On-Campus Arena Tidbit

[Benny B]

Funny that the #1 business school in the country isn't on the Quad anymore like it was in my day. 

You're confusing "focal point" with "center of attention."  Also, please note the use of the article "a," not "the."

And does Bucky even have quads anymore?  No safe spaces in a parallelogram.  Or were you talking about the UW-Madison of Massachusetts?

[GGGG]

If you can't understand the difference between 16th and Clybourn and 16th and Wisconsin, well, okay then.

If you look at the campus master plan, a lot of thought went into where they are placing these buildings.  They are putting the new residence halls further north so putting the rec center at 16th and Wisconsin makes a lot of sense.  Furthermore, they are putting the business building on 16th and Clybourn and connecting it to a conference center placed where the old gym is.  Again, that makes sense since there will be a lot of connections between that center and the college of business.

Master plans aren't done like placing furniture in your living room.  You just can't plop buildings somewhere haphazardly.  Moving that building to 16th and Wisconsin upends a great deal of what they are trying to accomplish.  I guess it depends on how much the donor is willing to give and how important it is, but it isn't going to be easy to do.

And regardless of the location, my guess is the building will be spectacular so it will become a focal point regardless of location.

[5YearsatMU]

If you look at the campus master plan, a lot of thought went into where they are placing these buildings.  They are putting the new residence halls further north so putting the rec center at 16th and Wisconsin makes a lot of sense.  Furthermore, they are putting the business building on 16th and Clybourn and connecting it to a conference center placed where the old gym is.  Again, that makes sense since there will be a lot of connections between that center and the college of business.

Master plans aren't done like placing furniture in your living room.  You just can't plop buildings somewhere haphazardly.  Moving that building to 16th and Wisconsin upends a great deal of what they are trying to accomplish.  I guess it depends on how much the donor is willing to give and how important it is, but it isn't going to be easy to do.

And regardless of the location, my guess is the building will be spectacular so it will become a focal point regardless of location.

I know MU doesn't have a great track record of thinking things through, but one would assume that in a decision like moving the business school building, MU has indeed thought about how it affects the rest of the plan. 

Also, how old is the master plan everyone keeps referencing?  There is a distinct possibility that it has been changed and none of us give enough money to have been consulted. 

[warriorchick]

 

Also, how old is the master plan everyone keeps referencing?  There is a distinct possibility that it has been changed and none of us give enough money to have been consulted.

It was released in January of 2017.

[Its DJOver]

As a general rule of thumb; master plans don't get adjusted very much (if at all) once they've been released.  If a donor has enough money and is stubborn enough, sure, they can get what they want where they want, but the vast majority of the time, all design decisions will be made by the Architects, Urban Planners, and Master Planners.  I would be pretty shocked if any academic building goes north of Wisconsin.

Also, what Sultan said is pretty spot on, the people that put these together know what they're doing.

[warriorchick]

As a general rule of thumb; master plans don't get adjusted very much (if at all) once they've been released.  If a donor has enough money and is stubborn enough, sure, they can get what they want where they want, but the vast majority of the time, all design decisions will be made by the Architects, Urban Planners, and Master Planners.  I would be pretty shocked if any academic building goes north of Wisconsin.

Also, what Sultan said is pretty spot on, the people that put these together know what they're doing.

If this is about the ego of the donor (which it certainly sounds like), I am sure the university could come up with an alternative that would satisfy him.  If the size of the check is big enough, perhaps the entire Innovation Alley could be named after him.  That way, they could put a big sign on 16th and Wisconsin with his name on it.

[Its DJOver]

If this is about the ego of the donor (which it certainly sounds like), I am sure the university could come up with an alternative that would satisfy him.  If the size of the check is big enough, perhaps the entire Innovation Alley could be named after him.  That way, they could put a big sign on 16th and Wisconsin with his name on it.

Yep, there are usually (but not always) ways to accommodate everyone.  Having your name be bigger on the side of a building is usually a viable solution.

[warriorchick]

Yep, there are usually (but not always) ways to accommodate everyone.  Having your name be bigger on the side of a building is usually a viable solution.

When I was a student, the words "Marquette University" on the side of Helfaer Recreation Center was the most visible sign on the South-facing end of campus.  You can see it from I-94 and the Marquette Interchange.  That is exactly where the new B-School is going.  I don't know why anyone would think that would be less prominent placement than up on Wisconsin Avenue.  It gets exponentially more eyeballs.

[Its DJOver]

Also, as a side note, I would not be at all surprised if that sky-bridge from Innovation Alley to the Old Gym never happens.  Bells and whistles like that are often just thrown in, knowing that they'll likely be cut, in order to ask for more money.  Elaborate water features are another feature that falls into this category.

[warriorchick]

Also, as a side note, I would not be at all surprised if that sky-bridge from Innovation Alley to the Old Gym never happens.  Bells and whistles like that are often just thrown in, knowing that they'll likely be cut, in order to ask for more money.  Elaborate water features are another feature that falls into this category.

I do hope they keep their plan to renovate the Old Gym into nice meeting and event space.  I thought that it was a great idea.  There is a lot of potential there.

[5YearsatMU]

If this is about the ego of the donor (which it certainly sounds like), I am sure the university could come up with an alternative that would satisfy him.  If the size of the check is big enough, perhaps the entire Innovation Alley could be named after him.  That way, they could put a big sign on 16th and Wisconsin with his name on it.

I'm going to play devil's advocate, but how do you know its a him? 

That is exactly where the new B-School is going. 

Obviously, there are people in the know what have seen and heard differently. 

[jsglow]

And let us not forget that the last 'donor driven naming rights' situation didn't work out too well.  Now before everyone gets upset, I'm not in any way blaming the wonderful donors or the incredible person (in my eyes) they tried to honor.  I'm just saying that it'll be long after Fr. Wild's passing before any consideration can be made to renaming that signature space.  If MU had just listened a little longer to a few of us organized scoopers this might have been all avoided.  Again, not anyone's fault.

That said, of course there are alterations to the Master Plan.  The new AHPRC sits on a site that the Master Plan originally contemplated as student housing down the road.  But that's a tweak, not a conceptual change.  Great effort went into developing the campus for the next century to be one of the signature urban universities in the country.  Compare even today's footprint to the hodgepodge of 40 years ago.  You don't throw that away because some dude with $50 million says so.  Set a precedent like that and you create a mess.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I'm going to play devil's advocate, but how do you know its a him? 

Obviously, there are people in the know what have seen and heard differently.

Women are nurses or teachers, not businessmen.  *ducks*

(I hope you uptight PC crusaders know this is only a joke.)

[warriorchick]

I'm going to play devil's advocate, but how do you know its a him? 

I was waiting for someone to say that....

Given the ego-driven demand, I would bet my retirement fund (sorry, glow) that it is a man. Either that, or a married couple where the husband is making that particular call.

Obviously, there are people in the know what have seen and heard differently. 

That indeed is where the B-school is going per the Master Plan.

[🏀]

Women are nurses or teachers, not businessmen.  *ducks*

(I hope you uptight PC crusaders know this is only a joke.)

Kinda hard for a woman to be a businessman honestly.

[TallTitan34]

Back in 2009 when I was still a civil engineering student, we had a Q/A with the University's architect or planner (don't remember his exact title).

He told us when planning was going on for Cudahy Hall, Marquette wanted the building to be brick to match the theme of the surrounding buildings and future planned buildings.  The donors demanded the building have a granite exterior despite Marquette's requests so that's what they went with.

And now Cudahy doesn't match a damn thing around it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Women are nurses or teachers, not businessmen.  *ducks*

(I hope you uptight PC crusaders know this is only a joke.)

Yes. This is a wonderful joke. You are making fun of the idea that women can only go into certain fields.

Now if you were making fun of someone for being a woman, that is where someone might say something about your joke.

[🏀]

Back in 2009 when I was still a civil engineering student, we had a Q/A with the University's architect or planner (don't remember his exact title).

He told us when planning was going on for Cudahy Hall, Marquette wanted the building to be brick to match the theme of the surrounding buildings and future planned buildings.  The donors demanded the building have a granite exterior despite Marquette's requests so that's what they went with.

And now Cudahy doesn't match a damn thing around it.

I forgot about this until now.

[4everwarriors]

If this is about the ego of the donor (which it certainly sounds like), I am sure the university could come up with an alternative that would satisfy him.  If the size of the check is big enough, perhaps the entire Innovation Alley could be named after him.  That way, they could put a big sign on 16th and Wisconsin with his name on it.

How due y'all like da ring of "4everwarriors Innovation Alley," hey?

[mu03eng]

I'm going to play devil's advocate, but how do you know its a him? 

Obviously, there are people in the know what have seen and heard differently.

It's a couple.....no in sight into who is swinging the club against MU of the two of them

[tower912]

Frankly, the spelling and grammar would reflect poorly on the school.    Unless it was just the dentistry school.   Then it is to be expected. 

[Spotcheck Billy]

How due y'all like da ring of "4everwarriors Innovation Alley," hey?

pass

[MU82]

How due y'all like da ring of "4everwarriors Innovation Alley," hey?

Eye like it, butt wuldnt it hafta bee "Foreevverwarreeors Inovayshun Allee"?

[Cheeks]

If you look at the campus master plan, a lot of thought went into where they are placing these buildings.  They are putting the new residence halls further north so putting the rec center at 16th and Wisconsin makes a lot of sense.  Furthermore, they are putting the business building on 16th and Clybourn and connecting it to a conference center placed where the old gym is.  Again, that makes sense since there will be a lot of connections between that center and the college of business.

Master plans aren't done like placing furniture in your living room.  You just can't plop buildings somewhere haphazardly.  Moving that building to 16th and Wisconsin upends a great deal of what they are trying to accomplish.  I guess it depends on how much the donor is willing to give and how important it is, but it isn't going to be easy to do.

And regardless of the location, my guess is the building will be spectacular so it will become a focal point regardless of location.

Shouldn't the residents as part of their pilgrimage to the Rec center want the extra block or two for the workout?

[reinko]

It's a couple.....no in sight into who is swinging the club against MU of the two of them

GlowChick School of Bizness has a ring to it