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The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 15, 2019, 03:46:32 PM
Cmon...barstool?

Have to agree with Fluffy here.  But, I do love that one tweet they show of one of the Flowers' plays -- not sure whether it was the first or the second -- and one of the guys in the background has a handful of facemask.  I'm going to be looking for this when I watch games this weekend.  I'm guessing that there will be contact with the face on pretty much every single blocking assignment.  Which is, of course, exactly why the rule tries to make clear that in normal cases such contact is not a foul.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

jesmu84

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 15, 2019, 03:46:32 PM
Cmon...barstool?

Oh jeez.

Take the story with a grain of salt. It isn't a bastion of hard hitting/breaking news. It's entertainment/comedy most of the time.

More importantly, a lot of aggregated tweets/pictures from the game of plays talked about here.

forgetful

Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 15, 2019, 03:54:17 PM
Have to agree with Fluffy here.  But, I do love that one tweet they show of one of the Flowers' plays -- not sure whether it was the first or the second -- and one of the guys in the background has a handful of facemask.  I'm going to be looking for this when I watch games this weekend.  I'm guessing that there will be contact with the face on pretty much every single blocking assignment.  Which is, of course, exactly why the rule tries to make clear that in normal cases such contact is not a foul.

A big part of all of this is Baktiari specifically addressed Flowers' repeated hands to the face with the officials during the game.

So they were specifically looking for it and Baktiari sold it.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: forgetful on October 15, 2019, 04:22:59 PM
A big part of all of this is Baktiari specifically addressed Flowers' repeated hands to the face with the officials during the game.

So they were specifically looking for it and Baktiari sold it.

I promise I'm not arguing just for the sake of arguing, but that kind of makes it even worse for me.  It is indisputable that on both plays that got flagged, Bakhtiari got his hands in Flowers' face. I would think that any competent ref would say to Bakhtiari, "quit whining...you've got your hands in his face too."  To give in to Bakhtiari's whining when he was getting his hands in Flowers' face too is ridiculous.  And if he didn't notice...well that's pretty ridiculous too.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: drewm88 on October 15, 2019, 09:23:12 AM
Forget the officials. My takeaway was that Booger sucks. First time I'd watched much MNF this season. You don't have to fill every silence. I liked him last year as a 3rd guy. Does he always talk this much as the #2?

Just catching up on my reading here-my thoughts exactly!  Who is this booooger?  Someone get him some decaf next game. And he wouldn't let it go. I wonder if he saw those games where clay got 2 nasty roughing the QB calls just for playing football. What goes around...
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

hairy worthen

Quote from: MUDish on October 14, 2019, 10:39:44 PM
I thought Detroit was the better team out there tonight. They made the mistake of getting field goals instead of TD's.

That Umpire should be suspended, or at least barred from the postseason. Watching these replays, it's unfathomable to me someone can make the exact same call, within 9 minutes of game play, with a player like Flowers who has never committed that penalty. How the ref, staring at same players on both replays, didn't overrule is absurd.
you act as if Detroit had a choice to go for touchdowns vs field goals. take away the first quarter and 2 long plays and the Packers defense dominated. Check the second half stats

Pakuni

Jalen Ramsey to the Rams for two firsts and a fourth.
Draft picks ain't worth what they used to be.

Dish

Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2019, 07:02:13 PM
Jalen Ramsey to the Rams for two firsts and a fourth.
Draft picks ain't worth what they used to be.

Rams secondary got quite the makeover today. If the Rams end up going 8-8, that'll be a hefty price.

Pakuni

Quote from: MUDish on October 15, 2019, 07:12:58 PM
Rams secondary got quite the makeover today. If the Rams end up going 8-8, that'll be a hefty price.

Kind of a weird move. Ramsey is elite, but the Rams play in a largely run-game dominated division with many top WRs (beyond Fitzgerald, who's past prime).
Seems like a panicky reaction to their recent play.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2019, 07:17:47 PM
Kind of a weird move. Ramsey is elite, but the Rams play in a largely run-game dominated division with many top WRs (beyond Fitzgerald, who's past prime).
Seems like a panicky reaction to their recent play.

Rams as of the moment will go without first round picks from '17 through '21.  That's old school Redskins stuff
Guster is for Lovers

Dish

Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2019, 07:17:47 PM
Kind of a weird move. Ramsey is elite, but the Rams play in a largely run-game dominated division with many top WRs (beyond Fitzgerald, who's past prime).
Seems like a panicky reaction to their recent play.

They also are going to have to pay Ramsey now too, or at least soon. With Donald and Goff with big numbers already, I don't know how they are going to take on a third massive number. Whole thing seems strange, and Ramsey is great, just kinda weird fit.

GB Warrior

They technically could go year to year with Ramsey for the next 2 years with the 5th year option and franchise tag, but hard to see him letting that fly.

It's a huge price for the best CB in the NFL - whoever has been in that spot has had a relatively short stay, but Ramsey is much younger than the last couple (Revis, Sherman). That said, not sure an elite CB is worth the same price (and more) as a pass rusher like Mack.

This is, however, the model when you have a QB on his rookie deal. Chips to the table.


Dish

Quote from: GB Warrior on October 15, 2019, 08:50:20 PM
They technically could go year to year with Ramsey for the next 2 years with the 5th year option and franchise tag, but hard to see him letting that fly.

It's a huge price for the best CB in the NFL - whoever has been in that spot has had a relatively short stay, but Ramsey is much younger than the last couple (Revis, Sherman). That said, not sure an elite CB is worth the same price (and more) as a pass rusher like Mack.

This is, however, the model when you have a QB on his rookie deal. Chips to the table.

In this case though, Goff's rookie deal is over. Next year, Goff and Donald consume 37% of the Rams cap space. If anything, they're trying to take advantage of Ramsey's rookie deal still. I don't know if Ramsey will be open to being franchised either. Trading Peters helps, but Ramsey's deal eventually will dwarf it. I just don't know how they can possibly have three guys taking up 50% of their cap space in one (or both) of the next two years. Especially with no early round picks to use as cheap cap space labor.

Pakuni

RIP Brocktober.

Brock Osweiler is retiring.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 16, 2019, 04:08:01 PM
RIP Brocktober.

Brock Osweiler is retiring.


$41 million in career earnings.  37 total TD passes.  15-15 record as a starter.

What a country.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 16, 2019, 04:16:13 PM

$41 million in career earnings.  37 total TD passes.  15-15 record as a starter.

What a country.

I'm raising my son to be tall.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Pakuni on October 16, 2019, 04:29:54 PM
I'm raising my son to be tall.

So he can be a stiff for the badger like than one dude that quit?  Markoff?  He was just tall, too.

Pakuni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 16, 2019, 05:08:18 PM
So he can be a stiff for the badger like than one dude that quit?  Markoff?  He was just tall, too.

I might fail as a father in many ways, but instilling a healthy hatred for the Badgers won't be one of them.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: wadesworld on October 15, 2019, 01:39:05 PM
This. He looked like the best QB in the NFL for the first time in the last 3 seasons.

And Jamal looked like a man possessed. He ran hard.
I was not at all a fan of Williams last year.  I don't know if he was dealing with injuries or what, but he seemed indecisive, un-explosive, and completely lacking a second gear.  He looks like a completely different runner this year.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on October 16, 2019, 04:29:54 PM
I'm raising my son to be tall.

Jimmy Mac can provide you some tips.

Pakuni

Calling for a sneak with your already gimpy MVP quarterback seems like a bad idea.

MU82

Raiders defensive coordinator calls NFL's suspension of Burfect "a witch hunt."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-defensive-coordinator-calls-vontaze-burficts-suspension-a-witch-hunt/

Actually, it was a witch trial, and Burfect was burned at the stake. And justifiably so.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Can't believe anyone would suggest the Packers get home cooking at Lambeau.

jesmu84

Fumble into end zone is one of the worst rules in sports

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