NBA Thread 2019-20

[Uncle Rico]

He's peaked. No upside with low basketball IQ. Trade him before he walks, hey?

This is a take

[Jockey]

I remember when they said LeBron wasn't a winner.   Hell, I am old enough to remember when they said that Jordan was nothing but a scorer who didn't make his teammates better.


Be careful what you wish for, Buck's fans.

It ain’t Bucks fans. Just one fool.

[tower912]

Fair.

[MU82]

He's peaked. No upside with low basketball IQ. Trade him before he walks, hey?

Well, he does lack that certain something you seem to prefer in your athletes.

I mean, he ain't no Sam Hauser or Tyler Herro, that's for sure!

[Jockey]

Well, he does lack that certain something you seem to prefer in your athletes.

I mean, he ain't no Sam Hauser or Tyler Herro, that's for sure!

Very subtle, Mike.

Also very funny.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Not really.  Detracts from the debate.

[4everwarriors]

Well, he does lack that certain something you seem to prefer in your athletes.

I mean, he ain't no Sam Hauser or Tyler Herro, that's for sure!

Love Butler's game. So, your theory falls short.

[wadesworld]

I don’t know how someone could love Jimmy’s game but think Giannis is a low IQ player who’s already peaked. They’re essentially the same player but one is just much better at doing similar things than the other.

[4everwarriors]

How many times does Giannis need to run into a wall of defenders before he develops a mid range game? Cat has the yips at the free throw line and keeps jackin' up 3's because the defense will give him that all day. THA, hey?





Trade His Ass

[MU82]

How many times does Giannis need to run into a wall of defenders before he develops a mid range game? Cat has the yips at the free throw line and keeps jackin' up 3's because the defense will give him that all day. THA, hey?





Trade His Ass

I'm guessing you're the same "general manager" who said that Jordan could never win a championship because he was "too selfish."

A lot of geniuses said that in the 1980s. And zillions more would have said it if the interwebs had existed back then.

[wadesworld]

How many times does Giannis need to run into a wall of defenders before he develops a mid range game? Cat has the yips at the free throw line and keeps jackin' up 3's because the defense will give him that all day. THA, hey?





Trade His Ass

If he lets you know he’s not going to be resigning with you then yes, you trade him. But he won’t do that and the Bucks shouldn’t trade him. What they should do is get a true second star who will consistently show up. Easier said than done.

[4everwarriors]

Y kant MU ever recruit a playa like Jimmy Butler, hey?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

How many times does Giannis need to run into a wall of defenders before he develops a mid range game? Cat has the yips at the free throw line and keeps jackin' up 3's because the defense will give him that all day. THA, hey?





Trade His Ass

Top ten in 2 pt. FG% last two years.  Most efficient player in the NBA the last two seasons.  Top ranked defender in the league in numerous categories.

But he's a "low IQ player." 

No way you would get value back in a trade.

[Uncle Rico]

Top ten in 2 pt. FG% last two years.  Most efficient player in the NBA the last two seasons.  Top ranked defender in the league in numerous categories.

But he's a "low IQ player." 

No way you would get value back in a trade.

In the history of scoop, saying Giannis has “low basketball IQ” is a top-5 scoop take

[MU82]

In the history of scoop, saying Giannis has “low basketball IQ” is a top-5 scoop take

wat dew u eggspekt?

[4everwarriors]

Any truth to this, hey?


In an interview with ESPN's Rachel Nichols posted Friday, Harden seemingly attacked Giannis' style of play, arguing that the four-time All-Star and current favorite to repeat as MVP's methods take "no skill at all." “I wish I could just run and be 7 feet and just dunk. Like that takes no skill at all," Harden said.

[wadesworld]

Any truth to this, hey?


In an interview with ESPN's Rachel Nichols posted Friday, Harden seemingly attacked Giannis' style of play, arguing that the four-time All-Star and current favorite to repeat as MVP's methods take "no skill at all." “I wish I could just run and be 7 feet and just dunk. Like that takes no skill at all," Harden said.

Harden spends most of the game not even trying to make shots. Most of the time he’s just trying to trick refs into blowing their whistles.

Oh and Giannis actually pretends to care about two sides of the court.

[Uncle Rico]

Any truth to this, hey?


In an interview with ESPN's Rachel Nichols posted Friday, Harden seemingly attacked Giannis' style of play, arguing that the four-time All-Star and current favorite to repeat as MVP's methods take "no skill at all." “I wish I could just run and be 7 feet and just dunk. Like that takes no skill at all," Harden said.

No, there isn’t.  Well, I suppose that’s an excuse Harden can use as to why he’s so bad on defense. 

Thinking all Giannis does is dunk shows me Harden has a low basketball IQ

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yes.  GA's game wouldn't be the same if he were 5' 11".  But to say he has no skill at all, which is obviously hyberbole, is a bit much.  He's a 25 year old, likely two time MVP, who by all accounts is a good dude and apparently likes Milwaukee.

And you want the Bucks to trade him? 

[4everwarriors]

He's a complementary player who can't put on team on his back and win a championship. Either bring in an alpha player to play with him or trade him. His value will never be greater. Middleton is not that player. Terrible decision to max him and who knows what Bledsoe actually contributes?

[wadesworld]

He's a complementary player who can't put on team on his back and win a championship. Either bring in an alpha player to play with him or trade him. His value will never be greater. Middleton is not that player. Terrible decision to max him and who knows what Bledsoe actually contributes?

With you on Middleton and Bledsoe. You’re totally off on Giannis, though.

[MUBurrow]

I think its very possible we've seen Giannis' best season.  So if that's what you mean by peaked, I think there's a good argument to be made there.  I would say the same thing about Mike Trout. 

But that doesn't mean you cash in your chips on these guys.  For one, they can keep churning out these incredibly high quality seasons, even if they don't reach the levels in any single season that we've already seen. Plus, nine times out of ten, when you trade away they best player in a deal, you're getting seventy cents on the dollar. Considering that Giannis likes MKE enough to actually consider signing an extension to stay, a franchise like the Bucks will (and should) bet the farm on that guy every time.

[BM1090]

No, there isn’t.  Well, I suppose that’s an excuse Harden can use as to why he’s so bad on defense. 

Thinking all Giannis does is dunk shows me Harden has a low basketball IQ

Harden has actually graded out as a solid defender the past couple years. Tons of improvement on the ball and legitimately very good in the post. Struggles mightily off-ball, though.

[MUfan12]

He's a complementary player who can't put on team on his back and win a championship.

I disagree on "complimentary." But his game will need to change if he is to get to that next level, if nothing else so he stays healthy enough to do it.

You can't move him unless he says he's not gonna sign. Two-time MVPs just don't come here, and replacing that is going to be damn near impossible.

The challenge for the FO and Bud (or the next coach) is huge. You have to try to win with a superstar who can't shoot in a league that values shooting above all. Middleton is a really, really good player on an elite player's contract. Bled is erratic but crucial defensively. Both contracts could be really hard to move.

What they might need more than anything is a guy like Lou Williams who can come in and get buckets when the offense stalls.

[Skatastrophy]

Yes.  GA's game wouldn't be the same if he were 5' 11".  But to say he has no skill at all, which is obviously hyberbole, is a bit much.  He's a 25 year old, likely two time MVP, who by all accounts is a good dude and apparently likes Milwaukee.

And you want the Bucks to trade him? 

The (admittedly strong) argument is that he's leaving either way after next season, the Bucks might as well trade him to get something out of it.