NFL 2018-19 2.0

[Cheeks]

High School football......you all might find this rather moving...I sure did.  Football will be fine.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25989428

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

https://deadspin.com/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prosti-1832807440

[Not A Serious Person]

https://deadspin.com/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prosti-1832807440

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/indian-river-county/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2920354002/

A six-month investigation revealed human traffickers were luring vulnerable girls to massage parlors in Indian River County, where they were coerced into working as prostitutes, police announced Thursday. 

Ten spas from the Orlando area through the Treasure Coast into Palm Beach County were shut down Tuesday as law enforcement began making arrests.

"These girls are there all day long, into the evening. They can't leave and they're performing sex acts," Currey said. "Some of them may tell us they're OK, but they're not. We know that… even though we may have charges on some of them, we'd rather them be victims."

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If this is accurate (minding we live in the fake news era), he will not be the owner when training camp starts.

His son will be the owner and old man kraft will be banned from attending games and stepping foot in NFL facilities. 

This will be the elephant in the room when the patriots have their ring ceremony this fall.

[MUBurrow]

WELL I'LL BE DAMNED. THIS IS THE KIND OF MAN THAT MR. KRAFT IS?? I HAD NO IDEA.

[jesmu84]

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/indian-river-county/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2920354002/

A six-month investigation revealed human traffickers were luring vulnerable girls to massage parlors in Indian River County, where they were coerced into working as prostitutes, police announced Thursday. 

Ten spas from the Orlando area through the Treasure Coast into Palm Beach County were shut down Tuesday as law enforcement began making arrests.

"These girls are there all day long, into the evening. They can't leave and they're performing sex acts," Currey said. "Some of them may tell us they're OK, but they're not. We know that… even though we may have charges on some of them, we'd rather them be victims."

————-

If this is accurate (minding we live in the fake news era), he will not be the owner when training camp starts.

His son will be the owner and old man kraft will be banned from attending games and stepping foot in NFL facilities. 

This will be the elephant in the room when the patriots have their ring ceremony this fall.

Are you saying he will voluntarily step down? Or his family will want him to step down? Or the organization will ask him to step down? Or the NFL will ask him?

Because, even if true, I think none of the above happen and he's still the owner next season.

[RJax55]

Are you saying he will voluntarily step down? Or his family will want him to step down? Or the organization will ask him to step down? Or the NFL will ask him?

Because, even if true, I think none of the above happen and he's still the owner next season.

He will still own the team, but I definitely think his son Jonathan becomes CEO and becomes the public face of ownership. Bob will become Chairman of the Board or have some other like title.

[DegenerateDish]

Hot rumor is that Kraft isn't the biggest name that got nailed in this (pun intended). *Reckless Speculation* - Gotta be Tiger, right?

[wadesworld]

Hot rumor is that Kraft isn't the biggest name that got nailed in this (pun intended). *Reckless Speculation* - Gotta be Tiger, right?

Mar-A-Lago area...connections to Robert Kraft...it couldn't be...could it...?

[Jockey]

Hot rumor is that Kraft isn't the biggest name that got nailed in this (pun intended). *Reckless Speculation* - Gotta be Tiger, right?

My first thought, too.

Only other thing i can come up with is a big name politician since the "spa" is omly a half hour drive from Mar-a-Lago

[Jockey]

Key Largo area...connections to Robert Kraft...it couldn't be...could it...?

Do we have a mind meld here, Wades?

[wadesworld]

Do we have a mind meld here, Wades?

Yeah I chose the wrong "Lago" originally.

[StillAWarrior]

Hot rumor is that Kraft isn't the biggest name that got nailed in this (pun intended). *Reckless Speculation* - Gotta be Tiger, right?

It's interesting that Kraft's name would be on the list, but someone else's name is withheld.  I mean, Kraft is a pretty freaking big name.

So, sports, politics or entertainment?

[DegenerateDish]

It's interesting that Kraft's name would be on the list, but someone else's name is withheld.  I mean, Kraft is a pretty freaking big name.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. I thought maybe Tiger based on his past, the location, and maybe they didn't announce his name because he's out of the country. I have no idea.

I thought the Prez was low hanging fruit to be connected here (who the hell knows, maybe?) but I didn't want to get this thread locked. But yeah, it certainly occurred to me it could be him too. Although if this was in the last two years, it seems difficult that he'd be able to get to one of these places as prez (?).

[Jockey]

WELL I'LL BE DAMNED. THIS IS THE KIND OF MAN THAT MR. KRAFT IS?? I HAD NO IDEA.

Yup. These old white guys scream about sex trafficking at the southern border while at the same time, they "meet up" with girls who speak no English, clearly are not here legally, and are forced to live in subhuman conditions.

Classy!

[DegenerateDish]

Someone posted on Yelp a review of the massage parlor under the name "Tom B", I can't find it to post here, but saw it on Twitter, and it was hilarious.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

Mar-A-Largo area...connections to Robert Kraft...it couldn't be...could it...?

Jerry Jones. God willing

[Pakuni]

Are you saying he will voluntarily step down? Or his family will want him to step down? Or the organization will ask him to step down? Or the NFL will ask him?

Because, even if true, I think none of the above happen and he's still the owner next season.

I'm not so sure.
Marge Schott and Donald Sterling were forced out merely for what they said (horrible, racist things, but still, just words).
Jerry Richardson was forced out for being a lecherous old man, but not a criminal.
If Bob Kraft is legitimately tied to human trafficking, even as just a consumer, I don't see how he remains the face of an NFL franchise. He may still own the team technically, he'll be very much relegated to the background.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

I'm not so sure.
Marge Schott and Donald Sterling were forced out merely for what they said (horrible, racist things, but still, just words).
Jerry Richardson was forced out for being a lecherous old man, but not a criminal.
If Bob Kraft is legitimately tied to human trafficking, even as just a consumer, I don't see how he remains the face of an NFL franchise. He may still own the team technically, he'll be very much relegated to the background.

So a Joe Ricketts role

[LON]

So a Joe Ricketts role

Until his emails leak.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

7 rings

6 super bowls
1 prostitution

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

7 rings

6 super bowls
1 prostitution

there's a deflategate joke in here somewhere. Already saw "Tugrule" on twitter.

[StillAWarrior]

there's a deflategate joke in here somewhere. Already saw "Tugrule" on twitter.

And, given that law enforcement has said that nobody is being cited that doesn't appear in surveillance video that includes the illegal act, there's a "spygate" joke in there too.

[Cheeks]

Yup. These old white guys scream about sex trafficking at the southern border while at the same time, they "meet up" with girls who speak no English, clearly are not here legally, and are forced to live in subhuman conditions.

Classy!

I think most of the screaming is about the rapes going on, this is a bit different....no?  Both are wrong, one is WAY WAY WAY more wrong. 


And now R. Kelly charged with 4 counts today, including minors.  Some messed up people

[Cheeks]

I'm not so sure.
Marge Schott and Donald Sterling were forced out merely for what they said (horrible, racist things, but still, just words).
Jerry Richardson was forced out for being a lecherous old man, but not a criminal.
If Bob Kraft is legitimately tied to human trafficking, even as just a consumer, I don't see how he remains the face of an NFL franchise. He may still own the team technically, he'll be very much relegated to the background.

He won't remain, if found guilty.  He's the head of the TV committee and there are some HUGE TV decisions being made right now which adds to a lot of interesting drama at this point.  His son is the head of the digital committee, also with big pending decisions coming.   Interesting times.

[jesmu84]

I think most of the screaming is about the rapes going on, this is a bit different....no?  Both are wrong, one is WAY WAY WAY more wrong. 


And now R. Kelly charged with 4 counts today, including minors.  Some messed up people

Are you really trying to qualify a "which one of these is worse" between rape and slavery?