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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #350 on: March 08, 2019, 10:18:40 PM »
Why suspend the coach and not, if the story is true, the ineligible player?

Excellent question.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #351 on: March 09, 2019, 08:19:36 AM »
Why suspend the coach and not, if the story is true, the ineligible player?
Cuz then they might lose, duh 🙄

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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #352 on: March 09, 2019, 05:50:49 PM »
Wee run a kleen program. Got dat goin' fore us, hey?
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #353 on: March 09, 2019, 06:15:17 PM »
Sean Miller just said goodbye to Arizona fans??

https://twitter.com/MattGOAZCATS/status/1104526635309531136
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #354 on: March 09, 2019, 07:48:49 PM »
Not sure what direction schools will go in hiring. Do schools take a chance on hiring the assistant coach who lands the 5 star players? Might be a little gun shy on that.

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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #355 on: March 09, 2019, 10:41:19 PM »
He knows what's on the wiretaps. Bill Self next?

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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #356 on: March 11, 2019, 08:13:41 AM »
Gotta come down hard on LSU and Creighton for the problems at Kansas and Zona

I think Tark would agree.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #357 on: March 11, 2019, 12:26:09 PM »
Sean Miller just said goodbye to Arizona fans??

https://twitter.com/MattGOAZCATS/status/1104526635309531136

Dead man walking...He might just get fired cause they suck. Zona is looking for an excuse to get rid of him other than the fact that he paid recruits. Having a bad year is a great excuse.

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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #358 on: March 11, 2019, 12:36:07 PM »
Wee run a kleen program. Got dat goin' fore us, hey?

Yes, a clean program and successful on the court, too.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #359 on: March 11, 2019, 12:37:10 PM »
Dead man walking...He might just get fired cause they suck. Zona is looking for an excuse to get rid of him other than the fact that he paid recruits. Having a bad year is a great excuse.

Kansas and Arizona firing coaches would open up two big jobs and unleash potential domino hiring everywhere.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #360 on: March 11, 2019, 12:51:53 PM »
Why suspend the coach and not, if the story is true, the ineligible player?

They held out the player.

We just know right now that Wade is on tape making an offer, we don't know if the player took the offer. But, LSU is doing the smart thing holding out a potentially ineligible player until that is decided.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #361 on: March 11, 2019, 01:02:35 PM »
They held out the player.

We just know right now that Wade is on tape making an offer, we don't know if the player took the offer. But, LSU is doing the smart thing holding out a potentially ineligible player until that is decided.

He's not on tape making a irrefutable offer. Might be some tortured logic involved but since the player's name is Smart, Wade can spin it all sorts of ways that will give him plausible deniability.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #362 on: March 11, 2019, 01:20:45 PM »
Dead man walking...He might just get fired cause they suck. Zona is looking for an excuse to get rid of him other than the fact that he paid recruits. Having a bad year is a great excuse.

Not so sure about that. Going to cost a few bucks to fire him

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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #363 on: March 11, 2019, 01:35:52 PM »
Not so sure about that. Going to cost a few bucks to fire him

Won't cost them anything if they can fire him for cause. Most modern coaches have clauses in their contracts that they can't run afoul of the law, NCAA, or "morality" issues. Sean Miller looks like he's going to run afoul of at least two of those which I think gets Zona out of the buy out though it will definitely go to court if Miller wants to play hardball.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #364 on: March 11, 2019, 01:45:49 PM »
Won't cost them anything if they can fire him for cause. Most modern coaches have clauses in their contracts that they can't run afoul of the law, NCAA, or "morality" issues. Sean Miller looks like he's going to run afoul of at least two of those which I think gets Zona out of the buy out though it will definitely go to court if Miller wants to play hardball.

And maybe not.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/quirk-in-sean-millers-contract-gets-him-more-from-arizona-if-hes-fired-for-cause/

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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #365 on: March 11, 2019, 01:50:36 PM »
And maybe not.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/quirk-in-sean-millers-contract-gets-him-more-from-arizona-if-hes-fired-for-cause/

and I thought Buzz's MU contact was ridiculous.

all the result of a drafting error.  The UA General Council should be polishing up his or her resume for this one:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2018/02/24/drafting-error-that-could-cost-university-of-arizona-millions-if-sean-miller-is-fired/#468c4bf7522d

"A sports agent who has represented coaches in contract negotiations told me that no agent is stupid enough to ask for terms like what are found within Miller's agreement "because no school in their right mind would say yes." However, the contract is binding on the parties, and it states that it replaces all prior employment contracts and amendments between the parties."
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #366 on: March 11, 2019, 01:58:04 PM »
and I thought Buzz's MU contact was ridiculous.

all the result of a drafting error.  The UA General Council should be polishing up his or her resume for this one:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2018/02/24/drafting-error-that-could-cost-university-of-arizona-millions-if-sean-miller-is-fired/#468c4bf7522d

"A sports agent who has represented coaches in contract negotiations told me that no agent is stupid enough to ask for terms like what are found within Miller's agreement "because no school in their right mind would say yes." However, the contract is binding on the parties, and it states that it replaces all prior employment contracts and amendments between the parties."
So if Arizona were to fire him without cause they would save $5M?  Would that result in Miller filing a lawsuit that basically says "C'mon, everybody knows you fired me for cause because I cheated."  I suppose he would not do that and he'd live with the $5M, but that would be funny.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #368 on: March 11, 2019, 03:01:17 PM »
So if Arizona were to fire him without cause they would save $5M?  Would that result in Miller filing a lawsuit that basically says "C'mon, everybody knows you fired me for cause because I cheated."  I suppose he would not do that and he'd live with the $5M, but that would be funny.

UA is so screwed here if they make a change.  Whatever they do Miller will do everything in his power to claim the firing was "for cause."
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #369 on: March 11, 2019, 03:15:30 PM »
I'm not so sure.  Contract clauses can be void if they are shown to be "contrary to public policy", i.e. not in the public good, or illegal.
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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #370 on: April 19, 2019, 11:18:25 PM »

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Re: NCAA recent investigations
« Reply #371 on: April 20, 2019, 06:47:03 AM »
https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/attorney-claims-sean-miller-is-clearly-paying-players-at-arizona-but-theres-one-slight-problem

Welp. Guess we're not getting any info on Miller or Wade.

What a joke

This saves them from testifying, but if defense enters it as evidence, it can still be used by the NCAA. Will be interesting to see if they go after them at all as guilt seems like a foregone conclusion.
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