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Author Topic: OT Out-of-Bounds Call  (Read 2077 times)

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OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« on: January 09, 2019, 08:55:09 PM »
In OT, Markus dribbled the ball up the court and into the corner. He had what looked like his arm hit and he lost control. A blue jay player grabbed the ball off the bounce and clearly dribbled it out bounds. The refs gave the ball back to Creighton? Did I miss something? They even reviewed the play? How could anyone with two eyes give the ball to Creighton?

I know we won, but still. That came at a crucial, crucial point of OT. To miss a call like that is disgraceful.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 08:56:01 PM »
agreed. What are we missing?

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 08:56:11 PM »
In OT, Markus dribbled the ball up the court and into the corner. He had what looked like his arm hit and he lost control. A blue jay player grabbed the ball off the bounce and clearly dribbled it out bounds. The refs gave the ball back to Creighton? Did I miss something? They even reviewed the play? How could anyone with two eyes give the ball to Creighton?

I know we won, but still. That came at a crucial, crucial point of OT. To miss a call like that is disgraceful.

It was horrendous and I'd love to hear an explanation.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 08:57:27 PM »
The worst part is it was reviewed. That was unreal
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2019, 08:58:02 PM »
They reviewed it and still got it wrong.    Although..... the camera angle along the baseline made it look like it may not have touched the line.    From the overhead shot, it looked like it did.   I wonder if they decided it didn't hit the line and Creighton got it due to the inadvertent whistle.    No idea, though.    Just spit balling. 
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2019, 08:59:15 PM »
Agree with all of the above. Couldn’t have been more obvious. However - I think the no-call on Joey’s travel later on almost made up for it.


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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 09:00:11 PM »
And it lead to a made three point shot by CU.  The announcers even said, yup, thats gonna be MU ball.  Once the refs said CU ball, the announcers didn't even question it.  It was the strangest call of the year. 

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 09:00:46 PM »
The worst part is it was reviewed. That was unreal
Exactly. Like did they come out of that review and huddle and say that there actually was conclusive evidence that it is Creighton ball?  I get that you can't call the foul they missed but just how do you miss that
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 09:01:27 PM »
I’ll take our win in sams shot vs our loss on Markus OOB. 

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 09:01:48 PM »
Agree with all of the above. Couldn’t have been more obvious. However - I think the no-call on Joey’s travel later on almost made up for it.
I disagree. The foul called was for a push which if called would be the reason for the travel. Without a foul called it’s a travel
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 09:02:27 PM »
Agree with all of the above. Couldn’t have been more obvious. However - I think the no-call on Joey’s travel later on almost made up for it.

The refs made a HUGE deal out of the missed call on Joey's travel.

But said NOTHING about markus' arm getting hacked during this OOB replay.

Weird.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 09:02:42 PM »
They reviewed it and still got it wrong.    Although..... the camera angle along the baseline made it look like it may not have touched the line.    From the overhead shot, it looked like it did.   I wonder if they decided it didn't hit the line and Creighton got it due to the inadvertent whistle.    No idea, though.    Just spit balling.

Would that be a jump ball though? Which MU would have gotten.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 09:02:47 PM »
Agree with all of the above. Couldn’t have been more obvious. However - I think the no-call on Joey’s travel later on almost made up for it.

DIsagree. He was pushed before he even caught the ball, or at least at the exact moment. The momentum from the push caused him to take the extra steps. THought they got that one right.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2019, 09:02:55 PM »
Agree with all of the above. Couldn’t have been more obvious. However - I think the no-call on Joey’s travel later on almost made up for it.
yep. I think the refs thought Joey must have been pushed. Clearly a walk. 
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2019, 09:03:33 PM »
Would that be a jump ball though? Which MU would have gotten.

I am not claiming to know.   Tossing out one possibility.   It looked to me like they screwed up, too. 
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2019, 09:04:18 PM »
The refs made a HUGE deal out of the missed call on Joey's travel.

But said NOTHING about markus' arm getting hacked during this OOB replay.

Weird.

Joey was fouled immediately. The guy had both hands on him as he caught the ball and call was made right away.  The Howard call on the other hand...brutal.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2019, 09:07:04 PM »
I didnt think the ball ever went out of bounds...not sure how that ended up a CU ball either. 

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2019, 09:08:32 PM »
yep. I think the refs thought Joey must have been pushed. Clearly a walk.

The defender had two hands on Joey.

OOB vs Markus was awful.

But given the way the game went into OT, I am not gonna complain about our luck tonight!
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2019, 09:09:39 PM »
I disagree. The foul called was for a push which if called would be the reason for the travel. Without a foul called it’s a travel


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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 09:10:31 PM »
it was clearly MU ball.  Joey was pushed which caused the travel.

Also did not know it was ok for a player to tell a ref he is F'n terrible and not get T'd up.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2019, 09:11:35 PM »
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Incredible end to regulation in Marquette-Creighton. First, throwing long with .8 up 3 points is the only way you can lose. Inbound under the basket, game is over. Second, closest replay review for the officials you can have. Wow.

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2019, 09:12:23 PM »
It was a quick replay. My suspicion was the ref only watched Markus hand throwing the ball towards out of bounds but didn’t continue the play to see Creighton tip it back?

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2019, 09:14:36 PM »
I honestly think they weren't looking past when the ball was near Markus' hand.  I don't think they realized it didn't go out of bounds at that point.

I'm laying out a scenario where the refs just had a brain fart rather than being completely incompetent.  Well, I guess they were either way you look at that review

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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2019, 09:18:36 PM »
They reviewed it and still got it wrong.    Although..... the camera angle along the baseline made it look like it may not have touched the line.    From the overhead shot, it looked like it did.   I wonder if they decided it didn't hit the line and Creighton got it due to the inadvertent whistle.    No idea, though.    Just spit balling.

Inadvertent whistle is the only comprehensible answer.   But can an IW be reviewed?
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Re: OT Out-of-Bounds Call
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2019, 09:25:22 PM »
it was clearly MU ball.  Joey was pushed which caused the travel.

Also did not know it was ok for a player to tell a ref he is F'n terrible and not get T'd up.

Great point here. Ballock was mouthing off to the refs on multiple occasions.

A ton of push back on my Joey travel observation. I want to make it clear that the no-call on Markus was way more egregious.

Speaking of bad calls and bug moments - and apologies if this one has been discussed: recall the no-call on Joey’s drive that led to Wojo’s T? Anybody else agree that was actually motivated by events immediately preceding that play: the no-call on Chartouny being hacked while driving after we had cut the deficit to 4, then Creighton hitting a 3 immediately after.

Wojo was hot - and with good reason. I believe it was around the 8 minute mark and Creighton only had 1 team foul. After that, the fouls evened out. And the fouls on the big men hedging screens finally started getting called. I believe that finally got Markus the space that he’d needed to get going and opened up the offense as a whole.