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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2019, 04:32:49 PM »
To the people here who place most or all of the blame on Wojo, I have a question:

Do you think it was Pop’s fault the Kawhi didn’t want to play in San Antonio? Kawhi basically did what Joey did to get out of town.

When Wojo gets Pop’s resume, let me know.
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2019, 04:34:38 PM »
The TV broadcasts throughout the season often showed the Hauser parents in the stands at home games and even some -- maybe many -- road games. Stevens Point is 155 miles from Milwaukee -- not exactly down the block. I assume the father has a job. How do you find time to do all that traveling? And it isn't cheap. Along with everything the father allegedly did, he (they) seem like stereotypical helicopter parents taken to the extreme.  A redo of Maymon’s father.

If I had kids playing D1 ball and was 155 miles from campus, I would be at pretty much every game possible. Probably using the money that I set aside for their college education.
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2019, 04:35:21 PM »
Everything I've heard indicates that the parents would have preferred them to stick it out at MU. This was the kids' decision.

This exactly...the parents were not in favor of them leaving MU, very strongly against it. And yes one Kid made the decision, the other went along with it, and would have gone along with whatever he decided.
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2019, 04:38:45 PM »
This reeks of a PR “leak.”
Deserves skepticism at the very least. Instead it’s being gobbled up as the most believable version lol
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2019, 04:40:03 PM »
Deserves skepticism at the very least. Instead it’s being gobbled up as the most believable version lol

Ironic.
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« Reply #80 on: May 05, 2019, 04:41:19 PM »
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #81 on: May 05, 2019, 04:57:00 PM »
When Wojo gets Pop’s resume, let me know.

That has nothing to do with my question.

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #82 on: May 05, 2019, 05:02:17 PM »
That has nothing to do with my question.

Of course it does. When someone has shown to be among the very best at their profession, they get the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #83 on: May 05, 2019, 05:04:24 PM »
Deserves skepticism at the very least. Instead it’s being gobbled up as the most believable version lol
The fact that Dodds didn’t delete the post is a dead giveaway.

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #84 on: May 05, 2019, 05:05:04 PM »
Of course it does. When someone has shown to be among the very best at their profession, they get the benefit of the doubt.

so if he did it at pomona pitzer when he was 76-129 you could crucify him for it but because hes proven his convictions work over time you cant?
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #85 on: May 05, 2019, 05:06:42 PM »
The fact that Dodds didn’t delete the post is a dead giveaway.

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #86 on: May 05, 2019, 05:06:56 PM »
To the people here who place most or all of the blame on Wojo, I have a question:

Do you think it was Pop’s fault the Kawhi didn’t want to play in San Antonio? Kawhi basically did what Joey did to get out of town.

I don’t know if it is his fault but he’s accountable for it.  Luckily for him the organization chose to bet on him versus the player.  But it doesn’t always go that way in the NBA and many times the coach is out.  That being said that seems like apples and peaches to this whole fiasco. 

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« Reply #87 on: May 05, 2019, 05:14:50 PM »
so if he did it at pomona pitzer when he was 76-129 you could crucify him for it but because hes proven his convictions work over time you cant?

Well what he did back then wasn’t part of the hypothetical.

But yes. His experience and success gives him the benefit of the doubt.
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« Reply #88 on: May 05, 2019, 05:27:33 PM »
I don’t know if it is his fault but he’s accountable for it.  Luckily for him the organization chose to bet on him versus the player.  But it doesn’t always go that way in the NBA and many times the coach is out.  That being said that seems like apples and peaches to this whole fiasco.

Good reply, Frenns. I tend to disagree cuz a coach can’t control a player’s emotions. If a guy wants to leave he’s going to do it one way or the other.

 Kawhi didn’t want to play for Pops. Joey didn’t want to play for Wojo. So they moved on.

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #89 on: May 05, 2019, 05:32:14 PM »
The TV broadcasts throughout the season often showed the Hauser parents in the stands at home games and even some -- maybe many -- road games. Stevens Point is 155 miles from Milwaukee -- not exactly down the block. I assume the father has a job. How do you find time to do all that traveling? And it isn't cheap. Along with everything the father allegedly did, he (they) seem like stereotypical helicopter parents taken to the extreme.  A redo of Maymon’s father.
Putting a negative spin on the fact that the Hausers made every effort to see their sons play college basketball together?  Uh, yeah, OK.
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #90 on: May 05, 2019, 05:33:30 PM »
Henry had his own ambitions which were to audition for the NBA scouts.
I agree with this analysis
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #91 on: May 05, 2019, 05:34:18 PM »
Deserves skepticism at the very least. Instead it’s being gobbled up as the most believable version lol

People believe the version of events that most closely resembles their predetermined narrative.
Yourself included.
The irony you're missing is that you're guilty of that at which you scoff.

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #92 on: May 05, 2019, 06:38:59 PM »
Kawhi didn’t want to play for Pops. Joey didn’t want to play for Wojo. So they moved on.

Sure if this is your CYO league.  These guys are paid to win basketball games at their respective levels. I guess if the “shrug”, jimmy’s a poor sport argument makes it feel better, more power to you. 

Wojo is paid to recruit and retain major D1 b-ball contributors.  Pop is paid to win with the talent the gm assembled.     

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #93 on: May 05, 2019, 07:09:08 PM »
People believe the version of events that most closely resembles their predetermined narrative.
Yourself included.
The irony you're missing is that you're guilty of that at which you scoff.

This is true. A version of it could be repeated in any thread where an opinion is expressed since they are largely informed by our biases. Mine, yours, everyone's.

So, no more opinions, no more biases and no more irony. Shut 'er down.

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #94 on: May 05, 2019, 07:10:29 PM »
This exactly...the parents were not in favor of them leaving MU, very strongly against it. And yes one Kid made the decision, the other went along with it, and would have gone along with whatever he decided.

I feel bad for Sam. He should have stayed to finish out as a great Warrior. 

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #95 on: May 05, 2019, 07:23:50 PM »
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me.” Al McGuire

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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #96 on: May 05, 2019, 07:24:55 PM »
Plenty of kids come from small towns and adjust just fine.

Yup, and plenty don’t.  But small town is only one part, it is the part about being the guy and being a winner in that small town all the time that is tougher to adjust to when you are no longer the guy.
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #97 on: May 05, 2019, 07:27:02 PM »
Deserves skepticism at the very least. Instead it’s being gobbled up as the most believable version lol

Delicious irony of the most tasty savory variety.
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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #98 on: May 05, 2019, 07:38:01 PM »
This is true. A version of it could be repeated in any thread where an opinion is expressed since they are largely informed by our biases. Mine, yours, everyone's.

So, no more opinions, no more biases and no more irony. Shut 'er down.

Nah.
Much better to pretend I know everything and claim that any version that conflicts with my own is PR spin (and unethical PR spin at that).
Cause Lord knows that if the coaches wanted to get itheir spin out, they could find no better means than through an anonymous post three weeks after the fact on Dodds' board.


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Re: Joey made it happen?
« Reply #99 on: May 05, 2019, 08:03:39 PM »
People believe the version of events that most closely resembles their predetermined narrative.
Yourself included.
The irony you're missing is that you're guilty of that at which you scoff.
Not guilty at all. I’ve heard a version of the same story early on from multiple sources. This story came out and I considered it (see the outside view of Hausers thread). No confirmation bias here. All that said this new version which marinated for weeks for reasons unknown deserves a fair amount of skepticism. Ironically it’s getting very little from the pro Wojo crowd
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