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The Lens

A big trend in college football is redshirting players after game 4 if your season is going off the rails.

I think we should look to redshirt Markus if we don't sweep Purdue and Davidson.   One thing to consider, he is young for his class and a extra year of development might be good for his game. 
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: The Lens on October 11, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
A big trend in college football is redshirting players after game 4 if your season is going off the rails.

I think we should look to redshirt Markus if we don't sweep Purdue and Davidson.   One thing to consider, he is young for his class and a extra year of development might be good for his game.

I would first check with the ortho doctor to see how much more height there is in his growth plates. He might be 6'7" after a year.


The Lens

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 11, 2019, 10:50:22 AM
I would first check with the ortho doctor to see how much more height there is in his growth plates. He might be 6'7" after a year.

A shoot-first point forward?  SIGN. ME. UP. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: The Lens on October 11, 2019, 10:52:45 AM
A shoot-first point forward?  SIGN. ME. UP.

Of course, though, he would be graduate transfer eligible then and MSU would pick him up.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: The Lens on October 11, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
A big trend in college football is redshirting players after game 4 if your season is going off the rails.

I think we should look to redshirt Markus if we don't sweep Purdue and Davidson.   One thing to consider, he is young for his class and a extra year of development might be good for his game.

From the thousands of stupid post on this site over the years, this one may take the cake.
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thebigjake

Shouldn't that be in teal?

You can't be serious

4everwarriors

Herd hee mae transfer ta MSU or UVA just ta fook wit da old kinfolk, hey?
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GoldenWarrior11

Has anyone actually followed the dumpster fire that it is Houston Cougar Football this year (where the idea of redshirting skilled players to delay them a year came from)?  Absolute disaster.  One of their players went on an epic Twitter rant against their coaching staff for the hypocrisy of preaching commitment and dedication to be successful, only to now start tanking the season in order to preserve everyone's status for next year.  Pretty damning stuff. 

I would be ashamed to be a fan and an alum of a school program that would do that (throw in the towel on an entire season) - especially after they just spend like $4 million annually on a new head coach.  Hilariously, Houston's President also went on record last year that the school will fire coaches for going 8-4.  I wonder what they do to coaches that finish 1-11? 

HUGE NO to redshirting seniors if the team encounters early season losses.  Fight until the end with what you have. 

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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on October 11, 2019, 10:57:40 AM
From the thousands of stupid post on this site over the years, this one may take the cake.

Sandy,
The Teal Train has left the station, bro.

Lighthouse 84

There was a question as to whether Markus would be back for his senior year. Do you honestly and realistically think he'd agree to redshirt his senior season and delay his ultimate goal of M2N?  That's just kooky talk.
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wadesworld

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on October 11, 2019, 10:59:36 AM
Has anyone actually followed the dumpster fire that it is Houston Cougar Football this year (where the idea of redshirting skilled players to delay them a year came from)?  Absolute disaster.  One of their players went on an epic Twitter rant against their coaching staff for the hypocrisy of preaching commitment and dedication to be successful, only to now start tanking the season in order to preserve everyone's status for next year.  Pretty damning stuff. 

I would be ashamed to be a fan and an alum of a school program that would do that (throw in the towel on an entire season) - especially after they just spend like $4 million annually on a new head coach.  Hilariously, Houston's President also went on record last year that the school will fire coaches for going 8-4.  I wonder what they do to coaches that finish 1-11? 

HUGE NO to redshirting seniors if the team encounters early season losses.  Fight until the end with what you have.

In college basketball I wouldn't, unless the star senior actually had an injury and could make a comeback towards the end of the year but the only way to make the NCAA Tournament at that point would be the win a conference tournament.  But in college football when literally a single loss takes you out of contention for an NCAA title unless your school name is Alabama, Clemson, or Ohio State?  Sure, I'd definitely redshirt star players and see them come back the following season, and as a fan I'd be thrilled with that decision.

The Lens

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 11, 2019, 10:55:41 AM
Of course, though, he would be graduate transfer eligible then and MSU would pick him up.

OR WORSE...

Coach K retires, Wojo takes the Duke job and Markus leads Duke to the National Championship.

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GoldenWarrior11

Quote from: wadesworld on October 11, 2019, 11:05:27 AM
In college basketball I wouldn't, unless the star senior actually had an injury and could make a comeback towards the end of the year but the only way to make the NCAA Tournament at that point would be the win a conference tournament.  But in college football when literally a single loss takes you out of contention for an NCAA title unless your school name is Alabama, Clemson, or Ohio State?  Sure, I'd definitely redshirt star players and see them come back the following season, and as a fan I'd be thrilled with that decision.

I'd argue that so much more could go wrong than go right in that scenario.

Other schools can easily begin to use that as a negative recruiting tool "If you lose a game, you will be benched for an entire year, delaying opportunity to go to the pros, increasing odds of players potentially getting injured, etc."  Additionally, what's to stop a redshirted player from just transferring to become immediately eligible at another school?  At a place like Houston, which is a glorifed G5 program, they aren't playing for a CFP spot annually.  Their ceiling is a NY6 bid, and in a league where SMU is now up, Memphis remains up and UCF continues to recruit Florida well, schools like Houston can't afford to "take a year off" in hopes it will be better next year - especially since Houston ponied up big money to hire Hologorsen from WVU.  Not a good look at all. 

ZiggysFryBoy

Imagine if Marcus does take the shirt.  Then we miss the NCAA's, amd wojo is canned. 

Having a super senior like Marcus would be a very attractive piece to draw in a new coach.

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dgies9156

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 11, 2019, 11:20:04 AM
Choo, choo.  Lens is day drinking in the bar car.



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Bet Sam would really regret his decision, huh?

The Lens

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 11, 2019, 11:25:28 AM
Imagine if Marcus does take the shirt.  Then we miss the NCAA's, amd wojo is canned. 

Having a super senior like Marcus would be a very attractive piece to draw in a new coach.

Forget Wojo replacing K

K REPLACES WOJO!
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Goose

Sandy may have the post that takes the cake. Explains a great deal about him.

Jay Bee

Quote from: The Lens on October 11, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
A big trend in college football is redshirting players after game 4 if your season is going off the rails.

I think we should look to redshirt Markus if we don't sweep Purdue and Davidson.   One thing to consider, he is young for his class and a extra year of development might be good for his game.

College football has diff redshirt rules. In CBB, if you play a second of any game, you cannot redshirt.
The portal is NOT closed.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 11, 2019, 12:29:14 PM
College football has diff redshirt rules. In CBB, if you play a second of any game, you cannot redshirt.

Well, apparently we'd be planning -- in advance -- Markus's season-ending injury that would allow him to come back for a fifth year.   ::)
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 11, 2019, 12:29:14 PM
College football has diff redshirt rules. In CBB, if you play a second of any game, you cannot redshirt.

I'm sure that Lens was referring to losses in a controlled scrimmage with another school and an exhibition assuring that MU was eliminated from the NCAA Tourney prior to the start of the season.
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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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