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MU82

#300
November 23, 2019, 10:30:30 PM
X looks like a very, very tough team. Several grown men on that team.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Lennys Tap

#301
November 23, 2019, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 23, 2019, 10:30:30 PM
X looks like a very, very tough team. Several grown men on that team.

Been their m.o. for quite some time.

MU82

#302
November 23, 2019, 11:03:25 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 23, 2019, 10:56:55 PM
Been their m.o. for quite some time.

They weren't quite skilled enough or healthy enough grown men last season. They look like they're back to being the real deal.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Lennys Tap

#303
November 23, 2019, 11:12:41 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 23, 2019, 11:03:25 PM
They weren't quite skilled enough or healthy enough grown men last season. They look like they're back to being the real deal.

True. My point was that toughness has been the calling card of a lot of good Xavier teams over the past 20 years or so.

Herman Cain

#304
November 24, 2019, 01:48:28 PM
Creighton down by 5 at half to North Florida
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

#305
November 24, 2019, 02:09:37 PM
Creighton fought their way back. Up 44-41 with 16:00 left second.

Classic Creighton running and threes. Enjoyable to style of play to watch.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

#306
November 24, 2019, 02:21:40 PM
Creighton on one of their three point rampages. Now up by 12  with 18 left.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

shoothoops

#307
November 24, 2019, 02:38:13 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 23, 2019, 11:03:25 PM
They weren't quite skilled enough or healthy enough grown men last season. They look like they're back to being the real deal.

They are an experienced, physical, ready to play at tip off, long team.

Herman Cain

#308
November 24, 2019, 02:58:27 PM
Creighton Won 76-67. They are down a few men right now. When Mintz comes back from injury and Denzel Mahoney is eligible, they should have some more depth.

Mitch Ballock hit the shot for the fans to earn Godfathers Pizza.  8-)
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

#309
November 24, 2019, 03:17:58 PM
The Johnnies up 1 over U Mass 3:51 first
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

#310
November 24, 2019, 03:30:59 PM
U Mass up 1 over the The Johnnies at the half.  Game at Mohegan Sun. Very few fans in attendance.

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

#311
November 24, 2019, 04:41:57 PM
Johnnies win by 15.

Solid coaching job by Mike Anderson
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brewcity77

#312
November 24, 2019, 04:43:24 PM
'Nova/Baylor has been great so far. Currently tied at 38 going to the half, never seen a lead of more than 3 for either team. Tons of lead changes. Fun back-and-forth affair.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

#313
November 24, 2019, 05:18:39 PM
Just turned the game on and saw a couple of nice dimes by Gillespie. I was never impressed by him but maybe this is the year for him.

Mr. Nielsen

#314
November 24, 2019, 05:43:53 PM
Wow, is this Baylor/Villanova an excellent game. I would think Xavier/Florida will be the same.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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brewcity77

#315
November 24, 2019, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on November 24, 2019, 05:43:53 PM
Wow, is this Baylor/Villanova an excellent game. I would think Xavier/Florida will be the same.

This has the feel of a Sweet 16 game. Really good stuff on both ends.

Elonsmusk

#316
November 24, 2019, 05:49:55 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 23, 2019, 11:12:41 PM
True. My point was that toughness has been the calling card of a lot of good Xavier teams over the past 20 years or so.

Xavier does have a good culture.  Just year 2 of Travis Steele and X is rated higher than us in KenPom.  Frustrating.  Butler in Year 3 of Jordan, and they are ranked higher than us too.  Our culture/calling card under Wojo so far has been elite level 3-point shooting.  Not having Rowsey and the Hausers is really going to make life hard on Markus this year.

brewcity77

#317
November 24, 2019, 06:01:59 PM
Looks like 'Nova is going to fall. Interesting stat I heard yesterday...the last 6 NCAA champs and 9 of the last 10 won their exempt tournament.

Herman Cain

#318
November 24, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
Xavier rally in Second Half fell short. Will officially show as a neutral site loss, but it was effectively a home game for Florida. Place was packed with their fans. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

NickelDimer

#319
November 24, 2019, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 23, 2019, 11:12:41 PM
True. My point was that toughness has been the calling card of a lot of good Xavier teams over the past 20 years or so.
That used to be our identity as well
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Cheeks

#320
November 25, 2019, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: NickelDimer on November 24, 2019, 09:49:52 PM
That used to be our identity as well

That was one of our identities....
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

#321
November 25, 2019, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 24, 2019, 05:49:55 PM
Xavier does have a good culture.  Just year 2 of Travis Steele and X is rated higher than us in KenPom.  Frustrating.  Butler in Year 3 of Jordan, and they are ranked higher than us too.  Our culture/calling card under Wojo so far has been elite level 3-point shooting.  Not having Rowsey and the Hausers is really going to make life hard on Markus this year.


Personally, I think it is about a month too early for Ken Pom to mean a whole lot.  Butler has played the 306th strongest schedule.  MU 110th. 

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Jay Bee

#322
November 25, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 12:34:43 PM

Personally, I think it is about a month too early for Ken Pom to mean a whole lot.  Butler has played the 306th strongest schedule.  MU 110th.

The rankings reflect who you've played. It's not a dumb system such as RPI
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Cheeks

#323
November 25, 2019, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 25, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
The rankings reflect who you've played. It's not a dumb system such as RPI

That's fine, and it factors in margin of victory, etc...which RPI didn't.  Ken will say his rankings "improve" with more data (i.e. games).  In November, it is too early to say much about the rankings at this point IMO.   A few examples, Purdue is ranked 10th in KenPom at the moment. I don't think they stay in the top 25 by year's end.  Butler is 22nd, I don't think they stay in the top 25 either. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Silkk the Shaka

#324
November 25, 2019, 01:56:57 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 01:11:20 PM
That's fine, and it factors in margin of victory, etc...which RPI didn't.  Ken will say his rankings "improve" with more data (i.e. games).  In November, it is too early to say much about the rankings at this point IMO.   A few examples, Purdue is ranked 10th in KenPom at the moment. I don't think they stay in the top 25 by year's end.  Butler is 22nd, I don't think they stay in the top 25 either.

Guessing this is a Hoosier board talking point?
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