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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #100 on: January 19, 2020, 07:13:21 AM »
MU moves up to #30 from #35(not as much as I thought they would move). USC moves from #51 to #46, now giving MU another Q1 win(for now anyway). K State moved from #103 all the way up to #85. The NET is weird. I don't know why they can't/don't release the formula.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #101 on: January 19, 2020, 07:37:16 AM »
Big East D1 Net rankings as of games of January 18
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7   7   Butler   
12   11   Seton Hall   
17   20   Villanova   
30   35   Marquette   
33   30   Creighton   
51   63   DePaul   
52   48   Georgetown   
68   69   Xavier   
76   75   St. John's
80   85   Providence   

1/18 Team Sheets
MU is on page 30

https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2018,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252Fsolutions%252Frpi%252FSitePages%252FHome%252Easpx

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #102 on: January 19, 2020, 09:27:30 AM »
The NET is weird. I don't know why they can't/don't release the formula.

They don't want teams to game the system like they did with RPI.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #103 on: January 19, 2020, 09:28:36 AM »
MU moves up to #30 from #35(not as much as I thought they would move). USC moves from #51 to #46, now giving MU another Q1 win(for now anyway). K State moved from #103 all the way up to #85. The NET is weird. I don't know why they can't/don't release the formula.

Moving to 30 is about what I expected
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #104 on: January 20, 2020, 05:01:18 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of January 19
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7   7   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
17   17   Villanova   
30   30   Marquette   
33   33   Creighton   
51   51   DePaul   
52   52   Georgetown
68   68   Xavier   
76   76   St. John's
79   80   Providence

1/19 Team Sheets
MU is on page 30
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2019,%202020.pdf?Mobile=1&Source=%2Fsolutions%2Frpi%2F%5Flayouts%2F15%2Fmobile%2Fmblwikia%2Easpx%3FUrl%3D%252fsolutions%252frpi%252fSitePages%252fHome%2Easpx%26wdFCCState%3D1

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #105 on: January 20, 2020, 11:58:50 AM »
Big East Rankings January 20
AP
9. The Hall
10. Nova
13. Butler
Others receiving votes-Creighton , MU
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10. The Hall
11.Nova
12. Butler
Others receiving votes-Creighton,MU

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #106 on: January 21, 2020, 08:58:38 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 20
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8   7   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
17   17   Villanova   
30   30   Marquette   
33   33   Creighton   
52   51   DePaul   
53   52   Georgetown   
68   68   Xavier   
77   76   St. John's
80   79   Providence   

1/20 Team Sheets
MU is on page 30
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2020,%202020.pdf

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #107 on: January 22, 2020, 07:47:11 AM »
Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 21
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9   8   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
16   17   Villanova   
28   30   Marquette   
34   33   Creighton   
52   52   DePaul   
53   53   Georgetown   
68   68   Xavier   
80   77   St. John's
81   80   Providence   

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #108 on: January 22, 2020, 08:51:47 AM »
Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 21
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9   8   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
16   17   Villanova   
28   30   Marquette   
34   33   Creighton   
52   52   DePaul   
53   53   Georgetown   
68   68   Xavier   
80   77   St. John's
81   80   Providence

I’m a little surprised we moved up with Purdue and KSU getting killed, and a home win against a lower team.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #109 on: January 22, 2020, 08:59:04 AM »
I’m a little surprised we moved up with Purdue and KSU getting killed, and a home win against a lower team.

We won and covered, Maryland won and covered, Madison won and covered.  Even with K-State and Purdue losing, up 2 seems about right.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #110 on: January 22, 2020, 09:39:16 AM »
It's time to start thinking about Quadrants and Team Sheets.

Right now the glaring hole in our resume is the lack of Quad 1A wins.  We have four losses: Maryland, Seton Hall, Wisconsin, and Creighton.  Our Quad 1B is better with three wins: Nova, Georgetown, USC.  Overall that gets us to 3-4 in Quad 1, but the Quad 1A losses hurt.

Good thing we still have some chances to pick up Quad 1A wins: Butler x 2, Seton Hall, and @Villanova are all likely to be Quad 1A games, while @DePaul and @Xavier are very winnable Quad 1B games.  Plus any of these games in MSG would be Quad 1s: (1A) Hall, Nova, Butler, (1B) Creighton, maybe Depaul and Georgetown.

Would also be nice to see Providence rise a few spots and turn that Quad 3 loss into a Quad 2 loss.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #111 on: January 22, 2020, 10:14:47 AM »
It's time to start thinking about Quadrants and Team Sheets.

Right now the glaring hole in our resume is the lack of Quad 1A wins.  We have four losses: Maryland, Seton Hall, Wisconsin, and Creighton.  Our Quad 1B is better with three wins: Nova, Georgetown, USC.  Overall that gets us to 3-4 in Quad 1, but the Quad 1A losses hurt.

Good thing we still have some chances to pick up Quad 1A wins: Butler x 2, Seton Hall, and @Villanova are all likely to be Quad 1A games, while @DePaul and @Xavier are very winnable Quad 1B games.  Plus any of these games in MSG would be Quad 1s: (1A) Hall, Nova, Butler, (1B) Creighton, maybe Depaul and Georgetown.

Would also be nice to see Providence rise a few spots and turn that Quad 3 loss into a Quad 2 loss.

The good news is Villanova is really close to Q1A. The cut-off is 15 and they are currently 16. I'm looking at the lower quadrants a lot. I'm hoping K-State can move to the top-75 for another Q1 win. St. John's, Providence, and Davidson are all pretty close to moving up to Q2 as well. Would be really nice to see that movement.

Right now, Purdue, K-State, and Davidson are the three biggest resume disappointments. Really thought those could all be Q1 games at the start of the season. Davidson especially, both Grady & Gudmundsson are posting career lows in offensive efficiency.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #113 on: January 23, 2020, 06:49:31 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of Games of January 22
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9   9   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall   
16   16   Villanova   
27   28   Marquette   
28   34   Creighton   
55   53   Georgetown
59   52   DePaul   
61   68   Xavier   
79   80   St. John's
80   81   Providence   

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« Reply #115 on: January 23, 2020, 11:51:41 PM »
1/22 Team Sheets
MU is on page 27
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2022,%202020.pdf

Providence loss still sitting in Q3. They’re a decent team but really screwed the Big East by having such an awful non-conference.

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« Reply #116 on: January 24, 2020, 07:30:55 AM »
Big East Net Rankings as of games of January 23
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8   9   Butler   
12   12   Seton Hall
15   16   Villanova   
26   27   Marquette   
27   28   Creighton   
55   55   Georgetown   
57   59   DePaul   
60   61   Xavier   
79   79   St. John's
81   80   Providence   

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« Reply #118 on: January 25, 2020, 07:36:43 AM »
Big East Net ranking as of games of January 24
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8   8   Butler   
13   12   Seton Hall   
15   15   Villanova   
25   26   Marquette
26   27   Creighton   
55   55   Georgetown   
57   57   DePaul   
61   60   Xavier   
80   81   Providence   
81   79   St. John's

1/24 Team Sheets
MU is on page 25
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%2024,%202020.pdf

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« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2020, 08:58:41 AM »
Losing in OT at Butler moved MU up.   
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #120 on: January 25, 2020, 11:34:04 AM »
Thanks for posting these daily Herman, it’s appreciated.

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like this is a solid Big East year. I think many of the teams have the makeup to do well in the postseason, and I will be really rooting for them all. Not many hate-able teams in conference this season, a lot of things to like

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #121 on: January 25, 2020, 12:55:07 PM »
Losing in OT at Butler moved MU up.   

And MU remained unchanged at 32 in KenPom numbers.

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« Reply #122 on: January 25, 2020, 02:27:11 PM »
And MU remained unchanged at 32 in KenPom numbers.

Rank stayed the same but their score went up a little bit.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #123 on: January 25, 2020, 02:49:24 PM »
Rank stayed the same but their score went up a little bit.

The Committee is also obviously looking at NET moreso than Kenpom, so that's a plus.

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« Reply #124 on: January 25, 2020, 04:30:34 PM »
Losing in OT at Butler moved MU up.   
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