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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2019, 02:15:27 PM »
JC will likely have a good moment here and there, but it should be painfully obvious by now that he's overmatched and a lost cause

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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2019, 02:20:14 PM »
Providence is always a pain in the behind but I do love Ed Cooley, his presser was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W_XCsruas

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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2019, 02:21:23 PM »
Clearly Joe C has the green light to shoot those - which means he's making them in practice. I don't need know if there's any way to overcome the mental block at this point, but would be great to have him in the role Wojo clearly wants for,him down the stretch.


Idk about your green light because hes making them in practice idea

Theres a lot of guys on this forum that could probably hit 1 in 4.   He clearly goosed out on us “lost his edge” and handed in the wings to bailey.   Time to move on.
That said, after his 2nd airball I think they ran the exact same play and Sacar nailed it.

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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2019, 02:22:19 PM »
That's considered a "blowout" win in the NET rankings correct?

Also, what was our free throw rate. I imagine it had to be pretty good.

That's only in rankings like KenPom....not the NET, at least as far as we know
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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2019, 02:30:16 PM »
Can't give up on Chartouny.    No other options.    He needs a brain reboot. 
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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2019, 02:30:56 PM »
Providence is always a pain in the behind but I do love Ed Cooley, his presser was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W_XCsruas


He talking 'bout Ft's!  :o
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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2019, 02:35:30 PM »
I hate it on the rare occasions whe Chartouney makes a 3 - it only encourages him to shoot more. Hate to say it, his numbers looked good preseason,
but this was a mistake. He had a couple of good games against the likes of Presbyterian, but he is in over his head. I’d rather see the frustrating Jamal, who at least has occasional extraordinary athletic moves.

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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2019, 02:36:21 PM »

He talking 'bout Ft's!  :o

Our free throw defense was elite today!

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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2019, 02:38:08 PM »
Providence is always a pain in the behind but I do love Ed Cooley, his presser was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W_XCsruas
Classy.    His comments about youth were very apt in regards to MU the last couple of years.    'a tough out if you don't scout them.'
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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2019, 02:40:07 PM »
Can't give up on Chartouny.    No other options.    He needs a brain reboot.

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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2019, 02:44:45 PM »
When was the last time we put a true garbage time walk-on the floor to close out the game in a game where healthy, dressed scholarship players (Cain, Heldt) did not get in the game?
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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2019, 02:46:19 PM »
I hate it on the rare occasions whe Chartouney makes a 3 - it only encourages him to shoot more. Hate to say it, his numbers looked good preseason,
but this was a mistake. He had a couple of good games against the likes of Presbyterian, but he is in over his head. I’d rather see the frustrating Jamal, who at least has occasional extraordinary athletic moves.

You hate it when Chartouney makes a 3?

Lol.
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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2019, 02:54:38 PM »
You hate it when Chartouney makes a 3?

Lol.

Joe has scored two points in the last three games and in Big East play he is 1 for 8 from three, the last one coming at SJU on 1/1/19. 

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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2019, 02:57:21 PM »
Maybe with JC it's his confidence.  He picks up his dribble way too often.  It's stifling.

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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2019, 03:07:20 PM »
Joe has scored two points in the last three games and in Big East play he is 1 for 8 from three, the last one coming at SJU on 1/1/19.

So I’ll ask again. People hate when Chartouney makes a 3 pointer?

Lol.
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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2019, 03:18:40 PM »
So I’ll ask again. People hate when Chartouney makes a 3 pointer?

Lol.

Weird.  He needs to make a few, I want him to have confidence otherwise it is 4 on 5 when he is there.
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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2019, 03:19:09 PM »
I hope JC figures it out but would not blame Wojo one bit if he starts to phase him out of the regular rotation. Bailey is coming on and Cain brings more to the table. We were able to supplement the loss of Howard’s ball handling vs GU with Sacar and Sam. I just don’t see much of a role for JC. He’s pretty terrible at everything right now and is scared with the ball in his hands
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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2019, 03:42:46 PM »
I hope JC figures it out but would not blame Wojo one bit if he starts to phase him out of the regular rotation. Bailey is coming on and Cain brings more to the table. We were able to supplement the loss of Howard’s ball handling vs GU with Sacar and Sam. I just don’t see much of a role for JC. He’s pretty terrible at everything right now and is scared with the ball in his hands

On the contrary, Wojo needs to do everything possible to re-establish JC's confidence, and that sure as heck isn't going to happen with him glued to the bench.
Marquette won't be making a run in March - when the team will have to play on consecutive nights (BE tourney) or games within 48 hours (NCAA tourney) - with Markus running the point for 37 minutes a night.
Bailey and Cain may bring more to the table, but neither are capable of running the point. And while Sam did yeoman's work last week against Georgetown, I shiver at the thought of him trying to run the point against a quality defensive backcourt.
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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2019, 03:49:38 PM »
Exactly.   The strength of this team is the team.   Chartouny is a part of the team.   A confident Chartouny playing like he did at Fordham would be a great help.    And, I think Matt should have gotten some run when Ed was getting abused.     
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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2019, 04:09:24 PM »
I watched the second half on tape this afternoon and was again pleased to see that as important as Markus is to our team, others can and do step up. Sam's a stud and the two Hausers are quite a pair.

Again, coaching is really important. Not sure what Coach Wojo said at halftime, but it worked. This team is beginning to show what it has and what it has is really pretty good.


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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2019, 04:47:38 PM »
When was the last time we put a true garbage time walk-on the floor to close out the game in a game where healthy, dressed scholarship players (Cain, Heldt) did not get in the game?

I don’t recall which opponent it was, but a few games ago I thought the same thing when the walk-ons played at the end instead of Heldt.

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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2019, 05:28:55 PM »
3 games in the next 10 games.    Or 4 in 11.    Markus and Morrow didn't look 100%.    Need to get healthy.    Need to get more contributions from more players.   
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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2019, 05:32:18 PM »
On the contrary, Wojo needs to do everything possible to re-establish JC's confidence, and that sure as heck isn't going to happen with him glued to the bench.
Marquette won't be making a run in March - when the team will have to play on consecutive nights (BE tourney) or games within 48 hours (NCAA tourney) - with Markus running the point for 37 minutes a night.
Bailey and Cain may bring more to the table, but neither are capable of running the point. And while Sam did yeoman's work last week against Georgetown, I shiver at the thought of him trying to run the point against a quality defensive backcourt.
He should get the minutes he earns. If he continues to play the way he has Wojo doesn’t have much choice
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Re: PC thoughts (try to not be offended)
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2019, 05:32:38 PM »
On the contrary, Wojo needs to do everything possible to re-establish JC's confidence, and that sure as heck isn't going to happen with him glued to the bench.
Marquette won't be making a run in March - when the team will have to play on consecutive nights (BE tourney) or games within 48 hours (NCAA tourney) - with Markus running the point for 37 minutes a night.
Bailey and Cain may bring more to the table, but neither are capable of running the point. And while Sam did yeoman's work last week against Georgetown, I shiver at the thought of him trying to run the point against a quality defensive backcourt.
So...with that logic Cain should play and not be glued to the bench to regain his confidence. After all, Cain did not throw up two airballs today. BTW, Cartooney is not here next year while we will need Cain next year.
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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2019, 05:36:59 PM »
So...with that logic Cain should play and not be glued to the bench to regain his confidence. After all, Cain did not throw up two airballs today. BTW, Cartooney is not here next year while we will need Cain next year.

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