Markus Climbing The Ladder

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Its odd to think about this so early, but Markus will likely start his ascent past some all-time greats on the scoring list in the next few games.

Jerel McNeal - 1,985
MARKUS 1,929 Through BET
Lazar Hayward - 1,859
George Thompson - 1,773
Dominic James - 1,749
Butch Lee - 1,735
Travis Diener - 1,691
Brian Wardle - 1,690
Tony Smith - 1,688
Wesley Matthews - 1,673
Bo Ellis - 1,663
Darius Johnson-Odom - 1,649
Damon Key - 1,647
Dean Meminger - 1,637
Trevor Powell - 1,571
Steve Novak - 1,567
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439

[PGsHeroes32]

If we can have a couple of tourney runs

He's got a legit shot to take the top spot this year.

[GGGG]

Barring injury or leaving for the NBA, he will set a mark that will likely never be touched.

[GooooMarquette]

Pretty amazing. The way he has been playing, he has a realistic shot at #3 by the end of the season. Maybe higher....

[PGsHeroes32]

Pretty amazing. The way he has been playing, he has a realistic shot at #3 by the end of the season. Maybe higher....

Barring injury that's more than realistic

He needs to average 19.4 pts per game to tie Thompson....and that's at the end of the regular season. I didn't factor in post season at all.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Barring injury or early entry, he will probably be the new leader by around 500 points or more

[Cheeks]

Barring injury or leaving for the NBA, he will set a mark that will likely never be touched.

Spoke to a scout recently and he thinks Howard is four year guy.  His age gives him that benefit, also size (lack of it and streakieness).  He is currently not on any 2019 draft boards high enough to be cause for concern.  A great college scorer for sure.

[GGGG]

Yeah I don't think he is an NBA player yet, but that doesn't mean he won't try.  If I were him, would test the waters in the Spring with the possibility of removing myself after going through the process.

[bilsu]

Barring injury or early entry, he will probably be the new leader by around 500 points or more

I will take the over on this. He will easily score over 2500 points.

[MUBigDance]

Spoke to a scout recently and he thinks Howard is four year guy.  His age gives him that benefit, also size (lack of it and streakieness).  He is currently not on any 2019 draft boards high enough to be cause for concern.  A great college scorer for sure.

This is really reasonable. Size, handle, streaks...he needs to grow a bit (not height of course...but that would help ). The age factor didn't think about. Still youth as a senior.

[MU82]

Pretty amazing. The way he has been playing, he has a realistic shot at #3 by the end of the season. Maybe higher....

Hell with that. He could be at #3 by the end of the first half against Southern.

I mean, he'd only hafta score 370 points in 20 minutes. Child's play!

[brewcity77]

Sam moving on up as well. He's at 955 career points, just 45 shy of the 1,000 mark. He has a legitimate chance to finish as a top-5 all time scorer.

[oldwarrior81]

we mentioned this a couple weeks ago when Blockton set the ladies mark; depending on how deep the season lasts, Howard could surpass McNeal this season.

if healthy there should be at least 22 games remaining.  Have to average 26.4 a game to pass McNeal.
but if you add in 5 post season games (between BEast tourney and NCAA)  that average needed comes down to 23.4 a game


Not only Sam, but if Joey continues his progression, both Hausers could end up 1500+

[SaveOD238]

Its odd to think about this so early, but Markus will likely start his ascent past some all-time greats on the scoring list in the next few games.

Jerel McNeal - 1,985
Lazar Hayward - 1,859
George Thompson - 1,773
Dominic James - 1,749
Butch Lee - 1,735
Travis Diener - 1,691
Brian Wardle - 1,690
Tony Smith - 1,688
Wesley Matthews - 1,673
Bo Ellis - 1,663
Darius Johnson-Odom - 1,649
Damon Key - 1,647
Dean Meminger - 1,637
Trevor Powell - 1,571
Steve Novak - 1,567
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439
MARKUS 1404 Through Buffalo

Gonna need some older Scoopers to help me on this one: Other than DJO who else is on this list with only three seasons?

[Cheeks]

Gonna need some older Scoopers to help me on this one: Other than DJO who else is on this list with only three seasons?

Freshmen weren't eligible

George Thompson
Don Kojis
Dean Meminger
Bob Wolf

[Afroman]

It's fun looking at that list -- all good players and I remember watching many of them.
However, there are a few that I don't remember scoring that many points (a sign of getting old, I guess).

[kclem]

George Thompson had a career average of 20.4 points per game. Markus is currently at 18.2 and rising.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Markus is an incredible scorer and a great shooter but his PG skills are actually really bad.  His shot at the NBA is as a PG and he has a long way to go in that area.

[BM1090]

Markus is an incredible scorer and a great shooter but his PG skills are actually really bad.  His shot at the NBA is as a PG and he has a long way to go in that area.

His ball handling has improved greatly and would be more than acceptable in the NBA game where he isn't a main focus of the defense.

His passing and court vision need to improve a ton

[tower912]

So?   Celebrate him being at MU for 4 years.   AND, he is 19 and may see the court better in a year.     

[4everwarriors]

Barring injury or leaving for the NBA, he will set a mark that will likely never be touched.

Really, hey?

[oldwarrior81]

top career scoring average per game  (minimum 2 years)
career avg   (best season)

20.4   George Thompson   (22.9)  3-years
19.4   Dwyane Wade   (21.5)   2-years
19.0   Jim Chones   (20.6)   2-years
18.8   Dean Meminger   (21.2)   3-years
18.6   Don Kojis   (21.4)   3-years
18.6   Mike Moran   (20.4)   3-years
18.3   Bob Wolf   (22.0)   3-years
18.2   Markus Howard   (25.0 current)   2+ years
17.0   Terry Rand      (20.3)   3-years
16.4   Tom Flynn   (17.3)   3-years

16.2   Andrew Rowsey   (20.5)   2-years
16.2   Ron Glaser   (17.6)   3-years
15.7   Darius Johnson-Odom   (18.3)   3-years
15.7   Maurice Lucas   (15.8)   2-years
15.6   David Boone   (15.9)   2-years
15.5   Larry McNeill   (17.6)   2-years
15.3   Jerel McNeal   (19.9)   4-years
15.1   Butch Lee   (19.6)   4-years
14.8   Tony Smith   (23.8)   4-years
14.6   Jae Crowder   (17.5)   2-years

[wadesworld]

top career scoring average per game  (minimum 2 years)
career avg   (best season)

20.4   George Thompson   (22.9)  3-years
19.4   Dwyane Wade   (21.5)   2-years
19.0   Jim Chones   (20.6)   2-years
18.8   Dean Meminger   (21.2)   3-years
18.6   Don Kojis   (21.4)   3-years
18.6   Mike Moran   (20.4)   3-years
18.3   Bob Wolf   (22.0)   3-years
18.2   Markus Howard   (25.0 current)   2+ years
17.0   Terry Rand      (20.3)   3-years
16.4   Tom Flynn   (17.3)   3-years

16.2   Andrew Rowsey   (20.5)   2-years
16.2   Ron Glaser   (17.6)   3-years
15.7   Darius Johnson-Odom   (18.3)   3-years
15.7   Maurice Lucas   (15.8)   2-years
15.6   David Boone   (15.9)   2-years
15.5   Larry McNeill   (17.6)   2-years
15.3   Jerel McNeal   (19.9)   4-years
15.1   Butch Lee   (19.6)   4-years
14.8   Tony Smith   (23.8)   4-years
14.6   Jae Crowder   (17.5)   2-years

How many of the 3 year players were 3 years because freshman were not eligible?

Would be interesting to see what kind of career averages guys who were eligible their freshman years averaged from sophomore year on, given that typically the freshman year average would be the worst.

[brewcity77]

How many of the 3 year players were 3 years because freshman were not eligible?

Would be interesting to see what kind of career averages guys who were eligible their freshman years averaged from sophomore year on, given that typically the freshman year average would be the worst.

And while it's old news now, Markus was 17 when he started here. When George Thompson scored his first point for Marquette, he was older than Howard at the end of his sophomore year.

[TallTitan34]

What years were college freshman ineligible?  When did that end?

EDIT: Appears to have been 1972.