What Are Your Expectations For Marquette As A Program?

[TallTitan34]

It seems like a big divide on the board comes from what peoples expectations are for the program.  So I am just curious what peoples expectations are for the program?



For me, once a coach has a team in place with his guys (4 years) I'd expect Marquette to make the tournament roughly every three of four years.  I don't care if some years are as a high seed, or some years as a bubble team.  First and foremost, make the tournament around 75% of the time.  I think that's a lofty goal but doable at Marquette.

After that it's hard for me to define my expectations once making the tournament because it's such a crap shoot with so many variables.  I guess reaching the second weekend every one in three years would satisfy me but again a lot would depend on the situation.  Sometimes there will be matchups you should easily handle and other times there will be bad matchups.  Sometimes you play an under-seeded Final Four team.  If you can make the tournament 75% of the time though, I think tournament success will come.

[dgies9156]

1) Among the highest revenue producers in college basketball.

2) Consistent Top 10 finisher and elite program.

3) Graduates them all, or almost all of them!

[Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020]

With the money spent on this program, perennial top 25 capable of making a deep run each year.   

[Galway Eagle]

1) Among the highest revenue producers in college basketball.

2) Consistent Top 10 finisher and elite program.

3) Graduates them all, or almost all of them!

so you've not been happy since 78...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

To be a basketball blue blood. I'm just very patient.

[BrewCity83]

With the money spent on this program, perennial top 25 capable of making a deep run each year.

This is where I'm at. 

I understand they may not quite make it every year, but that's my expectation.

[GooooMarquette]

Expectations:

--Consistently top half of BE, with frequent 1-3 finishes.
--NCAA most seasons (75%), with a second-weekend run (or more) every 3-4 years.
--Spend more weeks in the top 25 than out of it.
--People are far more surprised when we don't make NCAA than when we make it.
--aka Very high level program, but not a Blue Blood.

Hopes:

--Top 25 nearly all the time, with top 10 common.
--Top 1-3 in BE every year.
--NCAA second weekend at least 4 out of 5 years, and FF once or twice.
--aka Blue Blood

I lived through the Al era and sat in the Omni that night, and I would love for Wojo (or someone) to be the second coming of Al. But no amount of money can guarantee that, and I recognize that guys like Al, JTII, Wright or Few don't come along very often at smaller private schools.

[PointWarrior]

My expectations for the program are to constantly have a new thread on MUScoop every 2 weeks to ask what are my expectations for the program. 

[Galway Eagle]

Minimum expectation: To win 20 games (or tournament), not have major scandals, beat Wisconsin

Regular expectations: ncaa 4/5 years, usually in the top 25, be picked to win games in March, beat Wisconsin

Expectations if those are met: Xavier's record of getting to the second weekend, usually top 15, beat Wisconsin

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Expectations:

--Consistently top half of BE, with frequent 1-3 finishes.
--NCAA most seasons (75%), with a second-weekend run (or more) every 3-4 years.
--Spend more weeks in the top 25 than out of it.
--People are far more surprised when we don't make NCAA than when we make it.
--aka Very high level program, but not a Blue Blood.

Hopes:

--Top 25 nearly all the time, with top 10 common.
--Top 1-3 in BE every year.
--NCAA second weekend at least 4 out of 5 years, and FF once or twice.
--aka Blue Blood

I lived through the Al era and sat in the Omni that night, and I would love for Wojo (or someone) to be the second coming of Al. But no amount of money can guarantee that, and I recognize that guys like Al, JTII, Wright or Few don't come along very often at smaller private schools.

I agree with this.  Baseline of being good regularly and occasionally great, with the goal to become a consistent powerhouse.

[tower912]

My expectations for the program are to constantly have a new thread on MUScoop every 2 weeks to ask what are my expectations for the program.

See, that could be a different thread.    What are my expectations for Scoop?

[#UnleashSean]

• Make the tournament 8 times each decade. The two times we miss there has to be a reason. 6 seniors graduated? Ok? 5 players left 3 seniors, 2 pros? ok. 3 guys transferred from the starting 5? No.
• Never finish below 4th in the Big East. We were damn close to doing that in the old Big East. We should NEVER finish below 4th, and 4th should be a disappointing finish. Depaul is a dumpster fire, St Johns has proven that they are never going to be anything other than a bubble team with some noise. Georgetown, is well, not getting it done. Providence is good less then once in a blue moon. Butler maybe less then providence now. Xavier lost Mack and look whack. Creighton isn't much without the younger mcderm. Seton Hall is somehow coming along. Nova is a perennial, so should be Marquette.
• Putting players into the nba should be a Marquette staple as it was with Buzz.
• Perennial top 25.

We spend a lot on our basketball, We've been to the top before, we've been consistantly great before, its time to start expecting these things.

[willie warrior]

~~Compete each year for Beast title
~~Top 25 program every year
~~Make the dance every year
~~Consistent top 10 recruiting classes
~~Dynamic coach who gets most out of his players each year
~~Deep run in Dance periodically
~~Final 4 appearances at least once every decade
With MU's resources,the above should be expected, and Wojo's track record does not closely approach this

[dgies9156]

so you've not been happy since 78...

2003 wasn't bad but generally, not as happy as I should be.

1978 was the Championship that wasn't, so technically I really haven't been happy since March 1977!

[Billy Hoyle]

no less than top half of Big East every year, top 3 most years
ranked or receiving votes every year
in NCAA tournament conversation every year
no off-court issues (arrests, NCAA issues, suspensions, ineligibility)

We have to be realistic.  Someone said make the Final Four once a decade? We've been three times in 45 years. Even Duke had only been three times in the last 15.

[CountryRoads]

1. NCAA 4 of every 5 years
2. Fringe Top 25 in the 4 NCAA years

I have little NCAA expectations but assuming that by the law of averages they would win a few games in that 5 year span.

[Galway Eagle]

2003 wasn't bad but generally, not as happy as I should be.

1978 was the Championship that wasn't, so technically I really haven't been happy since March 1977!

2003 was one year, not exactly what I'd call consistent top 10.

You didn't say actually win the championship just consistent top 10 so I said 78. But hey if you wanna extend your the MUBB misery a year go right ahead.

[TallTitan34]

Expectations:

--Consistently top half of BE, with frequent 1-3 finishes.
--NCAA most seasons (75%), with a second-weekend run (or more) every 3-4 years.
--Spend more weeks in the top 25 than out of it.
--People are far more surprised when we don't make NCAA than when we make it.
--aka Very high level program, but not a Blue Blood.

Hopes:

--Top 25 nearly all the time, with top 10 common.
--Top 1-3 in BE every year.
--NCAA second weekend at least 4 out of 5 years, and FF once or twice.
--aka Blue Blood

I lived through the Al era and sat in the Omni that night, and I would love for Wojo (or someone) to be the second coming of Al. But no amount of money can guarantee that, and I recognize that guys like Al, JTII, Wright or Few don't come along very often at smaller private schools.

I like this.

[tower912]

Expectations:

--Consistently top half of BE, with frequent 1-3 finishes.
--NCAA most seasons (75%), with a second-weekend run (or more) every 3-4 years.
--Spend more weeks in the top 25 than out of it.
--People are far more surprised when we don't make NCAA than when we make it.
--aka Very high level program, but not a Blue Blood.

Hopes:
Close enough
--Top 25 nearly all the time, with top 10 common.
--Top 1-3 in BE every year.
--NCAA second weekend at least 4 out of 5 years, and FF once or twice.
--aka Blue Blood

I lived through the Al era and sat in the Omni that night, and I would love for Wojo (or someone) to be the second coming of Al. But no amount of money can guarantee that, and I recognize that guys like Al, JTII, Wright or Few don't come along very often at smaller private schools.

Close enough.

[jesmu84]

Expectations:

--Consistently top half of BE, with frequent 1-3 finishes.
--NCAA most seasons (75%), with a second-weekend run (or more) every 3-4 years.
--Spend more weeks in the top 25 than out of it.
--People are far more surprised when we don't make NCAA than when we make it.
--aka Very high level program, but not a Blue Blood.

Hopes:

--Top 25 nearly all the time, with top 10 common.
--Top 1-3 in BE every year.
--NCAA second weekend at least 4 out of 5 years, and FF once or twice.
--aka Blue Blood

I lived through the Al era and sat in the Omni that night, and I would love for Wojo (or someone) to be the second coming of Al. But no amount of money can guarantee that, and I recognize that guys like Al, JTII, Wright or Few don't come along very often at smaller private schools.

I'm on-board.

Curious... For you, how long would you give a coach who consistently fulfills expectations, but rarely achieves hopes?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm on-board.

Curious... For you, how long would you give a coach who consistently fulfills expectations, but rarely achieves hopes?

Coachs job is to build the program. Plateau long enough and they will move on. The higher you build the program,  the longer you are allowed to plateau

[We R Final Four]

My expectations for the program are to constantly have a new thread on MUScoop every 2 weeks to ask what are my expectations for the program.

This is awesome.

[bilsu]

5 year cycle in no particular order.
NIT
NCAA one & done
2 sweet 16's
1 elite 8

I would like more, but realistically you have to think a really good team is going to lose a player who enters the draft. That is what happen after our last Elite 8.

[jesmu84]

5 year cycle in no particular order.
NIT
NCAA one & done
2 sweet 16's
1 elite 8

I would like more, but realistically you have to think a really good team is going to lose a player who enters the draft. That is what happen after our last Elite 8.

Since Al, how many of those cycles have actually happened?

[dgies9156]

2003 was one year, not exactly what I'd call consistent top 10.

You didn't say actually win the championship just consistent top 10 so I said 78. But hey if you wanna extend your the MUBB misery a year go right ahead.

I was on campus both in 1977 and 1978. While 1978 was a great regular season, what happened in the NCAA really clouded that season. We were never the same again.

I still contend if we're well run, there's no reason we can't be a Villanova, Gonzaga, Duke or even Georgetown in its heyday. We need coaching stability, strong recruiting and a commitment from the top down to excellence.