Xavier   
62   64   Georgetown   
66   69   St. John's
86   82   DePaul
3/7 Team Sheets
MU is on page 26

https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20March%207,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252Fsolutions%252Frpi%252FSitePages%252FHome%252Easpx

[StillWarriors]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 7
New Old
11   12   Creighton   
13   13   Villanova   
16   14   Seton Hall   
18   17   Butler   
26   25   Marquette   
36   38   Providence   
43   40   Xavier   
62   64   Georgetown   
66   69   St. John's
86   82   DePaul
3/7 Team Sheets
MU is on page 26

https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20March%207,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252Fsolutions%252Frpi%252FSitePages%252FHome%252Easpx

It is amazing that Prov's non-conf was so bad it is still only where it is after they have played like a top 15 team in the country for about a month now. If they end up in the 8/9 slot, that is a tough match-up for some No. 1 seed in the second round if Prov wins their first. Dangerous team right now.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of March 8
New Old
11   11   Creighton   
13   13   Villanova   
15   16   Seton Hall   
19   18   Butler
26   26   Marquette   
36   36   Providence   
44   43   Xavier   
62   62   Georgetown   
66   66   St. John's
86   86   DePaul
3/8 Team Sheets
MU is on page 26
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20March%208,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252fsolutions%252frpi%252fSitePages%252fHome%2Easpx%26wdFCCState%3D1

[Silkk the Shaka]

I would be shocked by a first round NCAA blowout (loss) given MUs projected seed.  They've been playing poorly, but I still think almost every BE team is better than most teams in the 7-10 seed range - thus giving Marquette a good chance for a first round victory on a neutral floor.

Of course 3 point shooting is a great equalizer, but the defense has been atrocious lately, and any team in the 7-10 range that's bigger/stronger/quicker than us (most) I would give a 75% chance of beating us, regardless of conference affiliation

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Rankings as of March 9
AP
7. Creighton
11. Nova
16. The Hall
24. Butler
Others Receiving Votes -Providence
Coaches
8. Nova
9. Creighton
15. The Hall
21. Butler
Others Receiving Votes -Providence