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Lets talk St Johns
« on: April 18, 2019, 05:31:25 PM »
Even if only as a distraction from our own problems.  Now turned down by their 3rd choice the Loyola coach Tim Cluess.  OMG that program is in trouble.   I guess at least Wojo won't have to worry about beating them next year.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 05:37:51 PM »
St Johns is a dumpster fire. This was breaking news in 1999.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 05:51:24 PM »
Quote from: #UnleashCain on April 18, 2019, 05:37:51 PM
St Johns is a dumpster fire. This was breaking news in 1999.

They really need someone with celebrity power to lockup NYC talent, but who can actually coach.  It will never be Pitino. So, I was thinking...what about a guy who is synonymous with New York like Stephon Marbury? 

Then I saw some outtakes from his recent Twitter war with Doug Gottlieb...omg there is some funny content there. If people think Penny Hardaway is outspoken with the Memphis media, just imagine Starbury mixing it up with the New York media...

I’m not saying he would ever be a candidate anywhere, but desperate times....
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 05:52:30 PM »
I think St.Johns should reach out to Mark Jackson. He was a winning coach in the NBA.  If he is willing to get back into coaching, he might be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again . He has the name recognition and New York pedigree that could go a long way.

Mullin had one big achievement, he brought the Thug element back to the St. Johns games. In some schools that would be a bad thing, but in Queens it is actually a prestige factor. Gave credibility to certain kinds of recruits.

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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 05:53:46 PM »
Quote from: #UnleashCain on April 18, 2019, 05:37:51 PM
St Johns is a dumpster fire. This was breaking news in 1999.
Well...the dumpster fire has spread to us.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2019, 05:54:26 PM »
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 18, 2019, 05:52:30 PM
I think St.Johns should reach out to Mark Jackson. He was a winning coach in the NBA.  If he is willing to get back into coaching, he might be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again . He has the name recognition and New York pedigree that could go a long way.

Mullin had one big achievement, he brought the Thug element back to the St. Johns games. In some schools that would be a bad thing, but in Queens it is actually a prestige factor. Gave credibility to certain kinds of recruits.

Omg, Mark Jackson is an excellent choice. I was brainstorming and can’t believe I didn’t think of him...very level-headed guy. Instant respect in NYC.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2019, 05:54:57 PM »
So far they've been turned down by Bobby Hurley, Porter Moser, Ryan Odom, and Tim Cluess. There were rumors James Jones from Yale could be named today, but nothing so far as more candidates come into the picture. Here are other names I've heard of late:

  • Frank Haith: (Tulsa HC) 15 years as a coach at 3 different jobs. He has 1 NCAA victory in 4 appearances & has been in hot water with the NCAA before.
  • Paul Hewitt: (LA Clipper Scout) Would've been a hot name in 2004 after he was NCAA Tournament runner-up, but a deeper dive shows that was his only winning conference season in 11 years at Georgia Tech & while he had early success at George Mason, he went 20-42 in his last two seasons.
  • Mike Boynton: (Oklahoma State HC) Boynton was a long-time assistant who led OSU to the NIT last year before a 12-20 season this year. Probably not the most inspired hire.
  • Rick Pitino: (Panathinaikos HC) We all know Rick Porcini, who oversaw a tidal wave of NCAA investigations at Louisville. Many New Yorkers & a few St. John's players are calling for him to come back, though Pitino said he would only do it if the Southern District of New York issued an apology & exoneration for him. No, seriously he made that demand.
  • Mike Anderson: (Unemployed) He has gone to 9 NCAA Tournaments in 17 seasons at 3 different jobs, with another 3 NIT appearances. Recently fired from Arkansas & has no real ties to New York.
  • Sam Newberry: (Anonymous Eagle Podcaster) He's appealed for the job & would likely appreciate it if you could help get the #samnewberrytostjohns hashtag going.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2019, 05:55:35 PM »
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 18, 2019, 05:52:30 PM
I think St.Johns should reach out to Mark Jackson. He was a winning coach in the NBA.  If he is willing to get back into coaching, he might be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again . He has the name recognition and New York pedigree that could go a long way.

Mullin had one big achievement, he brought the Thug element back to the St. Johns games. In some schools that would be a bad thing, but in Queens it is actually a prestige factor. Gave credibility to certain kinds of recruits.

Lol
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2019, 06:00:17 PM »
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 18, 2019, 05:52:30 PM
I think St.Johns should reach out to Mark Jackson. He was a winning coach in the NBA.  If he is willing to get back into coaching, he might be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again . He has the name recognition and New York pedigree that could go a long way.

Mullin had one big achievement, he brought the Thug element back to the St. Johns games. In some schools that would be a bad thing, but in Queens it is actually a prestige factor. Gave credibility to certain kinds of recruits.

Reading today's New Haven Register, apparently the Yale coach, James Jones, has interviewed.

The same article said since he was told he's not a candidate, Rick Pitino is pushing for St. John's to hire Mark Jackson.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2019, 06:08:33 PM »
Word that Paul Hewitt has been talked to. The guy who last coached George Mason to 9-22 record in 2015.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2019, 06:12:18 PM »
I'll give them this, they are making that DePaul process that started with Hurley & Drew and ended with Leitao look smooth.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2019, 06:56:06 PM »
Quote from: willie warrior on April 18, 2019, 05:53:46 PM
Well...the dumpster fire has spread to us.

Marquette dumpster fire since 2019
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2019, 07:06:52 PM »
Tim is the iona coach not Loyola. REPORT BETTER next time
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2019, 07:22:02 PM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 18, 2019, 06:08:33 PM
Word that Paul Hewitt has been talked to. The guy who last coached George Mason to 9-22 record in 2015.

Dude makes Porter Moser look like Coach K.

Realized today, St John’s program hasn’t won an NCAA game since they built dorms on campus which prevented them from giving generous housing subsidies (equal to local housing costs) to players. That kept tons of local kids from NY in the area.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2019, 09:04:43 PM »
Quote from: JWags85 on April 18, 2019, 07:22:02 PM
Dude makes Porter Moser look like Coach K.

Realized today, St John’s program hasn’t won an NCAA game since they built dorms on campus which prevented them from giving generous housing subsidies (equal to local housing costs) to players. That kept tons of local kids from NY in the area.
This is a very astute observation.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2019, 10:28:09 PM »
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 18, 2019, 05:52:30 PM
I think St.Johns should reach out to Mark Jackson. He was a winning coach in the NBA.  If he is willing to get back into coaching, he might be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again . He has the name recognition and New York pedigree that could go a long way.

Mullin had one big achievement, he brought the Thug element back to the St. Johns games. In some schools that would be a bad thing, but in Queens it is actually a prestige factor. Gave credibility to certain kinds of recruits.

Jackson is still bitter they passed him over in 2010. Funny thing is that Hewitt turned SJ down in 2010 (actually, his wife vetoed it).

Why would Jackson have been better than a Mullin? Same pedigree.

Looks like it’s going to be Anderson. Very good hire considering the circumstances.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2019, 10:44:55 PM »
Does this say more about st John's or the big east? The people on the Nova board are much more pessimistic about this conference than the rest of us. Cant blame them. Without them we'd be the mvc
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2019, 10:45:26 PM »
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2019, 10:28:09 PM
Jackson is still bitter they passed him over in 2010. Funny thing is that Hewitt turned SJ down in 2010 (actually, his wife vetoed it).

Why would Jackson have been better than a Mullin? Same pedigree.

Looks like it’s going to be Anderson. Very good hire considering the circumstances.

Mark Jackson at least has coaching experience. Mullin was only in the front office. Granted, other than LeBron, Mark Jackson is the only person to slow down the Warriors over the past 5 years.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2019, 10:50:49 PM »
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 18, 2019, 10:28:09 PM
Jackson is still bitter they passed him over in 2010. Funny thing is that Hewitt turned SJ down in 2010 (actually, his wife vetoed it).

Why would Jackson have been better than a Mullin? Same pedigree.

Looks like it’s going to be Anderson. Very good hire considering the circumstances.

Did the just spin the wheel of recently fired P6 coaches and come up with Anderson? Seems pretty random
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2019, 10:56:14 PM »
Quote from: JWags85 on April 18, 2019, 10:50:49 PM
Did the just spin the wheel of recently fired P6 coaches and come up with Anderson? Seems pretty random

Very random for sure. But, the guy has won everywhere. No losing seasons as a head coach, 9 tourney appearances in 17 seasons. Weird firing at Arkansas this year too. SJ upgraded in terms of coaching ability but still looks bad overall.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2019, 03:03:08 AM »
I really like Anderson.  Did a great job at UAB n Missouri. 
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2019, 06:48:16 AM »
The Johnnies make a solid hire.  Has a lot of work to do now to build a roster.
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2019, 07:00:36 AM »
Quote from: willie warrior on April 18, 2019, 05:53:46 PM
Well...the dumpster fire has spread to us.


And know won has an extinguisher, aina?
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2019, 07:07:58 AM »
I don't think this is a terrible hire, but he really stopped progressing at Arkansas about five years ago and has no ties to the New York area.  He will have to hire a good recruiter. 
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Re: Lets talk St Johns
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2019, 08:34:10 AM »
A hiring of Mike Anderson would go a loooong way in saving face. That’s a really good hire and seems like a great fit for recruiting that part of the country
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