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4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Mutaman

Quote from: MU82 on September 04, 2020, 09:24:05 AM
I've watched the Raptors' winning play a bazillion times and I still can't figure out how Anunoby got SO wide open.

If nothing else, it's an advertisement for not defending the IB passer. Make sure each of the other 4 are covered tightly and have your 5 in the lane to pick up cutters around screens. The Celtics did 4 of those 5 things -- Smart was on Siakim; Tatum was watching VanVleet; Brown was locked up with Gasol and Theis was at 5 ready to help with whomever ... but rather than have somebody defend Anunoby (who was a long way from the basket), Stevens elected to have his tall guy Tack pressure Lowry on the IB.

It took Lowry's long, perfect pass, and a dead-eye shot, but Anunoby wouldn't have been able to do it had a defender been locked on him.

At least that's how I see it. I'm certainly not claiming to know more than Brad Stevens. The Raptors were good and lucky, and now it's a series.

I remember many many years ago Red Auerbach saying (Red on Roundball) that u always defend the in bounds passer.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 04, 2020, 08:20:19 PM
Remember when the Wolves were mad when JFB was mean to their team in a practice?

I do remember. IIRC, some here were critical of JFB over it, thought he was being a prima donna. Good for Jimmy for escaping  those softies.


Its DJOver

No ones getting fired if it effects whether or not Giannis re-signes. If he doesn't, blow up the entire team and start of scratch.  If he does, offer Middleton and a first for an elite guard (preferably Murray or Mitchell).
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Skatastrophy

Tyler Herro has never lost an NBA playoff game.

Jae Crowder, in a contract year, has proven he can lock down Giannis and continue sniping from 3.

JFB can close games in the playoffs like a true NBA superstar.

Get out your brooms on Sunday, boys!

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Mutaman on September 04, 2020, 09:28:16 PM
I remember many many years ago Red Auerbach saying (Red on Roundball) that u always defend the in bounds passer.


Rick Pitino would likely disagree.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Jockey

Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 04, 2020, 10:52:07 PM
Tyler Herro has never lost an NBA playoff game.

Jae Crowder, in a contract year, has proven he can lock down Giannis and continue sniping from 3.

JFB can close games in the playoffs like a true NBA superstar.

Get out your brooms on Sunday, boys!

I love Crowder"s all around game, but he has not locked down Giannis. It has been the off ball defenders sagging to prevent Giannis from getting to the basket.

Skatastrophy

The bucks look much better with GA out. The game was a little frustrating to watch as a Heat fan with the guys mailing it in, but it was much more fun to watch as a basketball fan.

BTW, Giannis vs Crowder playoff stats show that Jae is doing a fine job, having spent the most time on GA of anyone on the Heat. Great job Jae - https://stats.nba.com/player/203507/head-to-head/

Jockey

Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 06, 2020, 06:35:42 PM
The bucks look much better with GA out. The game was a little frustrating to watch as a Heat fan with the guys mailing it in, but it was much more fun to watch as a basketball fan.

BTW, Giannis vs Crowder playoff stats show that Jae is doing a fine job, having spent the most time on GA of anyone on the Heat. Great job Jae - https://stats.nba.com/player/203507/head-to-head/


You need to watch the games. The Heat team defense is stopping Giannis - same as Toronto last year.

wadesworld

I was wondering who was going to have the hot take question of "are the Bucks better off without Giannis?"

4everwarriors

Trade 'im befour he walks, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 06, 2020, 08:06:46 PM
Trade 'im befour he walks, hey?

We'll see. It would probably be smart of him to take a 2 year deal given the cap situation due to covid. Let that go back up and then sign your long term deal where you want.

I heard from someone "in the know" that they Bucks want to get Beal. Middleton, Bledsoe, and a pick for Beal and cap filler?

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 06, 2020, 08:15:20 PM
Eye'd due dat deel, hey?

Absolutely. The question is would the Wizards?

4everwarriors

What would it take to pry Booker from the Suns?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUfan12

Quote from: BLM on September 06, 2020, 07:58:42 PM
I was wondering who was going to have the hot take question of "are the Bucks better off without Giannis?"

Their halfcourt offense might be. But no, they're not better.

The Sultan

Jesus...

Cmon people be smarter than this. Giannis is the best Buck since Kareem.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 06, 2020, 09:04:33 PM
Jesus...

Cmon people be smarter than this. Giannis is the best Buck since Kareem.

He's no Joey Hauser.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

I remember when they said LeBron wasn't a winner.   Hell, I am old enough to remember when they said that Jordan was nothing but a scorer who didn't make his teammates better.


Be careful what you wish for, Buck's fans.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 06, 2020, 09:04:33 PM
Jesus...

Cmon people be smarter than this. Giannis is the best Buck since Kareem.



He's peaked. No upside with low basketball IQ. Trade him before he walks, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

cheebs09

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 07, 2020, 07:26:25 AM


He's peaked. No upside with low basketball IQ. Trade him before he walks, hey?

He's only 25. Plenty of time to improve.

I think the reason the looked better was the supporting cast knew they needed to step up and with Giannis our, they were forced to adjust. It seemed like up until then, they kept the same strategy which was kind of just Giannis running into a wall.

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 07, 2020, 07:26:25 AM
He's peaked. No upside with low basketball IQ. Trade him before he walks, hey?


Low IQ?  Cmon...  On what possible basis could you say that?

He doesn't have a consistent outside shot.  That's pretty much the only thing, and granted in today's NBA that's a big thing, that would make him truly unstoppable.


Quote from: cheebs09 on September 07, 2020, 07:51:40 AM
He's only 25. Plenty of time to improve.

I think the reason the looked better was the supporting cast knew they needed to step up and with Giannis our, they were forced to adjust. It seemed like up until then, they kept the same strategy which was kind of just Giannis running into a wall.

Exactly.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

GA is one of the true superstars in the league.    A matchup nightmare.   Ridiculously talented.   And 25.   A franchise cornerstone, not a trading chip.   Unless you are convinced you can't re-sign him.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on September 07, 2020, 08:27:46 AM
GA is one of the true superstars in the league.    A matchup nightmare.   Ridiculously talented.   And 25.   A franchise cornerstone, not a trading chip.   Unless you are convinced you can't re-sign him.


Right.  And because the Bucks would have no leverage, they would never get back anything close to what they would have with GA.

Would they still be good?  Sure.  But they'd be Oklahoma City.  A decent team with no real chance of winning.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

#1599
How many championship ships had Jordan or LeBron won at 25?

Kobe won before he was 25, but he had Shaq.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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