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MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 15, 2019, 02:48:57 PM
I believe I understand what you are saying, but to say this is not on Wojo is disingenuous. Wojo or any head coach would share in responsibility for what happened. 
Has NOTHING TO DO with Wojo....stop it.

And if it style of play, he would change that with a competent PG. Chartouny was useless and thy really missed not having Greg Elliott and that Koby McEwen kid...time for them to step up now.

I am excited...

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 15, 2019, 03:09:08 PM
If it's 1), that's poor teamwork on the Hausers.
If it's 2), why did it take 3 years for Sam to figure out?

In regards to #2, thats why I think #1 makes the most sense.  As stupid as it may be. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on April 15, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
Has NOTHING TO DO with Wojo....stop it.

And if it style of play, he would change that with a competent PG. Chartouny was useless and thy really missed not having Greg Elliott and that Koby McEwen kid...time for them to step up now.

I am excited...

I mean its definitely partially on Wojo to explain to these kids why transferring isn't the right decision that he would do X, Y and Z to ease their concerns. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

ChitownSpaceForRent

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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2019, 03:10:48 PM
In regards to #2, thats why I think #1 makes the most sense.  As stupid as it may be.

Who was here in year 3 that wasn't here in year one or two?

Think about it. Sam was option 4 or 5 his Freshman year depending on how you look at Katin, was option 3 as a sophomore and option 2 last year.

I can't ever remember Sam never seeming upset about his role.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: burger on April 15, 2019, 03:05:12 PM
Whatever reason you want to use......

And the possibilities are probably 5 to 10.....

The underlying issues always have to come back to Wojo.....

What recruit in 2020 will want to come here......

This is a Wojo firing moment.....


You have to protect the program now.....

+1 others have said it today, but i would rather be a year early than a year late. Next year's team is a fringe top 25 team. the following year has a ton of holes to fill. Lets pull this band aid off now and start the rebuild...again. >:(

BM1090

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on April 15, 2019, 03:12:28 PM
+1 others have said it today, but i would rather be a year early than a year late. Next year's team is a fringe top 25 team. the following year has a ton of holes to fill. Lets pull this band aid off now and start the rebuild...again. >:(

I disagree. We might as well ride out this year and see if it takes us somewhere. See if it leads to a big 2020 recruiting class. If it doesn't then cut ties at the end of the year and your rebuilding process was only delayed one year. It's not like there are lots of hot candidates to go after right now anyways.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 15, 2019, 03:11:49 PM
Who was here in year 3 that wasn't here in year one or two.

No one I would think would matter to the Hauser's in this decision.  Brendan, Koby and Joe C would the only ones.  They've never played a game with Koby, Joe C is gone, and can't imagine Brendan would have any bearing on this whatsoever, so not sure where you're going with this one. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2019, 03:18:02 PM
No one I would think would matter to the Hauser's in this decision.  Brendan, Koby and Joe C would the only ones.  They've never played a game with Koby, Joe C is gone, and can't imagine Brendan would have any bearing on this whatsoever, so not sure where you're going with this one.

I'm talking Joey. Just edited the last post.

The Sultan

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2019, 03:18:02 PM
No one I would think would matter to the Hauser's in this decision.  Brendan, Koby and Joe C would the only ones.  They've never played a game with Koby, Joe C is gone, and can't imagine Brendan would have any bearing on this whatsoever, so not sure where you're going with this one. 


That Joey is the primary one who is unhappy because Sam seemed fine in years one and two.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Fred Garvin

I believe Bailey will be a better player then Joey,I really believe Joey would lose minutes ri him next year

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on April 15, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
I am excited...




With all sincerity, I admire your optimism.  I really hope you're right.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on April 15, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
Has NOTHING TO DO with Wojo....stop it.

And if it style of play, he would change that with a competent PG. Chartouny was useless and thy really missed not having Greg Elliott and that Koby McEwen kid...time for them to step up now.

I am excited...
Agree to disagree. I think Wojo would even accept some responsibility for this situation.

I'm glad your excited....can we finally evaluate Wojo by the quality of the team he puts on the court? At the end of the day, if he can put MU in a S16 with all 1 star recruits, I'll be happy. Just tired of 5 years of excuses.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Maybe in exit interviews Wojo told Joey  he was getting beaten out by Bailey, who's a far better defensive player?

MU_CHI

Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on April 15, 2019, 03:24:46 PM
I believe Bailey will be a better player then Joey,I really believe Joey would lose minutes ri him next year

What about this season gave you any indication that Brendan will be better than Joey. That's preposterous. Was it Brendan's 25% 3P FG %?

TallTitan34

Quote from: MU_CHI on April 15, 2019, 03:27:22 PM
What about this season gave you any indication that Brendan will be better than Joey. That's preposterous. Was it Brendan's 25% 3P FG %?

Brendan played great defense and took alot of Joey's minutes by doing so.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on April 15, 2019, 03:17:03 PM
I disagree. We might as well ride out this year and see if it takes us somewhere. See if it leads to a big 2020 recruiting class. If it doesn't then cut ties at the end of the year and your rebuilding process was only delayed one year. It's not like there are lots of hot candidates to go after right now anyways.

True, i guess it would also give us some time to start working the back channels on a coaching search.

NotAnAlum

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on April 15, 2019, 03:12:28 PM
+1 others have said it today, but i would rather be a year early than a year late. Next year's team is a fringe top 25 team. the following year has a ton of holes to fill. Lets pull this band aid off now and start the rebuild...again. >:(
Hire WHO.  Have you watched what St John's is going through.  We had to make a late season hire when Rick M left.  No thanks.  We ride this out but next year if Wojo doesn't deliver you fire him during the yearly coach derby.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on April 15, 2019, 03:29:31 PM
True, i guess it would also give us some time to start working the back channels on a coaching search.
Agree with this.

Warrior1969

Yes SAM was happy in year one and two.  That is why Joey came.  Year three was different, Markus was different, if you cannot see that then you are blind.

MU_CHI

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 15, 2019, 03:28:29 PM
Brendan played great defense and took alot of Joey's minutes by doing so.

Great seems like an overstatement. He was a liability for the most part on offense and Joey was a much better rebounder, as well. I understand we're trying to find a silver lining but to project Brendan as a better player is crazy to me.

mug644

If having a true PG would help solve the problem, then the Hausers are leaving as help is coming. With Joe C not living up to potential, and Greg going down to injury, Howard was forced to playing PG. With Koby becoming eligible, Greg healed and (possibly) Torrence coming, their is a higher likelihood for Howard to play off the ball more often.

Pakuni

Quote from: MU_CHI on April 15, 2019, 03:27:22 PM
What about this season gave you any indication that Brendan will be better than Joey. That's preposterous. Was it Brendan's 25% 3P FG %?

I don't know if Brendan will be better, but it's not preposterous.
He's longer, more athletic, handles the ball better and is a FAR better defender. He missed two years of competitive hoops, so the shooting percentage could be an anomaly.

Jockey

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 15, 2019, 02:49:55 PM
Great, that's fine but Joey couldn't dribble without turning the ball over last year.

Me thinks Joey may be slightly overestimating his ability.

Joey should become a pretty good college player, but he would have been lucky to get 10+ minutes a game as a freshman had he gone to Michigan State.

Jay Bee

Joey is a pro. Sorry, guys
The portal is NOT closed.

The Sultan

Quote from: mug644 on April 15, 2019, 03:39:08 PM
If having a true PG would help solve the problem, then the Hausers are leaving as help is coming. With Joe C not living up to potential, and Greg going down to injury, Howard was forced to playing PG. With Koby becoming eligible, Greg healed and (possibly) Torrence coming, their is a higher likelihood for Howard to play off the ball more often.


I think the point is that the Hausers didn't think Wojo would let that happen.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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