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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #225 on: June 05, 2020, 07:24:17 AM »
Tom Izzo never had a rebuild year.


First of all, that isn't true.

Second, if we have to go to the top echelons of college basketball to come up with examples of teams and coaches whose rebuild would make other schools happy, then what is the point?

Marquette isn't there.  Everyone knows this.  I want to get there.  We likely won't.  Bitching and moaning in every f*cking topic isn't going to change anything.
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #226 on: June 05, 2020, 07:50:13 AM »
Tom Izzo never had a rebuild year.

Yes he has.  His last one was in 2017
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #227 on: June 05, 2020, 08:03:05 AM »
Yes he has.  His last one was in 2017
Was not a rebuilding year. Izzo elected to start the season off playing  very tough opponents. They made the NCAA tournament and won a game.

If that is a rebuild please sign MU up for one soon.
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #228 on: June 05, 2020, 08:56:46 AM »
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #229 on: June 05, 2020, 09:35:29 AM »
Was not a rebuilding year. Izzo elected to start the season off playing  very tough opponents. They made the NCAA tournament and won a game.

It was the definition of a rebuilding year. They lost stud seniors Denzel Valentine, Bryn Forbes, and Matt Costello to graduation as well as the expected defection of Deyonta Davis to the draft (where he went at the end of the first round). They also lost bench players to transfer in Javon Bess (SLU) and Marvin Clark Jr (SJU). That's a lot of talent they needed to replace (or even rebuild you might say). Izzo brought in a lot of talented freshmen but they fell from a 2 seed in 2016 to a 9 seed in 2017. Another year of development for those talented freshmen and all of the sudden Michigan State shoots back to a 3 seed the following season and a 2 seed the season after that. It's almost like Izzo took a year to rebuild and then followed it up with a series of up years.

Every school (except maybe 2*) has rebuild years. All I mean by that is that it is a year where they lose a lot from the previous season's roster and don't have results that match their recent levels of success. A rebuild is going to look different for different programs. For a program like Duke, a rebuild year is going to result in a 4 seed. For a program like Marquette, it could mean the NIT. The goal is to keep building your program so every cycle is better than the last one. Eventually you can get to a level where rebuild years mean you are still making the NCAAs, or even single digit seeds in the NCAAs.

A rebuild year for a program like Michigan State looks different than a rebuild year for a program like Marquette (or Cincinnati, or Illinois, or NC State, or LSU.....etc). Michigan State is expected to get a top 4 seed every season. When they get a 9 seed, that is disappointing by their standards. But it happens every few years because that's how college basketball works. It's nearly impossible to balance the classes perfectly.

If that is a rebuild please sign MU up for one soon.

I hope we get to that level soon too. We may get to see it this season if Carton is eligible. Wojo's second cycle was better than his first, but it wasn't as good as I expected. I hope he can course correct this next go around.
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #230 on: June 05, 2020, 12:57:29 PM »
Per Mark Schlabach ESPN
The NCAA Committee on Infractions on Friday placed Oklahoma State's men's basketball program on three years of probation and banned the Cowboys from playing in postseason tournaments next season.

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #231 on: June 05, 2020, 01:48:50 PM »
Per Mark Schlabach ESPN
The NCAA Committee on Infractions on Friday placed Oklahoma State's men's basketball program on three years of probation and banned the Cowboys from playing in postseason tournaments next season.

Be interesting to see if Cade Cunningham stays with that in place.
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #232 on: June 05, 2020, 03:49:09 PM »
Supposedly the G-League offered Cunningham 500k to go with them. Will be interesting if they reach out and he reconsiders. His brother still is on the coaching staff, so this could be quite telling.

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #233 on: June 05, 2020, 05:17:11 PM »
Well, it is the 2nd best professional basketball league in the world!

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #234 on: June 05, 2020, 10:21:34 PM »
Novas was 2011-13 two crappy seeds one no postseason. People calling for Jay's job.

WI closest was probably the half year going they were awful when Bo retired mid season.

Zags prior to their first elite 8

Duke, I believe when Wojo was there and K had surgery?

Kansas no idea.

But seeing as two of those programs are Obviously paying and one only has to beat one occasionally two good but not great team every year they aren't great comps.
Kansas was this year, since the year before they did not win the Big 12 for the first time in something like 20 years. We do not necessarily recognize rebuild years for the elite, because their sucky year is usually better than our good years.

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #235 on: June 06, 2020, 01:57:10 AM »
Be interesting to see if Cade Cunningham stays with that in place.
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #236 on: June 06, 2020, 05:50:37 AM »
I read an article about UW’s non conference schedule. They are also hoping for a December MU game. Whatever happens with the Fiserv, it sounds like the NBA is hoping to come back around Christmas, making more dates available early in the season.

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #237 on: June 06, 2020, 04:19:36 PM »
I read an article about UW’s non conference schedule. They are also hoping for a December MU game. Whatever happens with the Fiserv, it sounds like the NBA is hoping to come back around Christmas, making more dates available early in the season.

With Marquette moving finals up to thanksgiving week. It means scheduling wise Marquette would have entire December Open for scheduling instead of the traditional week off.

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #238 on: June 07, 2020, 09:38:33 PM »
Oklahoma State at Oklahoma From Feb 1, 2020 On ESPNU 303 until 11:00 tonight
Announcers compared Oklahoma’s Manek to Marquette’s Steve Novak
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #239 on: June 07, 2020, 10:50:48 PM »
Oklahoma State at Oklahoma From Feb 1, 2020 On ESPNU 303 until 11:00 tonight
Announcers compared Oklahoma’s Manek to Marquette’s Steve Novak

Thanks for the 2020 schedule update
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #240 on: June 08, 2020, 04:26:00 PM »
Not sure if it has been mentioned but for scheduling heard Olympic Sports will probably be divided within the Big East to East and West. West will be Marquette, XU, DP, BU and CU. For scheduling, games and travel reasons. Not sure if that translates if at all to other sports.

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Soccer and volleyball will be divided into East and Midwest Divisions

6/8/2020 2:00:00 PM

Geographic divisions for men's soccer, women's soccer and volleyball are:  Georgetown, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova and returning member Connecticut in the East Division;  and Butler, Creighton, DePaul, Marquette and Xavier in the Midwest Division


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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #241 on: June 09, 2020, 08:35:04 AM »
BIG EAST Fall Sports Scheduling Changes Announced

Soccer and volleyball will be divided into East and Midwest Divisions

6/8/2020 2:00:00 PM

Geographic divisions for men's soccer, women's soccer and volleyball are:  Georgetown, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova and returning member Connecticut in the East Division;  and Butler, Creighton, DePaul, Marquette and Xavier in the Midwest Division

I assume this is to limit travel?

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #242 on: June 09, 2020, 11:21:54 AM »
UW@MU Sat Dec 5th...back in December where it belongs!

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ETA: Just realized though, students won't be on campus for it.
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #243 on: June 09, 2020, 11:41:38 AM »
BIG EAST Fall Sports Scheduling Changes Announced

Soccer and volleyball will be divided into East and Midwest Divisions

6/8/2020 2:00:00 PM

Geographic divisions for men's soccer, women's soccer and volleyball are:  Georgetown, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova and returning member Connecticut in the East Division;  and Butler, Creighton, DePaul, Marquette and Xavier in the Midwest Division

Soccer to play everyone in their division twice, VB four times.
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #244 on: June 09, 2020, 12:35:55 PM »
Soccer to play everyone in their division twice, VB four times.
Will that mean that Midwest will play two teams 3 times in soccer since divisions are unbalanced? And I think VB would have to play everyone 5 times in Midwest to play same number of games.

Or do some of the East schools not sponsor certain sports?

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #245 on: June 09, 2020, 03:58:28 PM »
I assume this is to limit travel?

Yes heard the main reason is travel

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #246 on: June 09, 2020, 05:05:19 PM »
Marquette's Facebook pointed out that MU is undefeated ALL-TIME vs. Wisconsin at the Fiserv.  What a blow to the state's flagship University that they can never win in this tax payer funded arena. 
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« Reply #247 on: June 10, 2020, 12:01:14 PM »
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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #248 on: June 10, 2020, 03:35:41 PM »
Per Tweet Jeff Goodman @ Goodman Hoops
Former Cal Baptist guard Ferron Flavors, who committed to Oklahoma State earlier this summer as a grad transfer, told me he'll stick with his commitment despite the 1-year postseason ban the NCAA hit the program with Friday. Flavors averaged 13.5 ppg.

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Re: 2020 Schedule news
« Reply #249 on: June 11, 2020, 01:17:23 AM »
Entire non conf schedule out tomm morning

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