Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets

[muguru]

MU moves up to #30 from #35(not as much as I thought they would move). USC moves from #51 to #46, now giving MU another Q1 win(for now anyway). K State moved from #103 all the way up to #85. The NET is weird. I don't know why they can't/don't release the formula.

[Herman Cain]

Big East D1 Net rankings as of games of January 18
New Old
7   7   Butler   
12   11   Seton Hall   
17   20   Villanova   
30   35   Marquette   
33   30   Creighton   
51   63   DePaul   
52   48   Georgetown   
68   69   Xavier   
76   75   St. John's
80   85   Providence   

1/18 Team Sheets
MU is on page 30

https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2018,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252Fsolutions%252Frpi%252FSitePages%252FHome%252Easpx

[brewcity77]

The NET is weird. I don't know why they can't/don't release the formula.

They don't want teams to game the system like they did with RPI.

[PGsHeroes32]

MU moves up to #30 from #35(not as much as I thought they would move). USC moves from #51 to #46, now giving MU another Q1 win(for now anyway). K State moved from #103 all the way up to #85. The NET is weird. I don't know why they can't/don't release the formula.

Moving to 30 is about what I expected

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of January 19
New Old
7   7   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
17   17   Villanova   
30   30   Marquette   
33   33   Creighton   
51   51   DePaul   
52   52   Georgetown
68   68   Xavier   
76   76   St. John's
79   80   Providence

1/19 Team Sheets
MU is on page 30
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2019,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252fsolutions%252frpi%252fSitePages%252fHome%2Easpx%26wdFCCState%3D1

[Herman Cain]

Big East Rankings January 20
AP
9. The Hall
10. Nova
13. Butler
Others receiving votes-Creighton , MU
Coaches
10. The Hall
11.Nova
12. Butler
Others receiving votes-Creighton,MU

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 20
New Old
8   7   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
17   17   Villanova   
30   30   Marquette   
33   33   Creighton   
52   51   DePaul   
53   52   Georgetown   
68   68   Xavier   
77   76   St. John's
80   79   Providence   

1/20 Team Sheets
MU is on page 30
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2020,%202020.pdf

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 21
New Old
9   8   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
16   17   Villanova   
28   30   Marquette   
34   33   Creighton   
52   52   DePaul   
53   53   Georgetown   
68   68   Xavier   
80   77   St. John's
81   80   Providence   

[cheebs09]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 21
New Old
9   8   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
16   17   Villanova   
28   30   Marquette   
34   33   Creighton   
52   52   DePaul   
53   53   Georgetown   
68   68   Xavier   
80   77   St. John's
81   80   Providence

I'm a little surprised we moved up with Purdue and KSU getting killed, and a home win against a lower team.

[Its DJOver]

I'm a little surprised we moved up with Purdue and KSU getting killed, and a home win against a lower team.

We won and covered, Maryland won and covered, Madison won and covered.  Even with K-State and Purdue losing, up 2 seems about right.

[SaveOD238]

It's time to start thinking about Quadrants and Team Sheets.

Right now the glaring hole in our resume is the lack of Quad 1A wins.  We have four losses: Maryland, Seton Hall, Wisconsin, and Creighton.  Our Quad 1B is better with three wins: Nova, Georgetown, USC.  Overall that gets us to 3-4 in Quad 1, but the Quad 1A losses hurt.

Good thing we still have some chances to pick up Quad 1A wins: Butler x 2, Seton Hall, and @Villanova are all likely to be Quad 1A games, while @DePaul and @Xavier are very winnable Quad 1B games.  Plus any of these games in MSG would be Quad 1s: (1A) Hall, Nova, Butler, (1B) Creighton, maybe Depaul and Georgetown.

Would also be nice to see Providence rise a few spots and turn that Quad 3 loss into a Quad 2 loss.

[brewcity77]

It's time to start thinking about Quadrants and Team Sheets.

Right now the glaring hole in our resume is the lack of Quad 1A wins.  We have four losses: Maryland, Seton Hall, Wisconsin, and Creighton.  Our Quad 1B is better with three wins: Nova, Georgetown, USC.  Overall that gets us to 3-4 in Quad 1, but the Quad 1A losses hurt.

Good thing we still have some chances to pick up Quad 1A wins: Butler x 2, Seton Hall, and @Villanova are all likely to be Quad 1A games, while @DePaul and @Xavier are very winnable Quad 1B games.  Plus any of these games in MSG would be Quad 1s: (1A) Hall, Nova, Butler, (1B) Creighton, maybe Depaul and Georgetown.

Would also be nice to see Providence rise a few spots and turn that Quad 3 loss into a Quad 2 loss.

The good news is Villanova is really close to Q1A. The cut-off is 15 and they are currently 16. I'm looking at the lower quadrants a lot. I'm hoping K-State can move to the top-75 for another Q1 win. St. John's, Providence, and Davidson are all pretty close to moving up to Q2 as well. Would be really nice to see that movement.

Right now, Purdue, K-State, and Davidson are the three biggest resume disappointments. Really thought those could all be Q1 games at the start of the season. Davidson especially, both Grady & Gudmundsson are posting career lows in offensive efficiency.

[Herman Cain]

1/21 Team Sheets
MU is on page 28
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2021,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252Fsolutions%252Frpi%252FSitePages%252FHome%2Easpx%26wdFCCState%3D1

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of Games of January 22
New Old
9   9   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
16   16   Villanova   
27   28   Marquette   
28   34   Creighton   
55   53   Georgetown
59   52   DePaul   
61   68   Xavier   
79   80   St. John's
80   81   Providence   

[Herman Cain]

1/22 Team Sheets
MU is on page 27
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2022,%202020.pdf

[CountryRoads]

1/22 Team Sheets
MU is on page 27
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2022,%202020.pdf

Providence loss still sitting in Q3. They're a decent team but really screwed the Big East by having such an awful non-conference.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Net Rankings as of games of January 23
New Old
8   9   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall
15   16   Villanova   
26   27   Marquette   
27   28   Creighton   
55   55   Georgetown   
57   59   DePaul   
60   61   Xavier   
79   79   St. John's
81   80   Providence   

[Herman Cain]

1/23 Team Sheets
MU is On Page 27
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2023,%202020.pdf

[Herman Cain]

Big East Net ranking as of games of January 24
New Old
8   8   Butler   
13   12   Seton Hall   
15   15   Villanova   
25   26   Marquette
26   27   Creighton   
55   55   Georgetown   
57   57   DePaul   
61   60   Xavier   
80   81   Providence   
81   79   St. John's

1/24 Team Sheets
MU is on page 25
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2024,%202020.pdf

[tower912]

Losing in OT at Butler moved MU up.   

[DoctorV]

Thanks for posting these daily Herman, it's appreciated.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like this is a solid Big East year. I think many of the teams have the makeup to do well in the postseason, and I will be really rooting for them all. Not many hate-able teams in conference this season, a lot of things to like

[Heisenberg]

Losing in OT at Butler moved MU up.   

And MU remained unchanged at 32 in KenPom numbers.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And MU remained unchanged at 32 in KenPom numbers.

Rank stayed the same but their score went up a little bit.

[Tha Hound]

Rank stayed the same but their score went up a little bit.

The Committee is also obviously looking at NET moreso than Kenpom, so that's a plus.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Losing in OT at Butler moved MU up.   

We should lose every game!