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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #325 on: November 25, 2019, 02:07:25 PM »
That's fine, and it factors in margin of victory, etc...which RPI didn't.  Ken will say his rankings "improve" with more data (i.e. games).  In November, it is too early to say much about the rankings at this point IMO.   A few examples, Purdue is ranked 10th in KenPom at the moment. I don't think they stay in the top 25 by year's end.  Butler is 22nd, I don't think they stay in the top 25 either.

Why year’s end? What about in a month? Lol
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #326 on: November 25, 2019, 09:54:11 PM »
That's fine, and it factors in margin of victory, etc...which RPI didn't.  Ken will say his rankings "improve" with more data (i.e. games).  In November, it is too early to say much about the rankings at this point IMO.   A few examples, Purdue is ranked 10th in KenPom at the moment. I don't think they stay in the top 25 by year's end.  Butler is 22nd, I don't think they stay in the top 25 either.

After smoking Missouri in Missouri tonight, Butler is 18th.  There is no one in the Big East playing better

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #327 on: November 25, 2019, 09:55:54 PM »
Butler solid win over Missouri . Goes in the book as a neutral game , but since tournament is in Kansas City effectively a home game for Mizzou.

Butler 6-0 . Derrick Smits still out with injury. Bryce Nze and Bryce Golden continuing to show strength inside .

Butler Early performance helpful to the leagues cause
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #328 on: November 26, 2019, 05:51:09 AM »
Butler v Mizzou was a Neutral site tourney game at Sprint Center in KC, early tip. Part of a double dip. Oklahoma was blown out by 7-0 Stanford in the 2nd game. Stanford scored the first 17 points of the game. Winners and losers play each other tonight. Each year, The Sprint Center in KC will host games/events for KU, Mizzou, K-State, and sometimes other regional teams.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #329 on: November 26, 2019, 09:44:52 AM »
Big East unbeaten teams in action tonight

Butler vs Stanford in KC

DePaul hosting high scoring Central Michigan

Rooting for a good night for the Big East
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« Reply #330 on: November 26, 2019, 10:00:47 AM »
Big East unbeaten teams in action tonight

Butler vs Stanford in KC

DePaul hosting high scoring Central Michigan

Rooting for a good night for the Big East

If Depaul makes it through this week undefeated I'm calling it that they end up ranked. That'd be three power conference teams they've beaten even if there's no real "Big" names on there.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #331 on: November 26, 2019, 10:09:05 AM »
Anyone know of the resource that lists record by each conference against the other conferences?  I have seen it in previous season but cannot seem to locate this year.

thanks!
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« Reply #332 on: November 26, 2019, 10:10:00 AM »
Anyone know of the resource that lists record by each conference against the other conferences?  I have seen it in previous season but cannot seem to locate this year.

thanks!

Free rpi used to have it but not sure if it's still live
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« Reply #333 on: November 26, 2019, 11:02:27 AM »
If Depaul makes it through this week undefeated I'm calling it that they end up ranked. That'd be three power conference teams they've beaten even if there's no real "Big" names on there.

DePaul isn't even getting votes in the AP and only got one vote in the Coaches Poll. They aren't going to jump from that to top 25 in one week.
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« Reply #334 on: November 26, 2019, 11:05:23 AM »
DePaul isn't even getting votes in the AP and only got one vote in the Coaches Poll. They aren't going to jump from that to top 25 in one week.

Don't they play Texas tech and buffalo this week? I'd say those wins would make them jump quite a few teams
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« Reply #335 on: November 26, 2019, 11:07:26 AM »
Don't they play Texas tech and buffalo this week? I'd say those wins would make them jump quite a few teams

They play Central Michigan and Minnesota this week.  That wouldn't be enough IMO.  They play Tech and Buff next week.

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« Reply #336 on: November 26, 2019, 11:18:35 AM »
They play Central Michigan and Minnesota this week.  That wouldn't be enough IMO.  They play Tech and Buff next week.

I should really look at a calendar one of these days.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #337 on: November 26, 2019, 12:01:41 PM »
I should really look at a calendar one of these days.

if DePaul goes 3-1 over the next four they'll get more votes but they're still DePaul, an insignificant program not on the radar of the national media. It will take more than that to get them ranked.
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« Reply #338 on: November 26, 2019, 12:25:26 PM »
DePaul was a legit team last year and the line up this year is even better. 

They have some competitive games coming up. Realistic goal to win 10 games non conference and hopefully build up some fan interest for conference play .


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« Reply #339 on: November 26, 2019, 12:34:06 PM »
DePaul was a legit team last year and the line up this year is even better. 

They have some competitive games coming up. Realistic goal to win 10 games non conference and hopefully build up some fan interest for conference play .

If legit means 'not good' then yes. They were a horrendous team on defense and outside of Reed, their offense benefited from three senior - quite an experienced team.

This year they're 'OK'. Well traveled Charlie Moore helps a ton; Paul Reed is legit; Weems has played well. 23-year old JCL - another transfer - helps and could push them up. I like a couple of other pieces (like Butz nh)... after that.. not much to speak of. That might be enough to flirt with a 8 or 9 conf wins.

Gage does not do it for me. Can ancient sophomore Hall step up? Jacobs? meh

An OK team, and they can certainly beat out a weak team like Georgetown.. but, they'll need more guys stepping up if they're going to make a big move up
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #340 on: November 26, 2019, 07:26:50 PM »
5-1 Central Michigan up on DePaul 35-20 on FS1.
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« Reply #341 on: November 26, 2019, 07:27:37 PM »
5-1 Central Michigan up on DePaul 35-20 on FS1.

DePaul isn’t going to be ranked anytime soon.
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« Reply #342 on: November 26, 2019, 07:39:09 PM »
5-1 Central Michigan up on DePaul 35-20 on FS1.

Some 5-1 records are different then others......they have played 1 high major......lost to Minnesota by 25

Look good tonight though

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #343 on: November 26, 2019, 07:43:15 PM »
After smoking Missouri in Missouri tonight, Butler is 18th.  There is no one in the Big East playing better

Is Missouri supposed to be good this year? 
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« Reply #344 on: November 26, 2019, 07:56:48 PM »
Some 5-1 records are different then others......they have played 1 high major......lost to Minnesota by 25

Look good tonight though

Only 2 wins are against D-1 teams, and one against one of the worst in D-1 (352 of 353 in Kenpom) in MVSU. DePaul is a fraud.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #345 on: November 26, 2019, 07:57:06 PM »
C. Michigan looks like a very talented group putting it to DePaul at the half.

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« Reply #346 on: November 26, 2019, 08:06:55 PM »
Crown ‘EM

I watched Central Mich is person last week (thanks, J5, I owe you). They missed a bunch of layups & Minn shot lights out. The game was odd & Central Mich isn’t terrible.

But with DePaul just being OK, this can happen. Plenty of time to turn it around... both teams like to run
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« Reply #347 on: November 26, 2019, 08:29:53 PM »
Yeah it turned around......Depaul has taken the lead with 11 minutes to go.

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« Reply #348 on: November 26, 2019, 08:39:43 PM »
Yeah it turned around......Depaul has taken the lead with 11 minutes to go.

Beating DePaul would definitely be a quality win. They have some real talent this year.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #349 on: November 26, 2019, 09:00:58 PM »
DePaul wins by 13. 56 point second half
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