NCAA recent investigations

[muguru]

Mark Phelps has already been fired for other infractions IIRC

That is correct

[The Sultan]

Mark Phelps has already been fired for other infractions IIRC

Yeah I forgot about that.

[MU82]

What an a$$ to call BS on ESPN for reporting this a year ago. Miller is a jerk for calling a reporter's honesty into question when he knew it was true.

This has been going on forever. Somebody doesn't like the truth, so he/she shoots the messenger.

Good work by the reporter. I hope Miller crashes and burns, and he takes his program down with him.

Nico ... we have scholarships open, baby!

[WhiteTrash]

Sean Miller's nightmare keeps getting worse everyday. I'm beginning to think that UA fires him soon and doesn't wait for the NCAA investigation to start. Might be in Miller's best interest to go quickly and quietly to limit the information releases that could tarnish his reputation even more (if that's possible).

[The Sultan]

He won't leave quietly with the amount of money still on the table.

[muguru]

Sean Miller's nightmare keeps getting worse everyday. I'm beginning to think that UA fires him soon and doesn't wait for the NCAA investigation to start. Might be in Miller's best interest to go quickly and quietly to limit the information releases that could tarnish his reputation even more (if that's possible).

The problem is...there is ZERO proof..that will be his argument. Just the word of a con man. Now, we here all know better, but Miller could/will make that argument.

[Billy Hoyle]

The problem is...there is ZERO proof..that will be his argument. Just the word of a con man. Now, we here all know better, but Miller could/will make that argument.

head coach accountability will get him.

[WhiteTrash]

The problem is...there is ZERO proof..that will be his argument. Just the word of a con man. Now, we here all know better, but Miller could/will make that argument.

Maybe, but there more wire tap recording that could be released and eventually turned over to the NCAA.

Pitino claims to this day that there is no evidence of him being involved in payments to recruits and yet Louisville sent him packing and no other school will touch him.

[LAZER]

The problem is...there is ZERO proof..that will be his argument. Just the word of a con man. Now, we here all know better, but Miller could/will make that argument.

Well his assistant coach (who had been with Miller for 10+ years) was on tape saying Miller was paying Ayton $10k a month.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Wasn't Mark Phelps an assistant under Miller?

Squirmy.

[Jockey]

Well his assistant coach (who had been with Miller for 10+ years) was on tape saying Miller was paying Ayton $10k a month.

From eSPN:

Federal prosecutors on Wednesday played a recording to the jury of a phone call in which former Arizona assistant Emanuel "Book" Richardson told aspiring agent Christian Dawkins that Wildcats coach Sean Miller was paying star center Deandre Ayton $10,000 per month while he was enrolled there.

Prosecutors played the call, which was intercepted by wiretaps on June 20, 2017, to the jury near the end of their case.

[79Warrior]

Well his assistant coach (who had been with Miller for 10+ years) was on tape saying Miller was paying Ayton $10k a month.

Does anyone have tape of Miller? If Miller's voice is nowhere to be heard then it will be difficult to get him without stronger evidence.

[The Sultan]

Again, Arizona IMO is gathering enough evidence to fire him for cause. He may not be prosecuted like others, but he very likely will be out of a job soon.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Wasn't there something wonky with Miller's contact where he actually is owed more money if he's fired for cause then if he's just fired? I remember hearing that somewhere

[The Sultan]

Wasn't there something wonky with Miller's contact where he actually is owed more money if he's fired for cause then if he's just fired? I remember hearing that somewhere

No, if he is fired for cause he loses a TON of money.  His entire "longevity fund," which is currently worth $4 million plus.  This is likely why Arizona is being real careful.

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/sean-miller-s-revised-contract-terms-include-threat-of-a/article_2dee0bde-5b01-57bc-ad94-dcf3d5a761a0.html

[MomofMUltiples]

Miller didn't do anything illegal by paying Ayton; he won't be prosecuted for that.  Miller can give his money to whomever he wants (however, he's likely liable for gift taxes on that money, unless he can claim that is was "miscellaneous income" for Ayton, in which case Ayton is a tax dodger if he failed to report it).

If what Dawkins/Richardson said is true, then Miller has committed an NCAA violation.  The NCAA should come down hard on Arizona, and Arizona should come down hard on Miller.  This investigation will probably take years and result in the death penalty for Grand Canyon University.

[The Sultan]

Miller didn't do anything illegal by paying Ayton; he won't be prosecuted for that.  Miller can give his money to whomever he wants

Then why are the feds involved in this at all?

[brewcity77]

Miller didn't do anything illegal by paying Ayton; he won't be prosecuted for that.  Miller can give his money to whomever he wants (however, he's likely liable for gift taxes on that money, unless he can claim that is was "miscellaneous income" for Ayton, in which case Ayton is a tax dodger if he failed to report it).

If what Dawkins/Richardson said is true, then Miller has committed an NCAA violation.  The NCAA should come down hard on Arizona, and Arizona should come down hard on Miller.  This investigation will probably take years and result in the death penalty for Grand Canyon University.

That's not true according to tax law. You can't just give unlimited gifts to whomever you choose without paying taxes on it. Maybe this isn't current, but at least that's what the IRS says.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-news/at-01-31.pdf

[Marcus92]

Since our mascot is the Golden Eagles, shouldn't bird law be the appropriate precedent?

[Jockey]

Then why are the feds involved in this at all?

Tax fraud is a federal crime.

[WhiteTrash]

Then why are the feds involved in this at all?

Are you following this story at all? There has been multiple convictions of federal crimes and more to come. The feds don't don't mess around and go fishing for criminals,  their conviction rate is over 90%.

[The Sultan]

Are you following this story at all? There has been multiple convictions of federal crimes and more to come. The feds don't don't mess around and go fishing for criminals,  their conviction rate is over 90%.

Are you following the thread at all?  I was asking mom why the feds are involved at all if "Miller didn't do anything illegal by paying Ayton."   A question which she never answered.

You are 100% right that the feds don't get involved unless its serious.  That's the point I was making through my question.

[WhiteTrash]

Are you following the thread at all?  I was asking mom why the feds are involved at all if "Miller didn't do anything illegal by paying Ayton."   A question which she never answered.

You are 100% right that the feds don't get involved unless its serious.  That's the point I was making through my question.

My apologies. I was wrong. You made a great point.

[Cheeks]

NCAA has formally notified Arizona it is opening an investigation into the men's basketball program.

[war1980rior]

Not good for AZ.  Thanks Cheeks!