Minutes for 18-19

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Since people were posting their minute allocations in the redshirt thread anyway, figure its time to get the annual minutes thread going.

Here's my rough estimate:

1: Joe 22, Markus 18
2: Markus 9, Greg 18, Sacar 13
3: Sam 10, Brendan 18, Sacar 7, Cain 5
4: Ed 22, Sam 18
5: Matt 15, Joey 15, Theo 10

Sam 28
Markus 27
Ed 22
Joe 22
Sacar 20
Brendan 18
Greg 18
Joey 15
Matt 15
Theo 10
Cain 5
Eke Garbage Time

So. Much. Depth. I love it. Realistically, I can't see an 11 man rotation and even a 10 man rotation seems unlikely once conference play hits. It could be that we see different players on different night depending on who is playing well.

[#UnleashSean]

Did Chartty die?

[#UnleashSean]

OHHHHHH I've been trolled. I thought you wanted Joey at the 1. LOL

[wadesworld]

Sam 30
Markus 27
Chartouney 24
Joey 22
Sacar 20
Ed 19
Jamal 14
Greg 14
Bailey 12
Theo 12
Matt 8
Eke Garbage Time

We'll go to OT a couple times.

[Herman Cain]

Since people were posting their minute allocations in the redshirt thread anyway, figure its time to get the annual minutes thread going.

Here's my rough estimate:

1: Joe 22, Markus 18
2: Markus 9, Greg 18, Sacar 13
3: Sam 10, Brendan 18, Sacar 7, Cain 5
4: Ed 22, Sam 18
5: Matt 15, Joey 15, Theo 10

Sam 28
Markus 27
Ed 22
Joe 22
Sacar 20
Brendan 18
Greg 18
Joey 15
Matt 15
Theo 10
Cain 5
Eke Garbage Time

So. Much. Depth. I love it. Realistically, I can't see an 11 man rotation and even a 10 man rotation seems unlikely once conference play hits. It could be that we see different players on different night depending on who is playing well.

Why so much Jamal hate? The kid is an extremely talented player who played very well last year. We need guys like him to compete at the highest level.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

My opinion (copied from redshirt thread):


PG: Chartouney (25), Markus (10), Greg (5)
SG: Markus (20), Sacar (15), Cain (5)
SF: Sam (25), Cain (10), Bailey (5)
PF: Morrow (25), Sam (5), Joey (5), Bailey (5)
C: John (15), Heldt (15), Joey (10)

Eke: Garbage time only

Totals:
Markus: 30
Sam: 30
Morrow: 25
Chartouney: 25
Sacar: 15
Theo: 15
Heldt: 15
Joey: 15
Cain: 15
Bailey: 10
Greg: 5
Ike: Garbage time only

Going to be tough for all of Cain, Bailey and Greg to find minutes. And honestly, I think 30 minutes for both Markus and Sam is a low estimate.  Sure, we'll have the depth to let them rest more in cupcakes, and not super competitive games, but those guys are playing big minutes in the big contests.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Why so much Jamal hate? The kid is an extremely talented player who played very well last year. We need guys like him to compete at the highest level.

Again, I'd love to see your minutes allocation TW. Not sure how exactly you see big minutes for Greg and Cain on this roster (assuming everyone is healthy and no redshirts).

[We R Final Four]

Since people were posting their minute allocations in the redshirt thread anyway, figure its time to get the annual minutes thread going.

Here's my rough estimate:

1: Joe 22, Markus 18
2: Markus 9, Greg 18, Sacar 13
3: Sam 10, Brendan 18, Sacar 7, Cain 5
4: Ed 22, Sam 18
5: Matt 15, Joey 15, Theo 10

Sam 28
Markus 27
Ed 22
Joe 22
Sacar 20
Brendan 18
Greg 18
Joey 15
Matt 15
Theo 10
Cain 5
Eke Garbage Time

So. Much. Depth. I love it. Realistically, I can't see an 11 man rotation and even a 10 man rotation seems unlikely once conference play hits. It could be that we see different players on different night depending on who is playing well.

Are these your average minutes for the season? Non con/con/tourney?
Sam will schedule to play more than 28 min nightly.
Markus will schedule to play more than 27 min. Nightly.
Sam/MH will have bad nights/foul out/injury to bring your average down......but they will play more than you project.
BB will not average 18 min/game for the season.
Joey will not play all of his minutes exclusively at the 5. I believe there are bigger plans than a "small lineup".

[Floorslapper]

Since people were posting their minute allocations in the redshirt thread anyway, figure its time to get the annual minutes thread going.

Here's my rough estimate:

1: Joe 22, Markus 18
2: Markus 9, Greg 18, Sacar 13
3: Sam 10, Brendan 18, Sacar 7, Cain 5
4: Ed 22, Sam 18
5: Matt 15, Joey 15, Theo 10

Sam 28
Markus 27
Ed 22
Joe 22
Sacar 20
Brendan 18
Greg 18
Joey 15
Matt 15
Theo 10
Cain 5
Eke Garbage Time

So. Much. Depth. I love it. Realistically, I can't see an 11 man rotation and even a 10 man rotation seems unlikely once conference play hits. It could be that we see different players on different night depending on who is playing well.

If Cain gets 5 minutes a game, my gut says he transfers.  I get the redshirt idea around him, yet it doesn't make sense from the perspective that he is one of our top 7-8 players currently, and you don't take his talent off this team (or any MU team), next year or the year after.

My view - redshirt him this year, he's highly likely to at best play 2 more seasons at MU.  Can't see him getting to a 5th year with his skill set/arc, and his being "young" for his class.

[GGGG]

Any thoughts that Joey might not be getting the minutes we are projecting?  He's coming off an injury.  He won't have the experience like Cain.  Maybe he gets about 10 per game and Cain gets more.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Why so much Jamal hate? The kid is an extremely talented player who played very well last year. We need guys like him to compete at the highest level.

Where are you getting hate from? I just wrote an article where I talked about how Cain has the most NBA potential of anyone on the team.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Are these your average minutes for the season? Non con/con/tourney?
Sam will schedule to play more than 28 min nightly.
Markus will schedule to play more than 27 min. Nightly.
Sam/MH will have bad nights/foul out/injury to bring your average down......but they will play more than you project.
BB will not average 18 min/game for the season.
Joey will not play all of his minutes exclusively at the 5. I believe there are bigger plans than a "small lineup".

I disagree on Sam/Markus, in Wojo's one team with depth no one averaged more than 28 minutes a game. I think Wojo goes back to that again.

I've only heard great things about Bailey. I'm very optimistic about him. Could be wrong.

Joey is the third biggest guy on the team, no small ball necessary.

Why not share your guesses?

[We R Final Four]

I disagree on Sam/Markus, in Wojo's one team with depth no one averaged more than 28 minutes a game. I think Wojo goes back to that again.

I've only heard great things about Bailey. I'm very optimistic about him. Could be wrong.

Joey is the third biggest guy on the team, no small ball necessary.

Why not share your guesses?

Disagreeing on hypotheticals.....exactly.

[TheREALwrk]

Markus: 28
Sam: 28
Morrow: 25
Chartouney: 25
Bailey: 20
Sacar: 20
Cain: 20
Theo: 15
Joey: 15
Heldt: 4
Greg: RS
Ike: Garbage time only

[TheyWereCones]

My best guess would be this:

PG: Joe (20), Markus (20)
SG: Markus (10), Sacar (20), Greg (10)
SF: Sam (10), Jamal (15), Brendan (15)
PF: Ed (15), Sam (15), Joey (10)
C: Theo (15), Matt (15), Ed (10)

Ike - As they can fit him in.  He will get more time once Heldt graduates.  We'll need him next year so I hope he gets plenty of garbage minutes and his back heals up.

I could see Greg getting more on any given night.  I could also see Joey getting more, but he's coming off an injury and may be a bit raw.  Plus we are just so deep.  We will find out!  I don't think anyone averages more than 30.  That would make no sense to me even with how good Markus & Sam are.  Anyway, an argument could be made for any of those 11 outside of Ike for why they should get more or less time.

People will slump, injuries/illness will happen.  I think on most nights it will be closer to a 10-man rotation, and it could very well be a round robin for who is the 11th man.  It's certainly not obvious to me who on this team will regularly not get 10 minutes.  Great problem to have.  Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Herman Cain]

Where are you getting hate from? I just wrote an article where I talked about how Cain has the most NBA potential of anyone on the team.

You also just put him at 5 minutes per game.

[fjm]

I'll do mine later.
But Tamu: Cain with 5 total min per game? He's gone at semester then.

Therealwrk: Heldt at 4 min per game? Yikes bikes.

[fjm]

Sam 30
Markus 30
Ed 22
Joe 22
Sacar 16
Brendan 14
Greg 15
Joey 15
Matt 15
Cain 12
Theo 10
Eke Garbage Time

Gees when you put it down like this. Someone is gone at semester. Such a log jam at the 3-4.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You also just put him at 5 minutes per game.

Why does that mean I hate him?

Who do you hate? I assume you agree that we won't be running an 11 man rotation. That means that Ike and someone else are going to be regulated to benchwarming duties. Do you hate Greg? Theo? Brendan? Joey? Matt? Sacar?

Personally, Jamal makes the most sense to me. I think Greg/Sacar are better than he is at the moment, I've only heard glowing reviews about Bailey, I haven't heard as many glowing reviews about Joey but enough to think he cracks the rotation, and as trendy as positionless basketball is I think we are going to see at least 25 minutes a night of Matt/Theo at the 5. Jamal is the odd man out in this scenario due to depth at his position.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'll do mine later.
But Tamu: Cain with 5 total min per game? He's gone at semester then.

Therealwrk: Heldt at 4 min per game? Yikes bikes.

I can guarantee you that we won't be running an 11 man rotation. Ike and someone else will be riding the pine most of the season.

[GGGG]

I'll do mine later.
But Tamu: Cain with 5 total min per game? He's gone at semester then.

If Cain leaves at semester because he is getting only 5 mpg, well then good luck to him.

No coach should be giving players minutes just so they don't transfer.

[4everwarriors]

Due deez heer minutes vary if uron AT&T, Verizon, orr Sprint plans, hey?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

You also just put him at 5 minutes per game.

let's see how you'd handle it.  You continue to make comments, but have yet to show how you'd get Greg and Cain big minutes. 

[skianth16]

I disagree on Sam/Markus, in Wojo's one team with depth no one averaged more than 28 minutes a game. I think Wojo goes back to that again.

I've only heard great things about Bailey. I'm very optimistic about him. Could be wrong.

Joey is the third biggest guy on the team, no small ball necessary.

Why not share your guesses?

Wojo hasn't had guys of the same caliber as Markus and Sam. And while there may be games where they can play less than 30 minutes, I think once conference play rolls around, you'll see both of them playing over 30 every night. If you look at other top players in the conference (1st and 2nd team) in the last several years, these guys are typically averaging 30+. Unless Jay Wright is missing something by playing his NBA-caliber guys so much, I would expect Wojo to do the same this year with our top players. Gotta let the big dogs eat.

[Floorslapper]

If Cain leaves at semester because he is getting only 5 mpg, well then good luck to him.

No coach should be giving players minutes just so they don't transfer.

Kids transfer when they believe they are better than the players, playing in front of them.  When their coach doesn't see their talent, they move on - like any rational person would.

Cain is a top 7-8 guy on this roster, possibly a Top 5.  Huge difference maker on defensive end.  Not a redshirt candidate - yet I also do get TAMU's point - and at one point felt it might make sense to redshirt him this season.  But, if anyone is to redshirt, the best candidate would be Elliott.