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D'Lo Brown

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2019, 03:07:19 PM »
Is there a compendium somewhere of all coaches that are unlikable?

Seriously though, if you made a graph with a coach's likability on the x-axis and their success on the y-axis, you would get something that looks like this:



My suspicion is that you are well aware of this, you just needed to rant. Which is fine, but, it is well-known that many of the best coaches are not likable, personable, or funny in any way. These kinds of traits are not predictive of success for coaches in any major sport, at all. And this isn't just my own opinion.
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2019, 03:15:13 PM »
Spot on crash.

He’s as soft as they come.  I have witnessed it in person for myself. (No I don’t mean when he’s stomping and jumping on the court like a toddler when things are falling apart)

Maybe in the presser this year he can use the “we’re young crutch, and we’ve played nova and Xavier twice and we don’t get foul shots like other teams”

Cut ties, and move on.

Glad to hear he reinstated his twitter account.  Everyone be nice now.

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2019, 03:21:37 PM »
Wojo is back on Twitter? Has he shared any pearls of wisdom?

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2019, 03:41:29 PM »
Keep in mind, there is enough evidence that this insurrection was more than just the Hausers, they are just the most visible in this.


Evidence?  I have seen no evidence - only conjecture and hearsay.
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2019, 04:14:49 PM »
I'm just glad to see that those 12 or so hours of philosophy that was required has been put to good use by the members of Scoop. 

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2019, 04:16:51 PM »
I'm just glad to see that those 12 or so hours of philosophy that was required has been put to good use by the members of Scoop. 


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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2019, 04:17:03 PM »
Wojo is back on Twitter? Has he shared any pearls of wisdom?

No, it was the official MU b-ball twitter account that tweeted about him watching film. Like that’s something to be pumped about...
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2019, 04:32:10 PM »
No, it was the official MU b-ball twitter account that tweeted about him watching film. Like that’s something to be pumped about...
Must be nice to have a full and talented roster so that you don't have to spend time recruiting and can watch re-runs on TV. ;)

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2019, 05:16:51 PM »
Philosophy puns! I love it! This is why I just can't quit scoop
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2019, 05:57:06 PM »
Reading through the 'analyses' posted here I note that the single most important comment on Wojo is being overlooked: a range of constituencies within the MU MBB circle all note that Wojo is inflexible, rigid, aloof, and worst of all, patronizing. The man has a hubris which makes him unlikable.

In the most recent case with the Hausers, Wojo's condescension and patronizing manner destroyed any chance of salvaging what was a very manageable situation.

When stakeholders come to a leader and say here is a problem that we need to fix, and actually offer constructive input designed to address the issue, it is incumbent on leadership to engage in meaningful dialogue.

If stakeholders are dismissed with trite platitudes they have every right to be upset.

This dynamic holds true in politics, business, the military, and college basketball teams. It applies to any collective organization established to accomplish a specific set of objectives.

Leadership can have quantitative scientific dimensions but it is overwhelmingly qualitative art.

The bottom line is that the real issue at play is Wojo is a terrible leader. He is running a multi-million dollar enterprise that involves managing political and business interests.

When any stakeholder comes to you with a problem you listen and do something about it. Even if the course of action is contrary to what the stakeholder wants you still manage it.

What is particularly egregious here is that the Hausers were acutely critical to the future course of the enterprise. To patronize one of your most important constituents is beyond ridiculous.

Unfortunately, leadership is mostly art that some people will never master. Frankly, I think Wojo is not particularly bright and will never transform into the CEO he needs to be.
I agree with this analysis.
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2019, 06:41:42 PM »
I'd argue it's much more relevant whether the team/coach/program can rebound from this setback and have a good next season.

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2019, 06:59:12 PM »
Evidence?  I have seen no evidence - only conjecture and hearsay.

I've seen the evidence....there were multiple players beyond the Hausers that were upset/talked out of leaving.
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2019, 07:30:41 PM »
Philosophy puns! I love it! This is why I just can't quit scoop

Ah, the only question is “Dewey win next year or Dewey not.”

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2019, 07:38:18 PM »
I think Crash is 100% correct that Wojo is not a great leader if what we are hearing is correct(even if we're off by +/-50% in the story). Even if the Hausers' are the biggest babies ever there are ways to manage that with the other demands of the other players as well. Keep in mind, there is enough evidence that this insurrection was more than just the Hausers, they are just the most visible in this.

No matter how you slice it, Wojo failed at a leadership level here, what remains to be seen is if he can learn and/or recover from it.

I just re watched the St. John’s post game interview at the BEast tourney—it was weird at the time.  Now makes more sense. 

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2019, 07:56:36 PM »
All this back and forth about who is to blame sure is Confuc-ing
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2019, 07:59:49 PM »
All this back and forth about who is to blame sure is Confuc-ing

Yep. like fighters that have Punched themselves out.
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2019, 08:12:20 PM »
I just re watched the St. John’s post game interview at the BEast tourney—it was weird at the time.  Now makes more sense.

Talking about when Sacar randomly left? I totally forgot about that. Definitely gives a different spin to it now.

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« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2019, 08:18:51 PM »
Talking about when Sacar randomly left? I totally forgot about that. Definitely gives a different spin to it now.

Yup. But there is more — outside influencers— references to the players.  The part after the weird reporter just complimented Wojo for 45 secs was interesting. 

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2019, 08:23:17 PM »
I've seen the evidence....there were multiple players beyond the Hausers that were upset/talked out of leaving.

So they will be transferring, right?

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2019, 08:37:03 PM »
Yep. like fighters that have Punched themselves out.

We Buddha use some of this Wojo discussion to increase the level of kindness on the board.
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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2019, 08:42:28 PM »
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2019, 08:46:57 PM »
We Buddha use some of this Wojo discussion to increase the level of kindness on the board.

That pun was pretty forced. But I will aLao-Tzu to get it away with it.
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« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2019, 09:17:04 PM »
So they will be transferring, right?

I don't think they will, but its not outside the realm of possibility
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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2019, 09:24:57 PM »
We Buddha use some of this Wojo discussion to increase the level of kindness on the board.

The Buddha's first sermon was on Duhkha. Maybe he talked about this week inside the MU program.

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Re: What is really relevant
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2019, 09:32:46 PM »
I don't think they will, but its not outside the realm of possibility

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