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Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2019, 03:26:56 PM
Mid-majors, low-majors are like porn.  You know it when you see it

Maybe the only time i will ever root for kansas, hate hate hate Dayton!
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

wadesworld

#151
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 27, 2019, 12:42:32 PM
Think he would be an intriguing candidate.  While he's only made NCAA 3 times in his 12-year coaching career, VCU, Alabama, and Dayton aren't exactly tradition-rich programs and certainly don't have the resources, recruiting appeal, and tradition of MU.  He closes out Year 3 at Dayton strong and makes a dent in NCAA via a win or two?  I think you consider him - only if we miss NCAA this year in Year 6 of Wojo regime.  Keep Stan, and we'd likely keep the recruiting class.

Every main contributor to Dayton committed before Grant was the head coach.

Nukem2

Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2019, 08:51:20 PM
Every main contributor to Dayton committed before Grant was the head coach.
Yep, all Archie's guys.

jonny09

Go and look at the rankings of Dayton's players.  Chalk full of zero, two, and three star recruits.  Begs the question.  How are they playing so well?  I'll wait for answers.

wadesworld

Quote from: jonny09 on November 27, 2019, 08:58:46 PM
Go and look at the rankings of Dayton's players.  Chalk full of zero, two, and three star recruits.  Begs the question.  How are they playing so well?  I'll wait for answers.

Playing so well through 6 games of the season. Those 2 and 3 star recruits that are playing so well haven't made the Tournament the last 2 years.

🏀

Quote from: jonny09 on November 27, 2019, 08:58:46 PM
Go and look at the rankings of Dayton's players.  Chalk full of zero, two, and three star recruits.  Begs the question.  How are they playing so well?  I'll wait for answers.

Dayton is a magical place, the UD Arena brings out the best in young men. You wouldn't understand.

Elonsmusk

Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2019, 08:51:20 PM
Every main contributor to Dayton committed before Grant was the head coach.
Not totally true.  Brought in two transfers - Rodney Chatman and Ibi Watson.  Also their top guy Obi Toppin was Grant's recruit.

Maybe we can do better than Grant should we re-enter the market for a head coach. That aside it will be yet another indictment of Wojo if Dayton finishes ahead of us in KenPom/NCAA tournament in year 3 of his tenure.  Bad enough that Travis Steele at Xavier and LaVell Jordan at Butler are seemingly outperforming Wojo in years two and three of their tenures, respectively.

Dayton went to OT against Kansas tonight.  I shudder to think how we'd stack up against Kansas at present.

brewcity77

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 27, 2019, 09:28:52 PMBad enough that Travis Steele at Xavier and LaVell Jordan at Butler are seemingly outperforming Wojo in years two and three of their tenures, respectively.

On what basis? Playing more games against cupcakes? Beating a Mizzou team that hasn't beat anyone?

MuMark

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 27, 2019, 09:28:52 PM
Not totally true.  Brought in two transfers - Rodney Chatman and Ibi Watson.  Also their top guy Obi Toppin was Grant's recruit.

Maybe we can do better than Grant should we re-enter the market for a head coach. That aside it will be yet another indictment of Wojo if Dayton finishes ahead of us in KenPom/NCAA tournament in year 3 of his tenure.  Bad enough that Travis Steele at Xavier and LaVell Jordan at Butler are seemingly outperforming Wojo in years two and three of their tenures, respectively.

Dayton went to OT against Kansas tonight.  I shudder to think how we'd stack up against Kansas at present.

Yeah this is a dumb take.

The only thing this says is that in any given year some teams are good and others aren't as good. Dayton looks like they are good this year.....is it an indictment of Bohiem and Syracuse if they are better then them in year 3 of his tenure? I mean Jimmy is a Hall of famer he should be better then Dayton right? Was it an indictment of Huggins when WV was last place in the Big 12 last season and worse then MU n year 5 of Wojo's tenure.....I mean Huggins is a hall of Famer. Mike Brey was 14-19 last season.....

Grant may have figured it out or this may be a one year wonder.....this is Grants 12th season as a head coach.....at VCU, Alabama and now Dayton.......how many top 50 Ken Pom teams has he had before this season which is still,yet to be determined?

Answer 1..... in 2012.

Wojo has 2 in 5 seasons.




Cheeks

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 27, 2019, 09:28:52 PM
Not totally true.  Brought in two transfers - Rodney Chatman and Ibi Watson.  Also their top guy Obi Toppin was Grant's recruit.

Maybe we can do better than Grant should we re-enter the market for a head coach. That aside it will be yet another indictment of Wojo if Dayton finishes ahead of us in KenPom/NCAA tournament in year 3 of his tenure.  Bad enough that Travis Steele at Xavier and LaVell Jordan at Butler are seemingly outperforming Wojo in years two and three of their tenures, respectively.

Dayton went to OT against Kansas tonight.  I shudder to think how we'd stack up against Kansas at present.

Hmmm....I've heard this take before from a previous poster...
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: jonny09 on November 27, 2019, 08:58:46 PM
Go and look at the rankings of Dayton's players.  Chalk full of zero, two, and three star recruits.  Begs the question.  How are they playing so well?  I'll wait for answers.

Go and look at the rankings of Duke's players vs Steven F Austin...begs the question...

I'll wait for answers.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire


rocky_warrior

Quote from: Cheeks on November 27, 2019, 10:06:41 PM
Hmmm....I've heard this take before from a previous poster...

Ah yes, was surprised some people hadn't been back - until I fixed registration.

Its DJOver

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 27, 2019, 11:42:22 PM
Ah yes, was surprised some people hadn't been back - until I fixed registration.

Confirmation that elonerslapper is a thing?
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Cheeks

#164
Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2019, 08:51:20 PM
Every main contributor to Dayton committed before Grant was the head coach.

Obi was a Grant recruit, or at least signed with Grant.  Same with Crutcher, another pretty good player.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

jesmu84

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 27, 2019, 11:42:22 PM
Ah yes, was surprised some people hadn't been back - until I fixed registration.

Can you un-fix it?

dgies9156

Quote from: PTM on November 27, 2019, 09:14:06 PM
Dayton is a magical place, the UD Arena brings out the best in young men.

I agree with this analysis.

I mean, where would any young man rather play, UD Arena or Cameron Indoor? UD Arena or Madison Square Garden?

🏀

Quote from: dgies9156 on November 28, 2019, 06:37:35 AM
I agree with this analysis.

I mean, where would any young man rather play, UD Arena or Cameron Indoor? UD Arena or Madison Square Garden?


It depends on the man. 5-star burger boys need not to apply, they can keep the MSG and Cameron Indoor. They cannot thrive in Dayton, this is a city of blue-collar, greasy hands and 1992 Chevrolet Cavalier.

The Sultan

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 27, 2019, 09:28:52 PM
Not totally true.  Brought in two transfers - Rodney Chatman and Ibi Watson.  Also their top guy Obi Toppin was Grant's recruit.

Maybe we can do better than Grant should we re-enter the market for a head coach. That aside it will be yet another indictment of Wojo if Dayton finishes ahead of us in KenPom/NCAA tournament in year 3 of his tenure.  Bad enough that Travis Steele at Xavier and LaVell Jordan at Butler are seemingly outperforming Wojo in years two and three of their tenures, respectively.

Dayton went to OT against Kansas tonight.  I shudder to think how we'd stack up against Kansas at present.


In Wojo's year 3, Marquette finished the year #32 in KenPom.

Right now Dayton is #25.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

IrwinFletcher

Anyone who saw how Dayton defended the last second in regulation vs Kansas would not want Grant as our Head Coach.  Basically had 5 guys standing doing nothing when everyone could see what the play was.  KU got a decent look that almost went in.

jonny09

Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2019, 09:12:24 PM
Playing so well through 6 games of the season. Those 2 and 3 star recruits that are playing so well haven't made the Tournament the last 2 years.

And Markus won't even get a chance in his final year to win a tourney game.   

wadesworld

Quote from: jonny09 on November 28, 2019, 12:21:59 PM
And Markus won't even get a chance in his final year to win a tourney game.

So it has been said. Cancel the season everyone. No need to see it play out. We played a couple bad games in November.

MuMark

Quote from: jonny09 on November 28, 2019, 12:21:59 PM
And Markus won't even get a chance in his final year to win a tourney game.

Kind of like Grant had a future NBA player(Jamychal Green) for 3 years at Alabama and only made 1 NCAA Tourament and didn't win a game? Also had Trevor Releford on that team.

Mr. Nielsen

It' early. Iowa leads #12 Texas Tech by 7 on FS1.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Jay Bee

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on November 28, 2019, 07:31:48 PM
It' early. Iowa leads #12 Texas Tech by 7 on FS1.

Look for Hawkeye Elvis and his clan on the sidelines.
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