NFL Thread 2019-2020

[WarriorDad]

Arrested?  Surely you mean suspended.

Ahead of myself.  Suspended.  Discussion on the Cardinals forum of rumors he may have fixed games, which is illegal.  Have not seen anything credible to validate rumors.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

For the Bears fans on this thread.


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[Pakuni]

Ahead of myself.  Suspended.  Discussion on the Cardinals forum of rumors he may have fixed games, which is illegal.  Have not seen anything credible to validate rumors.

Fixed games while on the IR?

[Dish]

Allen Robinson is having a hell of a year, he's been really good.

[The Sultan]

If a division winner is below .500, there should be a third wildcard team instead.

[Dish]

This Dallas team is such a fraud. Total butt whipping tonight.

[Jockey]

Wow. Dallas is really bad. I'm sure throwing $25 mil per year at Dak will fix everything.

But, they have quit on Garrett. They aren't even trying to get off blocks or make tackles.

[Jockey]

Beat me to it, Dish.

[Dish]

I would be salivating for the 5 seed in the NFC.

[GB Warrior]

Get that money, Mitch!

Sincerely,
Packers fans

[Jockey]

Get that money, Mitch!

Sincerely,
Packers fans

I hear ya, GB.

[jsglow]

Get that money, Mitch!

Sincerely,
Packers fans

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Speaking of money, Vegas is gonna make a killing on this game.

Apparently 80% of the bets were on the Cowboys. Dropped more money tonight on the Bears then I ever have on a game.

Easy money.

[JWags85]

But, they have quit on Garrett. They aren't even trying to get off blocks or make tackles.

The defensive effort on Mitch's TD run was worse than when teams are purposely letting the other team score in order to get the ball back

[Uncle Rico]

The defensive effort on Mitch's TD run was worse than when teams are purposely letting the other team score in order to get the ball back

After hearing Garrett is going to get fired over and over, the team could have rallied or shrugged their shoulders.  They shrugged their soldiers.  He's gone

[The Sultan]

And Jones is going to look back on the last few years as a wasted opportunity.  I might be wrong about this, but since the Cowboys last went to the Super Bowl in 1995, I believe the only other teams to not make it back to the NFC Championship Game are the Lions and Redskins.  Add the Vikings as one of four teams not to go to the Super Bowl.

[Cheeks]

Clapping Ginger makes Mitch and Sam look like all pros....now that is some next level talent.

[MU82]

And Jones is going to look back on the last few years as a wasted opportunity.  I might be wrong about this, but since the Cowboys last went to the Super Bowl in 1995, I believe the only other teams to not make it back to the NFC Championship Game are the Lions and Redskins.  Add the Vikings as one of four teams not to go to the Super Bowl.

Agree with this.

I don't like knee-jerk coach firings. I think repeated changes there create organization-wide problems that can take years (or even decades) to overcome.

However, the exact opposite happened in Dallas, where underperformance has been accepted for pretty much Garrett's entire time there.

83-66 with zero playoff wins for an entire Lost Decade. Makes ya wonder what Garrett has on Jones.

[Dish]

You guys are all missing the reason Garrett has been there so long. He's zero threat to Jerry from a personnel standpoint. There's no powerplay there at all. There's no better owner/GM/Head Coach relationship in the NFL than in Dallas. To the outside world it might not make sense, but internally they are all on the same page.

[MU82]

You guys are all missing the reason Garrett has been there so long. He's zero threat to Jerry from a personnel standpoint. There's no powerplay there at all. There's no better owner/GM/Head Coach relationship in the NFL than in Dallas. To the outside world it might not make sense, but internally they are all on the same page.

That actually makes a lot of sense.

But certainly he could find a better coach who would similarly have a relatively small role in personnel.

For example, Rivera might not agree to that kind of situation now, but he was in that exact situation when the Panthers hired him in 2011. There are good people out there. I would think by now even "change for the sake of change" would appeal to JJ.

[The Sultan]

You guys are all missing the reason Garrett has been there so long. He's zero threat to Jerry from a personnel standpoint. There's no powerplay there at all. There's no better owner/GM/Head Coach relationship in the NFL than in Dallas. To the outside world it might not make sense, but internally they are all on the same page.

Oh I fully understand *why* Jerry has kept him around.  I just think that Jerry has regrets that he did so without any meaningful results.

[Dish]

Oh I fully understand *why* Jerry has kept him around.  I just think that Jerry has regrets that he did so without any meaningful results.

Does Jerry really care about winning though? I'm sure he wants to win, but I think Jerry likes that it's the family business, being in the limelight, keeping the Cowboys in the news. I mean what other owner is also a GM, routinely does press conferences after every game, and has his own radio segment?

I'm not saying Jerry doesn't want to win, he does, but in his Maslow Hierarchy of Needs, I honestly don't think winning is at the top of his needs.

[MU82]

Dish:

I just now noticed your signature line and it cracked me up. Well done.

[Cheeks]

Does Jerry really care about winning though? I'm sure he wants to win, but I think Jerry likes that it's the family business, being in the limelight, keeping the Cowboys in the news. I mean what other owner is also a GM, routinely does press conferences after every game, and has his own radio segment?

I'm not saying Jerry doesn't want to win, he does, but in his Maslow Hierarchy of Needs, I honestly don't think winning is at the top of his needs.

Do not agree.  I work a ton with the Cowboys and he wants to win very badly.  His ego is massive and helm what he doesn't want to admit is the hierarchy there has failed for decades.  They haven't won a title or even played in a NFC title game since Johnson's players retired.  Johnson is seen as the architect and Jones wants to prove he was or has the ability to do it now. 

I agree 100% with you on Garrett being zero threat, but that's because Jerry wants to be the GM.  Brining in a competent coach means exploiting Jones as the GM.  For diehard Cowboys fans we have been saying this for a long time.

I was in Green Bay at the game when Dallas lost with Wade Phillips.  Next day Garrett was hired.  He's a good assistant, a nice guy, but they walk all over him.

Jerry is getting long in the tooth, and I agree he is starting to regret the thrown away opportunities.  But over paying certain stars has meant little depth...a game plan of the last 20 years...sadly.

[Uncle Rico]

Panthers miss Cam Newton