Wojo's Threshold

[mu03eng]

I think the offense will struggle early as everyone adjusts to a new system with real competition but I'm generally optimistic about the approach for long term results this season. Additionally the defense with be further improved which will keep them in games that the offense doesn't. I think Wojo is improving as a coach, he's not yet where he needs to be but one thing I've noticed over the last 5 years is he doesn't make the same mistake twice and he adapts. He doesn't have all the answers and he was sheltered by the Duke bubble/Coach K for a long time so he has to learn some things the hard way but I do see him learning. We'll see how this year turns out as it is the pivotal year for him IMO and I'm expecting a top 2 Big East finish and at least one NCAA tournament win.

[bilsu]

I think Wojo had to learn how to coach players who were not McDonald All-Americans.

[Goose]

IMO, I am much more interested in seeing how this recruiting class unfolds than any on court success for this season. If Wojo can show he can put together a big time recruiting class, it trumps everything else to me.
At this time I am cautiously optimistic and watching closely. If it ends up being a decent class, I would not be too optimistic moving forward. Have mentioned numerous times I like Wojo chasing big time guys and hope he delivers the goods. If does not happen this year, it might never happen for him.

[Dr. Blackheart]

IMO, I am much more interested in seeing how this recruiting class unfolds than any on court success for this season. If Wojo can show he can put together a big time recruiting class, it trumps everything else to me.
At this time I am cautiously optimistic and watching closely. If it ends up being a decent class, I would not be too optimistic moving forward. Have mentioned numerous times I like Wojo chasing big time guys and hope he delivers the goods. If does not happen this year, it might never happen for him.

Typo?

[Goose]

Dr. B

Meant to say only a decent, not great class.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Dr. B

Meant to say only a decent, not great class.

So if he adds Garcia and Davis, is the class decent or great in your definition?

[Goose]

Dr. B

That would be big time class.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Dr. B

That would be big time class.

Thanks. Everyone's definition is different. Plenty of playing time to sell. November is a big month for MUBB on and off the court. I too think that would be a monster class.

[Boone]

Totally agree w/Goose. If we get Davis, et al I'll likely forgive any on-court sins this season

[Herman Cain]

IMO, I am much more interested in seeing how this recruiting class unfolds than any on court success for this season. If Wojo can show he can put together a big time recruiting class, it trumps everything else to me.
At this time I am cautiously optimistic and watching closely. If it ends up being a decent class, I would not be too optimistic moving forward. Have mentioned numerous times I like Wojo chasing big time guys and hope he delivers the goods. If does not happen this year, it might never happen for him.

Totally agree w/Goose. If we get Davis, et al I'll likely forgive any on-court sins this season

RJ Davis has the type of talent that can totally alter the trajectory of Wojo's coaching career at MU. Lets keep thinking good thoughts.

[Shooter McGavin]

That's what the most hopeful of Wojo supporters have been saying regarding this class since before last season ended.  The 2020 recruiting class is the defining moment in the Wojo regime.   It was and is worth waiting into the sixth year to see it.  Firing him after last year, even after Hauser gate, was not seeing the forest through the trees. 

Glad to see people coming around on the thought process.  Of course, success on the court this year in combination with a great class helps immensely.  Opens up the floodgates to future success.  Rooting hard for both.

[ducs]

I wish I was as optimistic as you.  I believe this team to be more in the 20-25 region and I don't expect us to even sniff at the top 10.  An NCAA win is the minimum for me.  If we make the tourney and win a game there, that will be proof to me that Wojo has evolved as a coach to a significant degree.  It seems to me the Big East will be better than last season and that we have a bit less talent than last season.  I do hope the rookies and red shirts can take up the slack and prove me wrong.
Go Warriors!

This is how I feel

[Lennys Tap]

Agree with Goose and Boone. If Wojo lands Davis and Garcia I'd consider this a "home run" class. I would want Wojo around at least through 21-22 to see how he develops it. If he misses on both, though, this season (for me, anyway) becomes do or die.

[Galway Eagle]

Agree with Goose and Boone. If Wojo lands Davis and Garcia I'd consider this a "home run" class. I would want Wojo around at least through 21-22 to see how he develops it. If he misses on both, though, this season (for me, anyway) becomes do or die.

What's the ruling if no Dawson but yes RJ ?

[Lennys Tap]

What's the ruling if no Dawson but yes RJ ?

For me that gives Wojo both this year and next to prove his case but not automatically year 3.

[shoothoops]

It's all about on court performance. Recruiting can be interesting and even fun, but results are results regardless of recruiting rankings. (Good, bad, or average)

[Lennys Tap]

It's all about on court performance. Recruiting can be interesting and even fun, but results are results regardless of recruiting rankings. (Good, bad, or average)

Ultimately, yes. But a top 10 (maybe a top 5) recruiting class is a coup that (rightly, IMO) buys a coach more time.

[Cheeks]

For me that gives Wojo both this year and next to prove his case but not automatically year 3.

You going to cancel those huge donations and season tickets if it doesn't work out?

[Small Orange Soda]

Ultimately, yes. But a top 10 (maybe a top 5) recruiting class is a coup that (rightly, IMO) buys a coach more time.

A completely fair statement, but I don't think we should count our chickens before Wojo wins with these guys.  He got the first McDonald's All American in 30 years and couldn't even make the NIT.

[Lennys Tap]

You going to cancel those huge donations and season tickets if it doesn't work out?

My huge donations go to the charities - use your insider contacts at the IRS to find out which ones/how huge. Dropped my season tickets when I moved to Naples.

[DoctorV]

My huge donations go to the charities - use your insider contacts at the IRS to find out which ones/how huge. Dropped my season tickets when I moved to Naples.

Italy or Florida?

[Lennys Tap]

Italy or Florida?

We do have a poster who moved to Italy but it's not me.

[Goose]

Shoothoops

It all comes down to long term goals for program. For me, this season is far more about the recruiting than on court success. Of course I want to have both, but looking long term here. If he lands a top five recruiting class than the cupboard is not bare and success will happen on the court.

[Cheeks]

My huge donations go to the charities - use your insider contacts at the IRS to find out which ones/how huge. Dropped my season tickets when I moved to Naples.

No contacts at IRS, I simply pay what Sammy tells me to, but speaking of IRS and how much it costs in FL vs IL, I get the move.  Bonita Springs, down there from time to time....know several MU fans down there that get to 5 or more games a year...need to step up your game.   

[dgies9156]

Shoothoops

It all comes down to long term goals for program. For me, this season is far more about the recruiting than on court success. Of course I want to have both, but looking long term here. If he lands a top five recruiting class than the cupboard is not bare and success will happen on the court.

Brother Goose:

For me, it is put-up or shut-up time. We have a candidate for National POY this year. We have depth we have not had in a long time and we have a power game inside. Hausershima notwithstanding, this is the year that Wojo has everything and it's time to see what he is made of.

The recruiting is a major part of the package and if we fail, there will be problems ahead. But at this point, Coach Wojo has to take what he has and meld them into a second week of the tournament team. Anything less and one must candidly wonder about the direction of the program.