NCAA recent investigations

[wadesworld]

So there are wire taps with discussions of paying for both Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson involving schools that wound up getting neither of those guys.  But I'm guessing Chicos thinks they both landed at Duke with the option of receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from other schools or going to Duke for free (despite one of the player's families filing for bankruptcy in 2008, listing their household income at $44,000.00, and selling their home in a trustee's sale - see: foreclosure - in 2011, and then living in a neighborhood where houses were valued between $750K-$1.5M).

Things that make you go "Hmm..."

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So all people would break the law/rules if given enough money? I'm not sure I believe that.

[LAZER]

So all people would break the law/rules if given enough money? I'm not sure I believe that.

Who is saying that?

[wadesworld]

So all people would break the law/rules if given enough money? I'm not sure I believe that.

Just a coincidence that both these kids were offered large amounts of money to play basketball and both, given 350+ options, wind up at the very same school without taking any money.  Hmm...

And then there's that whole bankrupt in Phoenix to mansion in LA status.  Again, hmm...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Just a coincidence that both these kids were offered large amounts of money to play basketball and both, given 350+ options, wind up at the very same school without taking any money.  Hmm...

And then there's that whole bankrupt in Phoenix to mansion in LA status.  Again, hmm...

One of these is compelling evidence for me. The other is not.

[Cheeks]

So there are wire taps with discussions of paying for both Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson involving schools that wound up getting neither of those guys.  But I'm guessing Chicos thinks they both landed at Duke with the option of receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from other schools or going to Duke for free (despite one of the player's families filing for bankruptcy in 2008, listing their household income at $44,000.00, and selling their home in a trustee's sale - see: foreclosure - in 2011, and then living in a neighborhood where houses were valued between $750K-$1.5M).

Things that make you go "Hmm..."

Should be easy to prove.

And if it is happening, then why do we bother going after elite kids at all because we have no chance.

[wadesworld]

Should be easy to prove.

And if it is happening, then why do we bother going after elite kids at all because we have no chance.

Because if we've learned anything the NCAA has shown that it definitely does everything it can to lay down the hammer on those cheating the game, so because Duke hasn't been punished it means they're definitely innocent.

So is Will Wade.

[MomofMUltiples]

And Rick Pitino. Except maybe actually, he is.

[Cheeks]

Because if we've learned anything the NCAA has shown that it definitely does everything it can to lay down the hammer on those cheating the game, so because Duke hasn't been punished it means they're definitely innocent.

So is Will Wade.

Not really my point.....why should we go after the elite prospects, despite having Greek Freak here, beautiful new arena, etc, if they are going to land at places full of $$ that never get hammered?  Seems a waste of time from a recruiting strategy.

Thought this was interesting from Mr. Bagley...doesn't prove anything one way or the other.

https://twitter.com/TeamBagley/status/1121556112891727872

[brewcity77]

Thought this was interesting from Mr. Bagley...doesn't prove anything one way or the other.

https://twitter.com/TeamBagley/status/1121556112891727872

The same Mr Bagley that took hundreds of thousands of dollars from Nike to fund an AAU program that only existed to promote his son? Yeah...he NEVER had his hands out 🙄😂🤣

[wadesworld]

The same Mr Bagley that took hundreds of thousands of dollars from Nike to fund an AAU program that only existed to promote his son? Yeah...he NEVER had his hands out 🙄😂🤣

Yup. That's the one. The one that had a family household income of $44K, filed for bankruptcy, and had a foreclosed home...and then was living in a neighborhood where houses were valued between $750K and $1.5M.

Same "MF" guy.

[Jables1604]

Terrible news for Sean miller today. Wiretaps caught a conversation in which it was stated (by a 3rd party-not Miller) that "Sean had fronted" the $100K supposedly payed to Ayton

[WhiteTrash]

Terrible news for Sean miller today. Wiretaps caught a conversation in which it was stated (by a 3rd party-not Miller) that "Sean had fronted" the $100K supposedly payed to Ayton

What an a$$ to call BS on ESPN for reporting this a year ago. Miller is a jerk for calling a reporter's honesty into question when he knew it was true.

I assume this is the end of Sean Miller in college basketball. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, NOT.

This might be terrible for Miller, but its good for college basketball.

[DoctorV]

What an a$$ to call BS on ESPN for reporting this a year ago. Miller is a jerk for calling a reporter's honesty into question when he knew it was true.

I assume this is the end of Sean Miller in college basketball. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, NOT.

This might be terrible for Miller, but its good for college basketball.

I guess one could say Sean Miller is White Trash

[WhiteTrash]

I guess one could say Sean Miller is White Trash

Ha! I like it. Assuming you're not defending Miller.

[wadesworld]

I'll believe the NCAA does anything to any of these coaches when...well, they actually do something.  For once.

[Cheeks]

I'll believe the NCAA does anything to any of these coaches when...well, they actually do something.  For once.

For once?

[wadesworld]

For once?

For once.

[lawdog77]

Because if we've learned anything the NCAA has shown that it definitely does everything it can to lay down the hammer on those cheating the game, so because Duke hasn't been punished it means they're definitely innocent.

So is Will Wade.

You should know. He is your namesake, after all.

[Cheeks]

For once.

So coaches have never been given show cause penalties lasting years? 

[4everwarriors]

What an a$$ to call BS on ESPN for reporting this a year ago. Miller is a jerk for calling a reporter's honesty into question when he knew it was true.

I assume this is the end of Sean Miller in college basketball. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, NOT.

This might be terrible for Miller, but its good for college basketball.

Took a page outta da Ryan Braun manual of bullchttin', aina?

[rocket surgeon]

What an a$$ to call BS on ESPN for reporting this a year ago. Miller is a jerk for calling a reporter's honesty into question when he knew it was true.

I assume this is the end of Sean Miller in college basketball. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, NOT.

This might be terrible for Miller, but its good for college basketball.

miller is white knuckling it, grabbing for anything he can.  playing on a "reporters" honesty unfortunately or not, works in some public opinion circles. 

[muguru]

Thing is, agree or disagree with it, Miller can spin this as "there's no solid proof", and even though we all know better, he's right, there isn't. That MIGHT be enough for Arizona to keep him, but I'm not sure it's going to help him with the NCAA(if they ever get around to enforcing any of this).

I mean at worst, Miller should get fired because he should have known about this right?? A Head coach is responsible for everything that goes on in his program according to the NCAA, just ask Pitino.

[The Sultan]

Arizona has every reason to wait at this point. The more that comes out, the more that a "for cause" firing becomes a solid case, and the more chance they get to hold onto their freshman class.  It's too late for them to do a full-fledged coaching search anyway.  They can put Mark Phelps in there as interim, and he would have no shot at the regular job anyway.  Then they can do a search next year.

[MuMark]

Arizona has every reason to wait at this point. The more that comes out, the more that a "for cause" firing becomes a solid case, and the more chance they get to hold onto their freshman class.  It's too late for them to do a full-fledged coaching search anyway.  They can put Mark Phelps in there as interim, and he would have no shot at the regular job anyway.  Then they can do a search next year.

Mark Phelps has already been fired for other infractions IIRC