Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions

[GoldenEagle323]

I doubt we will be ranked #7 to start the season

[The Lens]

Honestly, where the hell do u think Marcus is gonna go?  He is no where near a pro.  Prolly not even a D leaguer, how many kids leave cuz its their life long dream to play in a lower level European league.  He is a poor mans Carsen Edwards n Edwards is a late second rounder.

Couldn't Markus make significant 6 figures in Europe?  Why would he be relegated to lower level competition.

[brewcity77]

Has anyone out there analyzed what the non-conference schedules are going to look like for the other 9 BE teams?  Because how many bids a conference gets is largely decided before Jan 1, and scheduling is key.

I'm not 100% on these, I'm assuming some home-and-home returns. DePaul thus far does not have an exempt tournament. This also does not include the Gavitt Games, which will add 8 total high-major games & should be released in about a month. Here's what I assume so far:

Butler (5)

@ Baylor (Big East/Big 12)
@ Mississippi
vs Florida
Hall of Fame Classic (2 of Missouri, Oklahoma, Stanford)

Creighton (4)

vs Oklahoma (Big East/Big 12)
vs Nebraska
Las Vegas Invitational (2 of Iowa, Texas Tech, San Diego State)

DePaul (3)

vs Texas Tech (Big East/Big 12)
vs Northwestern
@ Boston College

Georgetown (5)

@ Oklahoma State (Big East/Big 12)
@ SMU
vs Syracuse
Empire Classic (2 of Cal, Duke, Texas)

Marquette (5)

@ Kansas State (Big East/Big 12)
@ Wisconsin-Madison
Orlando Invitational (3 of Davidson, Fairfield, Harvard, Maryland, Temple, Texas A&M, USC)

Providence (7)

@ Massachusetts
@ Rhode Island
vs Texas (Big East/Big 12)
vs Boston College
Wooden Legacy (3 of Arizona, Charleston, Long Beach State, Penn, Pepperdine, UCF, Wake Forest)

Seton Hall (7)

@ Iowa State (Big East/Big 12)
@ St. Louis
@ Rutgers
vs Maryland
Battle 4 Atlantis (3 of Alabama, Gonzaga, Iowa State, Michigan, North Carolina, Oregon, Southern Miss)

St. John's (5)

vs West Virginia (Big East/Big 12)
vs 2 of Central Connecticut State, Columbia, Rider, Vermont (Air Force Reserve Campus Games)
Air Force Reserve Tip-Off (2 of Arizona State, UMass, Virginia)

Villanova (8)

@ Temple
@ St. Joseph's
vs Penn
vs La Salle
vs Kansas (Big East/Big 12)
Myrtle Beach Invitational (3 of Baylor, Coastal Carolina, Middle Tennessee State, Mississippi State, Ohio, Tulane, Utah)

Xavier (6)

@ TCU (Big East/Big 12)
vs Cincinnati
vs Missouri
Charleston Classic (3 of Buffalo, UConn, Florida, Miami, Missouri State, St. Joseph's, Towson)

[Its DJOver]

Doesn't Butler do the Crossroads Classic every year too?

[Tha Hound]

Bart's Rankings for 2020:

http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

#11, First in the Big East

I know we have been saying this forever, but how the hell would Madison be #12 right behind us after losing their only player? I just see absolutely no way they are that good next year.

[MUDPT]

Doesn't Butler do the Crossroads Classic every year too?

They would play Purdue next year, if it continues.

[genious expert]

I know we have been saying this forever, but how the hell would Madison be #12 right behind us after losing their only player? I just see absolutely no way they are that good next year.

Bart is a UW-Madison alum i'm pretty sure. He's definitely a Badger fan.
Looks like he is expecting their offense to get quite a bit better (#77 to #41) and the defense to stay the same (#5).
Who would've guessed that losing a 2nd team all american is actually good
Maybe we should try and convince Markus to leave?

[Loose Cannon]

Barring an extreme result in either direction, I really don't think it will be. If Howard comes back and we miss the tournament, that's a referendum moment. If we win the league & go to a Final Four, that's also a referendum moment. Otherwise, I feel like anything from 2nd-6th in league, any NCAA finish that ends the first or second weekend, we'll know little more than we do now other than Wojo can sustain what he's already created.

Yep, I think this is right.  Admin seems happy and not in a hurry.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Couldn't Markus make significant 6 figures in Europe?  Why would he be relegated to lower level competition.

Not sure Markus is quite good enough at this point to play at the top level of the Italian or Spanish leagues, where the good money is.  I belive tge only former MU player that is currently tgere is Diener n hes averaging 8? Points a game.  No Buycks, DJO, etc, they ate all in lesser leagues. 
I truly dont believe there is any decision to make.  He shot a crapload, he shot a decent percentage, but not great.  He did nothing else well.  That is not a pro.  Hes small, not overly strong or quick. Hes no where near a pro at this point. Shoot less pass more

[dgies9156]

Back on topic, if TSN is right and we're the seventh best team in the country, we have legit shot at a Natty. I'm surprised they rank Oregon that high and I don't buy that Virginia is "THAT" good.

If Herro stays, Kentucky should be number 1.

[Cheeks]

E8 or bust!!!!

Look at all the teams this year that were supposed to go to the E8 based on rankings or seeds.  Duke got two miracles and managed to get there. 

38% didn't make, but were "supposed" to

Tennessee didn't
North Carolina didn't
Michigan didn't

[Goose]

cheeks

#7, baby!!! The bar has been raised and exciting times ahead.

[dgies9156]

cheeks

#7, baby!!! The bar has been raised and exciting times ahead.

I sure as hell hope so.

[GooooMarquette]

Legit shot at a Final Four...and it's in Atlanta.

[tower912]

It isn't yet resolved who is going pro and where everyone is going to coach.     However, if MU returns everyone, Greg and Koby are who the optimists think they are, Sam and Joey get to have a healthy offseason, MU is going to be very dangerous.     

[Goose]

dgies

Every poster should be setting the bar extremely high for next season and see what happens. Pro Wojo guys should be licking their chops for next season to begin. I am hoping that I am sitting a year from now with egg all over my face.

[Cheeks]

dgies

Every poster should be setting the bar extremely high for next season and see what happens. Pro Wojo guys should be licking their chops for next season to begin. I am hoping that I am sitting a year from now with egg all over my face.

How high was the bat for Virginia set last year as a number seed?

They lost. People wanted to fire him.  Now they play for a national title.  Anything can happen in the tournament. 

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

How high was the bat for Virginia set last year as a number seed?

They lost. People wanted to fire him.  Now they play for a national title.  Anything can happen in the tournament.

Maybe 'people' did.  Most UVA alums I personally know were more worried about if tourney under-performance continued, at what point would it begin to impact recruiting.  But that's just an isolated group of folks I saw at a wedding.

[Goose]

cheeks

If they get #1 seed and lose the first weekend I would give them a pass. I'll take my chances with #1 seed any day of the week. Now, a 5-7 seed and home first weekend is not real appealing to me. Luckily, next year is the year that everything falls into place. Lets get the season started!!!!

[Tha Hound]

#4:

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/04/08/college-basketball-2019-2020-preseason-top-25/

[Goose]

#4, FF or bust!!

[jesmu84]

cheeks

#7, baby!!! The bar has been raised and exciting times ahead.

Do you always set your expectations for every program/coach based on pre-preseason opinion polls?

[Jockey]

NBC Sports has MU at #4 in their early poll for next year -assuming Howard returns.

[KampusFoods]

Do you always set your expectations for every program/coach based on pre-preseason opinion polls?

Fairly certain he is BS'ing with these comments. Goose is not a Wojo fan and has never been sold on the talent level in the program since he came on board (a legitimate gripe until this year, IMO).

[Goose]

jesmu

As a rule, I do not set expectations off of a way too early preseason poll, but making an exception this year. Since there has been a lot of hoopla over next season's team and 2020 recruiting, I am jumping on the bandwagon early. It has been since Buzz's last season that MU has had this type of "preseason" stature and may as well get jacked up over it.