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nyg

Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2019, 02:14:43 PM
Not necessarily. Depending on what's testified to during trial, those purported recordings may never be admitted into evidence. And subpoenaed or not, Miller may not testify. The Firth Amendment remains a viable (if not likely) option.

  An evidence hearing has probably already been heard considering trial month away.  Miller, even if subpoenaed can still sit on the stand and listen, but refuse to testify, which very seldom happens in court.  That would not be a good thing for him and his career would be over, tapes or no tapes. The tapes can be presented without Miller going on the stand and be introduced by either prosecution or defense witnesses.  Either way, the actual tapes have not been made public, everything is speculative, and if they do contain NCAA coaches incriminating themselves, they soon will be public in this trial.  Can't wait to hear the particulars of these case and that is when the walls start coming down.  Actual evidence.

avid1010

Quote from: warriorchick on March 19, 2019, 12:07:44 PM
And your basis for saying that is.....
because he isn't going pro because he can't get guaranteed nba $$$. 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2019, 02:34:37 PM
This....I'd bet dollars to donuts he pleads the 5th.
He may very well do that but even the most ardent UofA and Miller fan knows he will be fired for taking the 5th. Could be the right strategy to get a settlement with Arizona though.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 19, 2019, 12:35:13 PM
If Nico reopens his recruitment I would expect Stan and Wojo would be pushing hard to land him.

Nico being projected as a 1 and Done and Duke probably losing T Jones to the NBA he's going to where the Bells & Whistles are.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

Jon

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2019, 10:07:48 AM
Buzz had friends in the media to speculate on his behalf.

TC had has no friends so he had has to "leak" BS by himself.

Pakuni

Quote from: nyg on March 19, 2019, 02:36:39 PM
  An evidence hearing has probably already been heard considering trial month away.  Miller, even if subpoenaed can still sit on the stand and listen, but refuse to testify, which very seldom happens in court.  That would not be a good thing for him and his career would be over, tapes or no tapes. The tapes can be presented without Miller going on the stand and be introduced by either prosecution or defense witnesses.  Either way, the actual tapes have not been made public, everything is speculative, and if they do contain NCAA coaches incriminating themselves, they soon will be public in this trial.  Can't wait to hear the particulars of these case and that is when the walls start coming down.  Actual evidence.

no to drone on about legal stuff, but I wouldn't say it's seldom that a person implicated in a criminal conspiracy or portrayed as an unindicted co-conspirator takes the Fifth.
And I don't see how Miller's situation gets worse by invoking his Fifth Amendment right when the alternative is admitting he was paying players or perjuring himself. Of the three options, it's the least likely to not be a career-killer.
As for the tapes, it's worth noting that the government chose not to introduce the texts involving Self, but rather it was the defense, in an effort to downplay their client's involvement. Judging by that, the government may not want to introduce the purported Miller tapes.

nyg

Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2019, 04:26:50 PM
no to drone on about legal stuff, but I wouldn't say it's seldom that a person implicated in a criminal conspiracy or portrayed as an unindicted co-conspirator takes the Fifth.
And I don't see how Miller's situation gets worse by invoking his Fifth Amendment right when the alternative is admitting he was paying players or perjuring himself. Of the three options, it's the least likely to not be a career-killer.
As for the tapes, it's worth noting that the government chose not to introduce the texts involving Self, but rather it was the defense, in an effort to downplay their client's involvement. Judging by that, the government may not want to introduce the purported Miller tapes.

I let your opinion be, not sure if you have/had prosecutorial experience.  I am very aware of the entire case and who requested what matters be entered as evidence.   

Jon

Quote from: MU82 on March 14, 2019, 10:47:18 PM
Shaka's 4 years in Texas ...

20-13 NCAA first round loss

11-22

19-15 NCAA first round loss

16-16

Tough being a genius nowadays.

Thank god he's married to that uptight snob, Maya. 

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Jon on March 19, 2019, 04:49:15 PM
Thank god he's married to that uptight snob, Maya.


She musta figured it'll be more fun getting run out of Austin than Milwaukee....

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2019, 04:26:50 PM
no to drone on about legal stuff, but I wouldn't say it's seldom that a person implicated in a criminal conspiracy or portrayed as an unindicted co-conspirator takes the Fifth.
And I don't see how Miller's situation gets worse by invoking his Fifth Amendment right when the alternative is admitting he was paying players or perjuring himself. Of the three options, it's the least likely to not be a career-killer.
As for the tapes, it's worth noting that the government chose not to introduce the texts involving Self, but rather it was the defense, in an effort to downplay their client's involvement. Judging by that, the government may not want to introduce the purported Miller tapes.
Since Miller has publicly and by all reports privately sworn he has done nothing wrong, pleading the 5th would undermine his credibility. This is not my opinion; UofA reporters have indicated their sources have said taking the 5th would be the end of Miller's tenure. But to your point, taking the 5th can keep him out of jail and leave open the opportunity for a job at another school.

MU82

Quote from: Jon on March 19, 2019, 04:49:15 PM
Thank god he's married to that uptight snob, Maya.

66-66 after 4 years at Texas' landmark university. Zero tourney wins. Three straight seasons with losing conference records. Two seasons without winning overall records. 16-16 in Year 4.

A good chunk of Scoop wants Wojo fired; how would they have handled that?
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Pakuni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 19, 2019, 05:18:54 PM
Since Miller has publicly and by all reports privately sworn he has done nothing wrong, pleading the 5th would undermine his credibility. This is not my opinion; UofA reporters have indicated their sources have said taking the 5th would be the end of Miller's tenure. But to your point, taking the 5th can keep him out of jail and leave open the opportunity for a job at another school.

Lost credibility vs federal indictment for perjury or conspiracy.
Which would you choose?

Jon

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 19, 2019, 04:53:25 PM

She musta figured it'll be more fun getting run out of Austin than Milwaukee....

She can change her BBQ order, "Make that to go..."

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2019, 06:10:22 PM
Lost credibility vs federal indictment for perjury or conspiracy.
Which would you choose?
Lol. Easy choice. Crean to Arizona!

Bocephys

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 20, 2019, 04:56:43 AM
Lol. Easy choice. Crean to Arizona!

He'd still bring his tanning bed.  The real sun doesn't give provide the right orange-ish glow.

MUBurrow

Quote from: MUBurrow on March 19, 2019, 10:05:03 AM
Goodman reported yesterday that Nebraska will be firing Tim Miles and Hoiberg is the frontrunner to replace him. No word on whether Fred Hoiberg is aware that he is the frontrunner at Nebraska.

Per the guy that was the first to report on Scott Frost to Neb, I guess this is a #donedeal. Kinda surprising, I would have thought Hoiberg could do better. It'll be interesting to see the $$

MuMark

Hoiberg has ties to Nebraska.

MUBurrow

Quote from: MuMark on March 20, 2019, 07:10:32 PM
Hoiberg has ties to Nebraska.

Ahh okay that makes more sense then.  And good for Nebraska, that's two home run coaching hires for their programs based on guys with ties.

The Sultan

His grandfather was the head coach there in the 50s and his parents are both alumni. He has extended family in the state too.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Nebraska really isn't a bad gig. Sure it's a football school, but great resources, good fan base. You can certainly win there.

The Sultan

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 20, 2019, 08:58:21 PM
Nebraska really isn't a bad gig. Sure it's a football school, but great resources, good fan base. You can certainly win there.

I agree. Furthermore pressure won't be huge.
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VegasWarrior77

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

The Sultan

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 21, 2019, 08:17:40 AM
Ex-NBA player Mike Miller could be ideal fit for UNLV

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/ed-graney/ex-nba-player-mike-miller-could-be-ideal-fit-for-unlv-1622953/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


I can't for a second think that would be a good idea.  He's been a college assistant for less than a year, and the idea that recruits would be interested in him because he played with Lebron James?  I don't he has a good understanding of how the recruiting process works.

That being said, Porter Moser would be a terrible choice too.
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VegasWarrior77

The UNLV fan base is delusional. Six weeks ago the rumor was the athletic department was talking to Pitino. A few weeks later they were supposedly talking to Thad Motta...
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 21, 2019, 08:30:25 AM

I can't for a second think that would be a good idea.  He's been a college assistant for less than a year, and the idea that recruits would be interested in him because he played with Lebron James?  I don't he has a good understanding of how the recruiting process works.

That being said, Porter Moser would be a terrible choice too.

He's well connected in the AAU scene. Also, Miller's older brother is the associate HC at TCU under Jamie Dixon. He was on Calipari's staff at Memphis and at New Mexico under Alford. Also was at UNLV recently. They are supposed to be a package deal. So I would imagine Mike Miller knows how the game works. And he has a good X&Os guy and experienced assistant to help.

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