Joey made it happen?

[Cheeks]

He probably also saw what was happening with Herro.

Hero is a much better player than Joey.  I think Joey can become a very good player, but the upside much like Hank has a ceiling that is lower than what he believes it is.  Now, if Joey haunts us for one whole game a year.... oh well. 

[tower912]

He probably also saw what was happening with Herro.

Whom he reportedly did not want to play with.  Because of ball hogging tendencies.

[Cheeks]

There is no kudos to be thrown to Wojo. He fooked up major in mishandling the entire fiasco. What the hell did he learn sitting next to K all those years? He let a campfire escalate to a forest fire.

Disagree doc.  Takes two to tango.  No one in 100% to blame.  That doesn’t mean 50-50 either, but I am glad to see the rest of the team rallying at this point.   It makes 0% sense that these two were willing to stay and play for this coach if one other guy left.  That tells me it isn’t all on the coach, but partially on them, too.  Shame....but life goes on.  I will back the guys that have MU on the front of the jersey.

[Galway Eagle]

Disagree doc.  Takes two to tango.  No one in 100% to blame.  That doesn’t mean 50-50 either, but I am glad to see the rest of the team rallying at this point.   It makes 0% sense that these two were willing to stay and play for this coach if one other guy left.  That tells me it isn’t all on the coach, but partially on them, too.  Shame....but life goes on.  I will back the guys that have MU on the front of the jersey.

The Jerseys says Marquette on the front...

[tower912]

If the BEPOY/Second team All-American leaves, we'll stay and play for you, coach.

[Cheeks]

Whom he reportedly did not want to play with.  Because of ball hogging tendencies.

Feels like a guy who was the man in a small town in Wisconsin and wanted to remain that way and didn’t realize he was going up in weight class.  I can only hope in a few years he will mature and recognize it, but it will be somewhere else.


I expect to read quotes from him in future saying that he didn’t have the maturity at 18, didn’t realize how hard this was going to be, made some decisions maybe he shouldn’t have but life isn’t perfect path. 

[Cheeks]

If the BEPOY/Second team All-American leaves, we'll stay and play for you, coach.

Yup, makes zero sense but this is what the Wojo haters are essentially saying.

[muguru]

You guys are all so naive, and believe everything you see online. Smh...Joey was NOT the reason for the transfer(s).

[4th and State]

Does anyone know who the player Markus allegedly called out after the Murray State game is?

[Galway Eagle]

You guys are all so naive, and believe everything you see online. Smh...Joey was NOT the reason for the transfer(s).

You see the irony there'd be if people believed you because you wrote this right?

[Herman Cain]

Could see that, whether or not it was ever truly discussed openly. Unfortunately Joey had nowhere near the handle of Henry (which to my recollection was not a high bar to set)

Henry was a tremendous College Basketball Player . He averaged 17 and 10 as a freshman. If our Coach would have disciplined him to play within a team concept ( which meant he would have been more of a post player ), he probably would have been in the 21-12 type category . That said ,Joey actually has the shot that Henry has been trying obtain .

[Jockey]

The think is, if you ponder it, the two narratives have more in common than in opposition.   Especially if you add in what we witnessed.   Joey was visibly frustrated as far back as November with not getting the ball when/where he wanted it.    He already thinks Markus is a ballhog.    Then Markus has the gall to tell HIM to get tougher.   Which Wojo reinforces publicly.    Joey becomes convinced that Markus is getting preferential treatment, and the feeling grows as Joey goes through the frustrations of freshman year.   If you think back over the games, how often did you see Joey frustrated about not getting the ball?    It grows.    A feeling of being betrayed by the coach.   Markus and hero ball.   Winning at Georgetown without Markus.     A losing streak.    A letter.    An ultimatum.    A return and then two departures.   
    The two narratives intertwine.   A few details diverge, as they always do.    Who signed the letter, was the team more upset with Markus or Joey?     Different perspectives, possibly both with truth.     

In the end, no detente could be reached.   And I do think that Joey will go on to be as good as his brother.    Though I am still skeptical either gets more than a 10-day in the league.    And it is entirely possible he comes back in a couple of years healthy and torches MU on the court.    Or not.    Can't be helped now.

There’s really only one way to deal with unhappy people. See ya’.

I remember reading an article by a CEO who was constantly praised for the good attitude of his employees. He said he listened to their complaints, implemented what they asked for, and went out of his way to placate them. Result? No change.

So he fired the unhappy people and those with bad attitudes and hired people who were happier. That’s all it took to change the culture of the company.

In other words, good riddance, Joey.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

This reeks of a PR “leak.”

[79Warrior]

Feels like a guy who was the man in a small town in Wisconsin and wanted to remain that way and didn’t realize he was going up in weight class.  I can only hope in a few years he will mature and recognize it, but it will be somewhere else.


I expect to read quotes from him in future saying that he didn’t have the maturity at 18, didn’t realize how hard this was going to be, made some decisions maybe he shouldn’t have but life isn’t perfect path.

Plenty of kids come from small towns and adjust just fine.

[Loose Cannon]

Just for full credit and citation, this originated over on Dodd's board.

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Reply/hackleft-Reply-131752410/

Good for you Rocky, nice move.

[WarriorDad]

Henry was a tremendous College Basketball Player . He averaged 17 and 10 as a freshman. If our Coach would have disciplined him to play within a team concept ( which meant he would have been more of a post player ), he probably would have been in the 21-12 type category . That said ,Joey actually has the shot that Henry has been trying obtain .

Henry had his own ambitions which were to audition for the NBA scouts.

[MU82]

You guys are all so naive, and believe everything you see online. Smh...Joey was NOT the reason for the transfer(s).

Says the guy who constantly makes statements that the rest of us are supposed to believe.

Which doesn't put you in the minority, guru, we all do it. But you are calling folks out for doing exactly what you do.

And I seriously doubt that you know exactly what happened here, either.

The obvious conclusion is that Wojo, as the CEO, gets a huge chunk of blame for letting a situation blow up, AND the Hausers fanned the flames of discontent to play a major role in the breakup of a potentially good team.

They quit Marquette. They are F%ckies now. Screw 'em.

[Loose Cannon]

In my experience in the workworld and in athletics, you can't make everyone happy.  Joey was unhappy playing 30 minutes a game as a freshman on a 24 win team. 

Sometimes people will never be happy until they are somewhere else,.

Yep, I think Coach K had a similar problem with Rasheed Sulaimon.

[bilsu]

There is no kudos to be thrown to Wojo. He fooked up major in mishandling the entire fiasco. What the hell did he learn sitting next to K all those years? He let a campfire escalate to a forest fire.

What do you think Wojo could of actually done. He could of benched Joey and Joey would of transferred anyway. His only choice was to let Joey play through it. Wojo runs his offense through his guards. The guards shoot and that is what he wants.

Somebody said Joey wanted to go to Wisconsin, but his dad said he had to play with Sam. I have no idea if this is true, but maybe Joey never really wanted to be here. To me the majority of the problem is with the father. He is telling the boys what to do, he is apparently fighting with Markus's father. He tells Sam he has to stick with family. He tells his sons to write a letter. He is upset when Wojo does not stick up for his 6'8" & 6'9" sons when they get in a shoving match with a 5'11" player.

I do not think there is much Wojo could of done to change the final outcome.

[WarriorHal]

Somebody said Joey wanted to go to Wisconsin, but his dad said he had to play with Sam. I have no idea if this is true, but maybe Joey never really wanted to be here. To me the majority of the problem is with the father. He is telling the boys what to do, he is apparently fighting with Markus's father. He tells Sam he has to stick with family. He tells his sons to write a letter. He is upset when Wojo does not stick up for his 6'8" & 6'9" sons when they get in a shoving match with a 5'11" player.

I do not think there is much Wojo could of done to change the final outcome.

The TV broadcasts throughout the season often showed the Hauser parents in the stands at home games and even some -- maybe many -- road games. Stevens Point is 155 miles from Milwaukee -- not exactly down the block. I assume the father has a job. How do you find time to do all that traveling? And it isn't cheap. Along with everything the father allegedly did, he (they) seem like stereotypical helicopter parents taken to the extreme.  A redo of Maymon’s father.

[MU82]

What do you think Wojo could of actually done. He could of benched Joey and Joey would of transferred anyway. His only choice was to let Joey play through it. Wojo runs his offense through his guards. The guards shoot and that is what he wants.

Somebody said Joey wanted to go to Wisconsin, but his dad said he had to play with Sam. I have no idea if this is true, but maybe Joey never really wanted to be here. To me the majority of the problem is with the father. He is telling the boys what to do, he is apparently fighting with Markus's father. He tells Sam he has to stick with family. He tells his sons to write a letter. He is upset when Wojo does not stick up for his 6'8" & 6'9" sons when they get in a shoving match with a 5'11" player.

I do not think there is much Wojo could of done to change the final outcome.

Daddy and Mommy H did not emerge from this looking great IMHO.

[dbwarriors]

What do you think Wojo could of actually done. He could of benched Joey and Joey would of transferred anyway. His only choice was to let Joey play through it. Wojo runs his offense through his guards. The guards shoot and that is what he wants.

Somebody said Joey wanted to go to Wisconsin, but his dad said he had to play with Sam. I have no idea if this is true, but maybe Joey never really wanted to be here. To me the majority of the problem is with the father. He is telling the boys what to do, he is apparently fighting with Markus's father. He tells Sam he has to stick with family. He tells his sons to write a letter. He is upset when Wojo does not stick up for his 6'8" & 6'9" sons when they get in a shoving match with a 5'11" player.

I do not think there is much Wojo could of done to change the final outcome.

The word is “have” (not “of”).

[BM1090]

Everything I've heard indicates that the parents would have preferred them to stick it out at MU. This was the kids' decision.

[Newsdreams]

Everything I've heard indicates that the parents would have preferred them to stick it out at MU. This was the kids' decision.

Kids or kid, I go with kid...

[Jockey]

To the people here who place most or all of the blame on Wojo, I have a question:

Do you think it was Pop’s fault the Kawhi didn’t want to play in San Antonio? Kawhi basically did what Joey did to get out of town.