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TedBaxter

From what I was told, Herro never showed much interest in Marquette, even when he was visiting unofficially.  The comment of "didn't really seem like he wanted to be here" while he was visiting.
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

Newsdreams

Quote from: TedBaxter on June 21, 2019, 06:09:46 PM
From what I was told, Herro never showed much interest in Marquette, even when he was visiting unofficially.  The comment of "didn't really seem like he wanted to be here" while he was visiting.
That would be Grimes
Goal is National Championship
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 21, 2019, 02:13:42 PM

Couldn't agree more. Herro has the offense, defense, and swag to enjoy a long NBA career. Just the type of 2 guard this program continues to need.

very similar to divincenzo.  i think i'd rather have the eyetalian though.  both can shoot, but donte is one of quickest white boys i've seen.  not sure about herro's defense though doc
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

TedBaxter

Quote from: Newsdreams on June 21, 2019, 06:11:12 PM
That would be Grimes
No, this was attributed to the Herro unofficial visit(s).  I was told that he was a bit disrespectful to some people involved with the program and by that I was to assume to some of the programs support staff. 
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Newsdreams on June 21, 2019, 06:02:40 PM
It was actually Big Daddy who said the Hausers told Wojo they wouldn't be comfortable with him

Well, maybe the Hausers would have been (who knows, total speculation) but that didn't stop Wojo and co. from recruiting them. That's a fact.

Nukem2

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 21, 2019, 06:12:37 PM
very similar to divincenzo.  i think i'd rather have the eyetalian though.  both can shoot, but donte is one of quickest white boys i've seen.  not sure about herro's defense though doc
Yup, and his wingspan is not good either.

MU82

Quote from: AirPunch on June 21, 2019, 04:23:26 PM
I no longer get excited about being mentioned with elite level recruits. If there isn't a brother involved, this staff hasn't really shown the ability to close on highly sought after recruits. Howard and Torrence are exceptional cases as they both reclassified and were offered a spot a year earlier than most other major programs would have offered.

So if I understand correctly ...

Hank, Joey, Markus and Symir don't really count as hits ... but Grimes, Herro, Hagans and Dainja do count as misses.

Good to know the rules going in.
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4everwarriors

He's a hell of a baller. I stand firm on my critique of Herro, the basketball player.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2019, 04:50:57 PM
It was treated as gospel by Scoopers who were delusional enough to think we were "in" on Herro. It provided an excuse for not getting him. A BS excuse, but an excuse nonetheless.

We recruited Herro, he picked UW over us, and when he blew up he decommitted from UW and went "blue blood".

Big Daddy

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=48207.msg957337#msg957337

No BS at all.  As for UW, they are ALWASYS going to get some players that we don't from certain parts of the state.  This is a provincial state, kids are put in Badger diapers from day one.  That's the way it goes.  Sorry, this isn't the 1970's or 1980's when UW-Madison sucked, they have been easily one of the top 10 programs in the country the last 20 years which is the world we recruit in, not the one Al or KO or Majerus did when UW-Madison was on a 47 year dry spell to the tournament. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Jay Bilas ( I think it was him)  didn't seem so excited yesterday, thought he was taken too high.  We'll see how this kid pans out, but I don't see long term career with him unless it is as a specialist.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

brewcity77

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2019, 06:16:10 PM
Well, maybe the Hausers would have been (who knows, total speculation) but that didn't stop Wojo and co. from recruiting them. That's a fact.

Marquette offered Herro early. That's true. How many 5-star in-state players have we not offered in the past 20 years?

By the time he committed & when he reopened his recruitment, Marquette was no longer involved. Similar to Looney. Similar to Stone. Similar to Tokoto. Just because those players once held a Marquette offer doesn't mean Marquette was putting resources into recruiting them once decision time arrived.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 21, 2019, 08:43:42 PM
Marquette offered Herro early. That's true. How many 5-star in-state players have we not offered in the past 20 years?

By the time he committed & when he reopened his recruitment, Marquette was no longer involved. Similar to Looney. Similar to Stone. Similar to Tokoto. Just because those players once held a Marquette offer doesn't mean Marquette was putting resources into recruiting them once decision time arrived.

I agree, Brew. MU didn't go after Herro the 2nd time around - we knew he wanted a Kentucky (blue blood) situation that we couldn't provide.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 21, 2019, 08:43:42 PM
Marquette offered Herro early. That's true. How many 5-star in-state players have we not offered in the past 20 years?

By the time he committed & when he reopened his recruitment, Marquette was no longer involved. Similar to Looney. Similar to Stone. Similar to Tokoto. Just because those players once held a Marquette offer doesn't mean Marquette was putting resources into recruiting them once decision time arrived.

But when he decommitted from UW it was pretty obvious he wasn't looking for Marquette. So why waste resources.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Cheeks on June 21, 2019, 08:23:14 PM
Jay Bilas ( I think it was him)  didn't seem so excited yesterday, thought he was taken too high.  We'll see how this kid pans out, but I don't see long term career with him unless it is as a specialist.
I know it is cliche, but heart cannot be measured and this kid plays with a lot of heart. I also give the young man credit for working hard on all aspects of his game. He didn't just settle for being a good shooter.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Cheeks

Yes, heart is difficult to measure.  Hopefully he does well, this is certainly his dream and very few get to fulfill their dreams.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Nukem2 on June 21, 2019, 06:18:31 PM
Yup, and his wingspan is not good either.

He's got major bust potential, don't see it with him at all

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Herman Cain on June 21, 2019, 09:50:20 PM
I know it is cliche, but heart cannot be measured and this kid plays with a lot of heart. I also give the young man credit for working hard on all aspects of his game. He didn't just settle for being a good shooter.

Actually, you can measure a heart with things like cardiac ultrasounds and stress echocardiograms.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 21, 2019, 07:39:33 PM
He's a hell of a baller. I stand firm on my critique of Herro, the basketball player.

that he is, BUT, something about him makes me pause...he has a little bit of cockiness that can go either way AND he does look a little like johnny football.  i wish him well and hope he uses his promotion to his advantage
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

forgetful

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on June 21, 2019, 10:23:11 PM
He's got major bust potential, don't see it with him at all

I agree. His ceiling is a 10-year solid contributor, don't see him ever being a star. His floor is out of the league in 3 years.  Too much bust potential, without the chance for major upside for a lottery pick.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2019, 06:16:10 PM
Well, maybe the Hausers would have been (who knows, total speculation) but that didn't stop Wojo and co. from recruiting them. That's a fact.
This was after we knew Joey was coming. Per Big Daddy and it ended up being prophetical:

Surprised we did not hear from Big Daddy over the last couple of days regarding Grimes. Was hoping for insight on what happened and what's the deal with Herro.Guess I will wait to read about in the paper.

Goose I lost a sibling last week unexpectedly.  Mu is important, but family first.  She had a great life and her husband is a fellow warrior. 

Grimes story will have to wait.

Some other items are easier.  Sometimes a hypothetical player say player T makes it clear they want to play with players S&J, but that does not mean Players J&S want the same thing   Sometimes a player will even switch teams to get away from a player.  Coaches know that chemistry is critical.


Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Newsdreams on June 22, 2019, 04:45:11 PM
This was after we knew Joey was coming. Per Big Daddy and it ended up being prophetical:

Surprised we did not hear from Big Daddy over the last couple of days regarding Grimes. Was hoping for insight on what happened and what's the deal with Herro.Guess I will wait to read about in the paper.

Goose I lost a sibling last week unexpectedly.  Mu is important, but family first.  She had a great life and her husband is a fellow warrior. 

Grimes story will have to wait.

Some other items are easier.  Sometimes a hypothetical player say player T makes it clear they want to play with players S&J, but that does not mean Players J&S want the same thing   Sometimes a player will even switch teams to get away from a player.  Coaches know that chemistry is critical.


   sorry for your loss news.  peace
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: Newsdreams on June 22, 2019, 04:45:11 PM
This was after we knew Joey was coming. Per Big Daddy and it ended up being prophetical:

Surprised we did not hear from Big Daddy over the last couple of days regarding Grimes. Was hoping for insight on what happened and what's the deal with Herro.Guess I will wait to read about in the paper.

Goose I lost a sibling last week unexpectedly.  Mu is important, but family first.  She had a great life and her husband is a fellow warrior. 

Grimes story will have to wait.

Some other items are easier.  Sometimes a hypothetical player say player T makes it clear they want to play with players S&J, but that does not mean Players J&S want the same thing   Sometimes a player will even switch teams to get away from a player.  Coaches know that chemistry is critical.





Sensing a theme from the Diva Boys.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 22, 2019, 04:48:42 PM
   sorry for your loss news.  peace
That was a Big Daddy quote he was the one who lost the sibling
Goal is National Championship
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Skip Intro

My advice to Herro:  keep your parents away from your money.  A lot of red flags about Pa Herro. 

Part of me thinks that the Herro-Hausers storyline may have had more to do with the parents than their sons.  Especially if the Hauser parents were as involved as their exit from MU suggests.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Newsdreams on June 22, 2019, 04:52:09 PM
That was a Big Daddy quote he was the one who lost the sibling

thanks for the clarification-missed the first line
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

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