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The Sultan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 19, 2020, 10:08:04 PM
I need to check the years, but does this mean Big East teams will have a challenge with the B1G, B12, and P12, plus holiday tournament games, plus natural rivalry games (MU vs. UW, Nova vs. Philly 5, Butler in Crossroads Classic, etc), plus a 20 game conference season that limits the number of non-conference games? All in the same season? Damn, there are no off nights if you're in the Big East.


I wonder if its just easier for conferences to do this rather than seek out a series of home and home games. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GooooMarquette

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 19, 2020, 04:05:00 PM

Not sure if it has been mentioned but for scheduling heard Olympic Sports will probably be divided within the Big East to East and West. West will be Marquette, XU, DP, BU and CU. For scheduling, games and travel reasons. Not sure if that translates if at all to other sports.



What other sports? For college sports purposes, I have always thought that "Olympic Sports" was just shorthand for all sports other than basketball and football...which in the BE context would mean all sports other than basketball. So are you saying that the East/West divide would be for everything except men's and women's hoops?

#UnleashSean

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 20, 2020, 10:14:06 AM

What other sports? For college sports purposes, I have always thought that "Olympic Sports" was just shorthand for all sports other than basketball and football...which in the BE context would mean all sports other than basketball. So are you saying that the East/West divide would be for everything except men's and women's hoops?

I think olympic sports is used for sports that are non revenue. IE track and field, wrestling, etc.

Sports like volleyball, ice hockey, lacrosse aren't considered.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: #UnleashJayce on May 20, 2020, 01:40:47 PM
I think olympic sports is used for sports that are non revenue. IE track and field, wrestling, etc.

Sports like volleyball, ice hockey, lacrosse aren't considered.

Lax isn't an Olympic sport anyways though.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!


Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 20, 2020, 01:43:55 PM
Lax isn't an Olympic sport anyways though.
Apparently, not since 1908. Demonstration sport last in 1948.

SaveOD238

Quote from: MUDPT on May 20, 2020, 03:27:51 PM
Charleston in 2021...

https://mobile.twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1263200755885932546

Unless they add another high major team to this mix, Marquette and West Virginia are likely to be the favorites here.  There's no SEC or Pac 12 squads in the current lineup, so maybe one or more could be added.

MarquetteMike1977

Sources: The Big East is expected to play its December conference games in the middle part of the month before Christmas.
Per
Jon Rothstein

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 21, 2020, 02:17:31 PM
Sources: The Big East is expected to play its December conference games in the middle part of the month before Christmas.
Per
Jon Rothstein

Really dont like, or understand the benefit, of this set up.
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dad's couch

Makes sense with 2 more games which is another week. Usually open New Year's Day. A week earlier makes it Christmas so assume the week before that.

brewcity77

#186
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 21, 2020, 03:26:07 PM
Really dont like, or understand the benefit, of this set up.

It's just the math of things. Since the reformation of the Big East, we've completed our 11th non-conference game anywhere from December 17th and 22nd. I would guess we will probably play 9 non-con games, have two conference games once everyone completes finals, then have our last two non-con games in the interim. If I were to guess, I'd say probably something like...

Game 1: November 10 (Lehigh?)
Game 2: November 13-15 (Wisconsin?)
Game 3: November 17-18 (Gavitt?)
Game 4: November 21 (Rhode Island)
Game 5: November 22 (Minnesota/UCF)
Game 6: November 28-29 (Albany?)
Game 7: December 1 (Oklahoma State)
Game 8: December 12 (UCLA)
Game 9: December 14-15
Game 10: December 18 (Big East)
Game 11: December 20 (Big East)
Game 12: December 27
Game 13: December 29-30
Game 14: January 2 (Full start of Big East play)

The Sultan

Quote from: dad's couch on May 21, 2020, 03:27:51 PM
Makes sense with 2 more games which is another week. Usually open New Year's Day. A week earlier makes it Christmas so assume the week before that.


The alternative is you shove two additional games in after Christmas.  That's not really workable anyway.  This takes the place of two buy games, so you schedule them when you schedule the buy games.
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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 21, 2020, 03:51:44 PM
It's just the math of things. Since the reformation of the Big East, we've completed our 11th non-conference game anywhere from December 17th and 22nd. I would guess we will probably play 9 non-con games, have two conference games once everyone completes finals, then have our last two non-con games in the interim. If I were to guess, I'd say probably something like...

Game 1: November 10 (Lehigh?)
Game 2: November 13-15 (Wisconsin?)
Game 3: November 17-18 (Gavitt?)
Game 4: November 21 (Rhode Island)
Game 5: November 22 (Minnesota/UCF)
Game 6: November 28-29 (Albany?)
Game 7: December 1-2
Game 8: December 12 (UCLA)
Game 9: December 14-15
Game 10: December 18 (Big East)
Game 11: December 20 (Big East)
Game 12: December 27
Game 13: December 29-30
Game 14: January 2 (Full start of Big East play)

Go back to Wisconsin in December.

brewcity77

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 21, 2020, 03:55:44 PM
Go back to Wisconsin in December.

It seems unlikely this year. The UCLA date has already been announced and they usually give a bigger gap over finals (December 7-11 this year) so I don't think we'll see a Saturday game on December 5. The Big East will likely start over the 18th-20th weekend (possibly Big 10 as well) and they won't put it on Christmas weekend.

I think the early November date is probably here to stay, a casualty of 20-game conference schedules.

The Lens

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 21, 2020, 03:59:53 PM
It seems unlikely this year. The UCLA date has already been announced and they usually give a bigger gap over finals (December 7-11 this year) so I don't think we'll see a Saturday game on December 5. The Big East will likely start over the 18th-20th weekend (possibly Big 10 as well) and they won't put it on Christmas weekend.

I think the early November date is probably here to stay, a casualty of 20-game conference schedules.

Would be very hard but if you could pull off playing in February on matching buy weeks (like MU / Wake Forest in 2003), it would be electric.  It may actually be doable given the Fox relationship with both conferences.  The question becomes does Fox find it more appealing than UW-MSU or MU-Nova.
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ChuckyChip

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 21, 2020, 03:51:44 PM
It's just the math of things. Since the reformation of the Big East, we've completed our 11th non-conference game anywhere from December 17th and 22nd. I would guess we will probably play 9 non-con games, have two conference games once everyone completes finals, then have our last two non-con games in the interim. If I were to guess, I'd say probably something like...

Game 1: November 10 (Lehigh?)
Game 2: November 13-15 (Wisconsin?)
Game 3: November 17-18 (Gavitt?)
Game 4: November 21 (Rhode Island)
Game 5: November 22 (Minnesota/UCF)
Game 6: November 28-29 (Albany?)
Game 7: December 1-2
Game 8: December 12 (UCLA)
Game 9: December 14-15
Game 10: December 18 (Big East)
Game 11: December 20 (Big East)
Game 12: December 27
Game 13: December 29-30
Game 14: January 2 (Full start of Big East play)

Isn't Oklahoma St. on 12/1?

brewcity77

#192
Quote from: ChuckyChip on May 21, 2020, 04:39:45 PM
Isn't Oklahoma St. on 12/1?

That's right, I forgot they had a set date. I'll fix that.

EDIT: If I'm correct, that's a brutal first 11 games. Presumably three high-major home games, three high-major road games, two neutral site games, and just three relative gimmes.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 21, 2020, 04:43:00 PM
That's right, I forgot they had a set date. I'll fix that.

EDIT: If I'm correct, that's a brutal first 11 games. Presumably three high-major home games, three high-major road games, two neutral site games, and just three relative gimmes.

Yeah this isn't exactly the slate you'd want after graduating two multi year starters and a big 1yr role player
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

muguru

How about moving one of the non conf games in between the BE games during one of the normal bye weeks?? I absolutely HATE the UW game being in November now. Don't like playing them that early at all. Takes a lot of the juice out of it if you ask me.
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brewcity77

Quote from: muguru on May 21, 2020, 05:51:11 PM
How about moving one of the non conf games in between the BE games during one of the normal bye weeks?? I absolutely HATE the UW game being in November now. Don't like playing them that early at all. Takes a lot of the juice out of it if you ask me.

Mike Broeker indicated on Twitter that Marquette will finish all their non-con games before the end of the year, or maybe more accurately, in the first two months of the season.

MU Fan in Connecticut

#196
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 21, 2020, 03:59:53 PM
It seems unlikely this year. The UCLA date has already been announced and they usually give a bigger gap over finals (December 7-11 this year) so I don't think we'll see a Saturday game on December 5. The Big East will likely start over the 18th-20th weekend (possibly Big 10 as well) and they won't put it on Christmas weekend.

I think the early November date is probably here to stay, a casualty of 20-game conference schedules.

Aren't finals this season the week of and before Thanksgiving?

brewcity77

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 21, 2020, 06:41:28 PM
Afternooyn finals this season the week of and before Thanksgiving?

Good point, they didn't update on the website I was looking at. Will be interesting to see if they try to cram them in over 3 days. Definitely need to adjust for that.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: muguru on May 21, 2020, 05:51:11 PM
How about moving one of the non conf games in between the BE games during one of the normal bye weeks?? I absolutely HATE the UW game being in November now. Don't like playing them that early at all. Takes a lot of the juice out of it if you ask me.
I agree. I went to the game in Madison this year. Got lost in the mix on that Sunday.
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-Bill Walton

muguru

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on May 21, 2020, 07:43:38 PM
I agree. I went to the game in Madison this year. Got lost in the mix on that Sunday.

It's just too early..I always like MU having some games under their belt first before I start worrying about that game.
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We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

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