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Author Topic: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris  (Read 5687 times)

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Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« on: April 15, 2019, 01:00:53 PM »
https://www.apnews.com/73404d09773740f699d4b92933abec50

I was just there in November... What a tragic loss.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2019, 01:33:44 PM »
Normally I'd say ND sucks, but not in regards to the Cathedral.

From video, looks like renovations were going on.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2019, 01:40:57 PM »
Yes, initial reports are it is a "construction accident" and not a terrorist attack on Holy Week.

Saying it is a total loss.  Thankfully no reports of injuries.  Fearing the loss of the artwork ... will be incalculable.

AP also reporting that thousands of Parisians are on the scene, so many it is hampering rescue efforts.  Many are upset and crying.

awful, no words.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2019, 01:55:46 PM »
How can a church that is primarily made of stone be a total loss in a fire? Agree with you on the loss of artwork though
« Last Edit: April 15, 2019, 01:59:41 PM by Coleman »
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2019, 02:11:43 PM »
Quote from: Coleman on April 15, 2019, 01:55:46 PM
How can a church that is primarily made of stone be a total loss in a fire? Agree with you on the loss of artwork though

Primarily made up of wood and Oak.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2019, 02:16:20 PM »
And the Crown Thorns only come out for Holy Week.  Unbelievable.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2019, 02:18:33 PM »
Quote from: Coleman on April 15, 2019, 01:55:46 PM
How can a church that is primarily made of stone be a total loss in a fire? Agree with you on the loss of artwork though

Because its not made of just stone.  This is sort of like asking how a building that is made primarily out of steel can be a total loss when it burns.

We aren't talking about the entire thing being a pile of goo on the ground.  We are talking about the windows, the artwork, the relics, and items that are now ashes.  Sure they bones may survive, but in our lifetimes that building will never look like it did yesterday.

That is what makes it a total loss.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2019, 02:18:45 PM »
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 15, 2019, 02:11:43 PM
Primarily made up of wood and Oak.

Very flammable....the deadly combination of wood and Oak
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 02:20:24 PM »
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 15, 2019, 01:40:57 PM
Yes, initial reports are it is a "construction accident"

How much would it suck to be the construction worker who burned down Notre Dame?
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2019, 02:20:56 PM »
It'll be immediately restored, but will also never be the same again.  Huge loss.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2019, 02:21:09 PM »
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 15, 2019, 02:18:33 PM
Because its not made of just stone.  This is sort of like asking how a building that is made primarily out of steel can be a total loss when it burns.

We aren't talking about the entire thing being a pile of goo on the ground.  We are talking about the windows, the artwork, the relics, and items that are now ashes.  Sure they bones may survive, but in our lifetimes that building will never look like it did yesterday.

That is what makes it a total loss.

Got it. Thanks. It was a sincere question. This helps.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2019, 02:30:52 PM »
The Cathedral is owned by the Government of France.  The Catholic church has a permanent lease and responsible for its upkeep.

So its "landlord" is the French Government.  Presumably, they will shoulder the cost of rebuilding.

Also, the questions about why the Cathedral was allowed to fall in such disrepair (which it was) will fall to the "landlord" again.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2019, 02:52:19 PM »
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 15, 2019, 02:30:52 PM
The Cathedral is owned by the Government of France.  The Catholic church has a permanent lease and responsible for its upkeep.

So its "landlord" is the French Government.  Presumably, they will shoulder the cost of rebuilding.

Also, the questions about why the Cathedral was allowed to fall in such disrepair (which it was) will fall to the "landlord" again.

Absolutely true.  I'm not sure placing blame is worth the air it costs to talk about it.  It would be amazing if the entire world would band together to repair and restore this invaluable piece of cultural history.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2019, 02:55:07 PM »
We took the kids to Paris in August.  My wife had a friend who has lived in Paris ~8 years, and she met us at the train station, took us to our hotel, then walked us around.

We got to Notre Dame and she said, "Hey, I used to be a tour guide here, want a tour?"  The line looked long (and it was 95 degrees) but she correctly told us it moved quickly.

She took us all through the church, giving her tour guide spiel, and even got our kids involved and interested.   It was a total gift.

To see the place up in flames today .. heartbreaking.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2019, 02:55:24 PM »
Interior ministry officials are saying that they may not be able to save the cathedral at all.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2019, 03:00:16 PM »
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 15, 2019, 02:55:07 PM
We took the kids to Paris in August.  My wife had a friend who has lived in Paris ~8 years, and she met us at the train station, took us to our hotel, then walked us around.

We got to Notre Dame and she said, "Hey, I used to be a tour guide here, want a tour?"  The line looked long (and it was 95 degrees) but she correctly told us it moved quickly.

She took us all through the church, giving her tour guide spiel, and even got our kids involved and interested.   It was a total gift.

To see the place up in flames today .. heartbreaking.

This really is just awful.  I've always wanted to see Notre Dame.  And now it's gone.  I know that this is a totally selfish and self-centered take, but I'm just so disappointed that I'll never get to see it.  It's a very strange thing for a landmark that is so famous to just be gone.  It survived revolution and world wars, and now...gone.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2019, 03:01:29 PM »
 
@CBSEveningNews

Among the relics inside Notre Dame Cathedral: "Pieces of the cross they believe that Jesus was crucified on, as well as part of the thorned crown that he had, as well as one of the nails from the crucifixion; their status is unknown right now."


Brutal, brutal.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2019, 03:06:14 PM »
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 15, 2019, 03:01:29 PM

@CBSEveningNews

Among the relics inside Notre Dame Cathedral: "Pieces of the cross they believe that Jesus was crucified on, as well as part of the thorned crown that he had, as well as one of the nails from the crucifixion; their status is unknown right now."


Brutal, brutal.

Immeasurable loss.  Eventually, people will realize that this is like if the Louvre were to catch fire.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2019, 03:24:46 PM »
Feels like The Police's Synchronicity II.  Many mile away a church  burns to the ground.  The symbolism with Marquette basketball.


A huge tragedy.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2019, 04:23:28 PM »
Quote from: Coleman on April 15, 2019, 01:55:46 PM
How can a church that is primarily made of stone be a total loss in a fire? Agree with you on the loss of artwork though

Uhhh, McCormick Place, 1967. The unburnable building that burned.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2019, 04:25:02 PM »
Looking like the towers and most of the main structures will be safe.

Priority is now saving artwork.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2019, 04:40:31 PM »
Quote from: Coleman on April 15, 2019, 04:25:02 PM
Looking like the towers and most of the main structures will be safe.

Priority is now saving artwork.

Just saw that as well.  Great news.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2019, 05:17:16 PM »
Of course the conspiracy nuts are having a field day.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2019, 05:30:27 PM »
So incredibly sad. A truly iconic and beautiful building.

The building will be restored, but it will never be quite the same. I can understand why Parisians are holding vigil near the scene.
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Re: Notre Dame Cathedral burning in Paris
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2019, 06:17:20 PM »
Quote from: Jockey on April 15, 2019, 05:17:16 PM
Of course the conspiracy nuts are having a field day.

They are conspiracy nuts.   Of course they are having a field day.   
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