Markus Climbing The Ladder

[oldwarrior81]

I think freshmen could play varsity until 1964-65.

And correct, freshmen were once again allowed to play varsity basketball in 1972-73.  Which was Earl Tatum's freshman class.

[GooooMarquette]

Funny how in the 60s people didn't seem to think frosh were ready to play with the varsity, and now we've seen many skip past 'em altogether.

[skianth16]

Funny how in the 60s people didn't seem to think frosh were ready to play with the varsity, and now we've seen many skip past 'em altogether.

I wasn't around back then, but from what I understand, kids now are spending way more time playing basketball prior to arriving on campus than they did 50 years ago. The training and level of competition they've been exposed to nowawdays is just so different. I can see how 18 year olds wouldn't be ready to compete at the collegiate level back then because they didn't have the same kind of experience beforehand like kids do now.

[Lennys Tap]

I wasn't around back then, but from what I understand, kids now are spending way more time playing basketball prior to arriving on campus than they did 50 years ago. The training and level of competition they've been exposed to nowawdays is just so different. I can see how 18 year olds wouldn't be ready to compete at the collegiate level back then because they didn't have the same kind of experience beforehand like kids do now.

It's true that a freshman coming in today has played a lot more organized ball than one back in the '60s but the sophomores, juniors and seniors ahead of him have also. My sophomore year at MU Dean Meminger was a freshman ineligible for varsity. We were runner up to SIU and Walt Frazier for the NIT championship that year. Had Meminger been eligible he would have been the second best player on that team. The top freshmen of that era were ready when they arrived on campus - just like today.

[CAGASS24]

Still remember the quote when traci carter left - basically boiled down to him knowing the frosh was eons better than him from day one - he called it directly , said Howard would be the all time leading scorer for MU

[MuMark]

I remember the story about UCLA's freshmen team beating the varsity badly in a preseason scrimmage. That UCLA's team went on to win the NC iirc.

Of course the freshmen team had this guy named Lou Alcindor. ........

[Afroman]

Still remember the quote when traci carter left - basically boiled down to him knowing the frosh was eons better than him from day one - he called it directly , said Howard would be the all time leading scorer for MU

FYI ... After redshirting last year, Traci is averaging 6.1 points, 3.7 assists and 2.8 rebounds while starting in all 12 games for 2-10 La Salle. He is shooting 35% from the floor (27-77).

[MU82]

FYI ... After redshirting last year, Traci is averaging 6.1 points, 3.7 assists and 2.8 rebounds while starting in all 12 games for 2-10 La Salle. He is shooting 35% from the floor (27-77).

Yeah, but he'd be averaging 20-10-10 for us, and we'd be undefeated!

Seriously, with Elliott out, we could use a few minutes a game from Traci. But he wasn't going to be satisfied with that role, and that's cool. He's not a P6 player, and he found a team close to home that plays competition better suited to his skill set. I wish him well.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Yeah, but he'd be averaging 20-10-10 for us, and we'd be undefeated!

Seriously, with Elliott out, we could use a few minutes a game from Traci. But he wasn't going to be satisfied with that role, and that's cool. He's not a P6 player, and he found a team close to home that plays competition better suited to his skill set. I wish him well.

I basically think of Chartouny as Carter's replacement.   I'll take Joe's size over Traci.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Jerel McNeal - 1,985
Lazar Hayward - 1,859
George Thompson - 1,773
Dominic James - 1,749
Butch Lee - 1,735
Travis Diener - 1,691
Brian Wardle - 1,690
Tony Smith - 1,688
Wesley Matthews - 1,673
Bo Ellis - 1,663
Darius Johnson-Odom - 1,649
Damon Key - 1,647
Dean Meminger - 1,637
Trevor Powell - 1,571
Steve Novak - 1,567
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439
MARKUS 1430 Through Southern

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[Not A Serious Person]

Front page updated through tonight.

18 conference games plus at least two post season games …

If he continues to average 23/game x 20 games = 460 points + 1430 = 1890 points or #2.

Now if MU has 6 post season games instead of two (3 BET, 3 NCAA), and he still averages 23/game = 1982 points, three points short of the record.

Of course this assumes no injury, illness, slump etc.

[brewcity77]

18 conference games plus at least two post season games …

If he continues to average 23/game x 20 games = 460 points + 1430 = 1890 points or #2.

Now if MU has 6 post season games instead of two (3 BET, 3 NCAA), and he still averages 23/game = 1982 points, three points short of the record.

Of course this assumes no injury, illness, slump etc.

That also assumes his current scoring average drops. Admittedly, that seems likely in conference play, but if he maintained his 25.1 ppg average, he would only need 23 games to both pass McNeal and the 2,000 career point mark, assuming he stays healthy. In the process, he would also shatter Rowsey's one-year-old single season scoring record.

[MU82]

Front page updated through tonight.

Let's see ... 1430 ... that means he could get to 1500 on Tuesday!

[Silkk the Shaka]

Let's see ... 1430 ... that means he could get to 1500 on Tuesday!

So you think we'll be winning so big he only gets 15 minutes again?

[Not A Serious Person]

That also assumes his current scoring average drops. Admittedly, that seems likely in conference play, but if he maintained his 25.1 ppg average, he would only need 23 games to both pass McNeal and the 2,000 career point mark, assuming he stays healthy. In the process, he would also shatter Rowsey's one-year-old single season scoring record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Rowsey
Rowsey broke Dwyane Wade's single-season Marquette scoring record with 716 points.
He also set the single-season three-pointers mark with 125 threes.
He averaged 20.5 points, 4.8 assists, and 3.0 rebounds per game in 35 games.


Markus through 13 games this year

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/269

326 points.  If he averages 23 points/game (at 25.1 now) for the next 20 games = 786 points
49 made 3PM or 3.76/ game.  If he continues to average 3.76 game for 20 more games, he TIES Rowsey at 125.

Last year Markus had 694 points (22 behind Rowsey) and 111 made 3P (14 less than Rowsey)

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

I basically think of Chartouny as Carter's replacement.   I'll take Joe's size over Traci.

...and is shooting 41% from 3 point range...

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Its odd to think about this so early, but Markus will likely start his ascent past some all-time greats on the scoring list in the next few games.

Jerel McNeal - 1,985
Lazar Hayward - 1,859
George Thompson - 1,773
Dominic James - 1,749
Butch Lee - 1,735
Travis Diener - 1,691
Brian Wardle - 1,690
Tony Smith - 1,688
Wesley Matthews - 1,673
Bo Ellis - 1,663
Darius Johnson-Odom - 1,649
Damon Key - 1,647
Dean Meminger - 1,637
Trevor Powell - 1,571
Steve Novak - 1,567
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
MARKUS 1464 Through X
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439

Passes Hutch.

[Galway Eagle]

Its odd to think about this so early, but Markus will likely start his ascent past some all-time greats on the scoring list in the next few games.

Jerel McNeal - 1,985
Lazar Hayward - 1,859
George Thompson - 1,773
Dominic James - 1,749
Butch Lee - 1,735
Travis Diener - 1,691
Brian Wardle - 1,690
Tony Smith - 1,688
Wesley Matthews - 1,673
Bo Ellis - 1,663
Darius Johnson-Odom - 1,649
Damon Key - 1,647
Dean Meminger - 1,637
Trevor Powell - 1,571
Steve Novak - 1,567
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
MARKUS 1464 Through X
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439

Never dawned on me that if Zar hadn't stepped on the line or Lopez doesn't make that shot that McNeal likely hits 2000

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Its odd to think about this so early, but Markus will likely start his ascent past some all-time greats on the scoring list in the next few games.

Jerel McNeal - 1,985
Lazar Hayward - 1,859
George Thompson - 1,773
Dominic James - 1,749
Butch Lee - 1,735
Travis Diener - 1,691
Brian Wardle - 1,690
Tony Smith - 1,688
Wesley Matthews - 1,673
Bo Ellis - 1,663
Darius Johnson-Odom - 1,649
Damon Key - 1,647
Dean Meminger - 1,637
Trevor Powell - 1,571
Steve Novak - 1,567
MARKUS 1517 Through Creighton
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439

Passed kojis tonight thanks to Sam

[4everwarriors]

Gonna pass Steve durin' Seton Hall, aina?

[GooooMarquette]

Gonna pass Steve durin' Seton Hall, aina?

Beat me to it!

[4everwarriors]

Mite get Powell, two, hey?

[GooooMarquette]

Mite get Powell, two, hey?

Only if it goes to OT.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Only three 3-year players in front right?  DJO, meninger and GT. 

[theBabyDavid]

On Friday I was draining the gila monster at Quinn's Pub on Capital Hill where there, above the urinal, was a poster of Don Kojis, Lenny Wilkins, and Spencer Haywood in full Sonics regalia.

I guess Kojis' spot in the Pantheon of Heroes is secure.