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wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on October 20, 2019, 01:33:08 PM
Can't believe anyone would suggest the Packers get home cooking at Lambeau.

Where is the home cooking today?

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on October 20, 2019, 01:38:08 PM
Where is the home cooking today?

Phantom PI call led to second Packers TD (perhaps a hold before pass was thrown, but that's 5 yards vs 22)
Kumerow stepped out of bounds at the five on the third "score."

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on October 20, 2019, 01:40:07 PM
Phantom PI call led to second Packers TD (perhaps a hold before pass was thrown, but that's 5 yards vs 22)
Kumerow stepped out of bounds at the five on the third "score."

That was as obvious of a hold as I've ever seen. I don't know if the ball was in the air yet or not, never got an angle of it. Either way it's an automatic first down.

You thought there was clear and conclusive evidence that Kumerow stepped out? You apparently have an angle that you and only you had, because nothing they showed (nor that the refs had, apparently) supports that.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on October 20, 2019, 01:42:01 PM
That was as obvious of a hold as I've ever seen. I don't know if the ball was in the air or not yet, never got an angle of it. Either way it's an automatic first down.

You thought there was clear and conclusive evidence that Kumerow stepped out? You apparently have an angle that you and only you had, because nothing they showed (nor that the refs had, apparently) supports that.

It was a hold, which is 5 yards. The PI call made it 22. You obviously see the difference, right?
Sorry for the size of the photo, but yeah, it's clear he stepped out.


wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on October 20, 2019, 01:43:59 PM
It was a hold, which is 5 yards. The PI call made it 22. You obviously see the difference, right?
Sorry for the size of the photo, but yeah, it's clear he stepped out.



If the ball is in the air it's a PI. They never showed a replay showing where the ball was.

I see nothing there to say he's clearly out of bounds. Gun to my head I'd say his foot touches the paint. But I can't say that for sure. If it's that clear they obviously just overturn the call, given they reviewed it (scoring play). If they called him out of bounds originally they keep it that way. Inconclusive.

Cheeks

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire


Cheeks

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 20, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
Fumble into end zone is one of the worst rules in sports

Only to be topped by giving nba teams the ability to advance ball because they did something in a huddle...call a timeout.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Pakuni

Somehow the on-field officials missed that out of bounds play as well. Weird.
We'll see if it's conclusive enough for the replay booth.

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on October 20, 2019, 01:53:16 PM
Somehow the on-field officials missed that out of bounds play as well. Weird.
We'll see if it's conclusive enough for the replay booth.

It was.

hairy worthen

Quote from: Pakuni on October 20, 2019, 01:43:59 PM
It was a hold, which is 5 yards. The PI call made it 22. You obviously see the difference, right?
Sorry for the size of the photo, but yeah, it's clear he stepped out.


no thats anything but clear

wadesworld

Let me guess. Jacobs clearly over the plane. 😂

wadesworld

Thank you, refs, for this 42-17 lead.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on October 20, 2019, 02:47:02 PM
Thank you, refs, for this 42-17 lead.

Sheesh, you guys sure are sensitive. Pointing out when your team benefits from a bad call is not a personal affront.

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on October 20, 2019, 03:05:45 PM
Sheesh, you guys sure are sensitive. Pointing out when your team benefits from a bad call is not a personal affront.

If my team benefitted from a bad call I'd agree. The Packers benefitted from a bad call last week. No issue discussing it when they do.

Pretending there were clear bad calls when that isn't the case is very worth mocking.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: wadesworld on October 20, 2019, 03:09:11 PM
If my team benefitted from a bad call I'd agree. The Packers benefitted from a bad call last week. No issue discussing it when they do.

Pretending there were clear bad calls when that isn't the case is very worth mocking.

Agreed.  Last week was a joke.  This week was just close calls that could have gone either way.

The Kumerow score didnt matter anyway, the lead was huge, and the ball would have gone out to the 10

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 20, 2019, 01:43:59 PM
It was a hold, which is 5 yards. The PI call made it 22. You obviously see the difference, right?
Sorry for the size of the photo, but yeah, it's clear he stepped out.



At the Stadium they showed a super close up of the Kumerow out of bounds issue. Exactly what the refs see. When they did that it wasn't very obvious that he stepped out. Good to not reverse because it wasn't clear.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

Bears offense stinks. Trubisky ain't helping, but it sure as heck isn't all on him either. Playcalling/scheme leaves a lot to be desired.

WarriorDad

"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Dish

I mean, it needs to be said, the Saints should be up 32-3 right now. Total ass kicking again, this time off the bye.

The Trubisky/Nagy combo is so bad, one is grossly incompetent, other is a complete fraud. That's not a recipe for success.

wadesworld

#670
Saints better without Brees....

Bears better without Mitchell.

Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 20, 2019, 05:03:05 PM
Bears offense stinks. Trubisky ain't helping, but it sure as heck isn't all on him either. Playcalling/scheme leaves a lot to be desired.

It's mostly on Trubisky. And the OL.

When a coach has to come out and say we need to simplify our offense for Mitch, isn't that the same thing as saying our Mitch sucks?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MUDish on October 20, 2019, 05:48:10 PM
I mean, it needs to be said, the Saints should be up 32-3 right now. Total ass kicking again, this time off the bye.

The Trubisky/Nagy combo is so bad, one is grossly incompetent, other is a complete fraud. That's not a recipe for success.

Dish

Trusbisky reminds me a little of Rick Mirer, former ND, Seahawk and Bear QB. Scouts loved his size, arm strength, mobility, etc. The only apparent drawback was that he wasn't a particularly accurate passer. Without an accurate arm all that other stuff doesn't matter much. Another fault of Trubisky's is he locks on his receivers early.

Cheeks

Quote from: wadesworld on October 20, 2019, 05:48:27 PM
Saints better without Brees....

Bears better without Mitchell.

Saints winning with and without Brees.  Panthers winning without Newton...coming up on almost a year since Panthers last won with Newton.

Bears draft pick looks dumber and dumber by the year.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

forgetful

Well the Bears have mastered the onside kick at least.

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