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Author Topic: 2018 NBA Draft  (Read 16932 times)

MerrittsMustache

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2018, 10:58:42 AM »
The last time I heard this much "please don't take him" talk from Bulls fans had to do with Noah. Most Bulls fans I knew (and I knew a lot of them) desperately wanted the team to take anybody else.

Doesn't mean y'all are "wrong" about Young, of course.

That's fair. However, I do feel like more of the "don't take him" talk around Noah was because he was obnoxious and viewed as a clown. He's the prototypical "I like him on my team but would hate him on another." Personally, I don't want Young because I view him as a stat-chasing chucker.

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2018, 11:22:19 AM »
That's fair. However, I do feel like more of the "don't take him" talk around Noah was because he was obnoxious and viewed as a clown. He's the prototypical "I like him on my team but would hate him on another." Personally, I don't want Young because I view him as a stat-chasing chucker.

So, there are reasons why Young might not be worth a top 10 pick (size, athleticism, durability questions), but being a "stat-chasing chucker" isn't one of them.
It's bizarre to me that a guy who easily led the nation in assists and singlehandedly dragged a mediocre team to a tournament bid (that they probably didn't deserve, but still) is constantly portrayed as some sort of selfish, me-first guy. Young dominated the ball at Oklahoma, because that's what his coach told and needed him to do if that team was going to have any chance to win games. To think Young would be the exact same guy surrounded by NBA talent is, I think, misguided.


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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2018, 11:58:28 AM »
The last time I heard this much "please don't take him" talk from Bulls fans had to do with Noah. Most Bulls fans I knew (and I knew a lot of them) desperately wanted the team to take anybody else.

Doesn't mean y'all are "wrong" about Young, of course.

I was certainly in that boat.  And ended up loving him as a player.  I couldn't have been more wrong.

And for the record, I am not against Young at all.  Sure seems like a guy that can do everything on the court.

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2018, 12:17:20 PM »
The last time I heard this much "please don't take him" talk from Bulls fans had to do with Noah. Most Bulls fans I knew (and I knew a lot of them) desperately wanted the team to take anybody else.

Doesn't mean y'all are "wrong" about Young, of course.

Personally, I had no issue with Noah, aside from thinking he was a bit of a turd at the time but I know that was a common sentiment.

Of course I could be way off about Young but I like other players better and I'm fine with Dunn at the one.  He still has a lot of work to do but I like the size and defense he brings to the position.   

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2018, 03:52:07 PM »
First 6 picks, according to Woj (though he couched it as this is how it's "taking shape"):
1. Ayton
2. Bagley
3. Doncic
4. Jackson
5. Bamba
6. Young

« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 04:07:12 PM by Pakuni »

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2018, 05:34:23 PM »
First 6 picks, according to Woj (though he couched it as this is how it's "taking shape"):
1. Ayton
2. Bagley
3. Doncic
4. Jackson
5. Bamba
6. Young

Maybe just a typo, but maybe not... He didn't list a team with Jackson

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2018, 07:18:19 PM »
Meh, really wanted the Bulls to take a flyer on Porter. But I guess they were the first to evaluate their injury.

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2018, 07:33:27 PM »
Meh, really wanted the Bulls to take a flyer on Porter. But I guess they were the first to evaluate their injury.

Pax gonna Pax

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2018, 07:34:45 PM »
Meh, really wanted the Bulls to take a flyer on Porter. But I guess they were the first to evaluate their injury.

Pax gonna Pax

And yet Porter Jr is still out there. Pax deserves his share of criticism but there's a reason he hasn't been drafted yet.

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« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2018, 07:39:30 PM »
And yet Porter Jr is still out there. Pax deserves his share of criticism but there's a reason he hasn't been drafted yet.

It's not as though Porter is miles about the other talent at the top end of the draft.  If he was he would be worth the risk, but playing it safe and getting similar talent is the right move.

Pakuni

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2018, 08:12:07 PM »
Can't shake the feeling that the Bulls took the big man version of Lu Deng.

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« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2018, 08:21:05 PM »
Can't shake the feeling that the Bulls took the big man version of Lu Deng.

That's somehow a bad thing at 7?

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2018, 08:23:41 PM »
DDV BABYYY

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2018, 08:25:43 PM »
Looks like he'll be playing in the Chaluparena next year after all. I think that's a good pick for the Bucks.

Nice scorer off the bench and can shoot, which the Bucks need.

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2018, 08:26:10 PM »
Nice pick. Hope it works out.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2018, 08:29:39 PM »
A bonus is that MPD will like the Bucks pick too!

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2018, 08:32:46 PM »
A bonus is that MPD will like the Bucks pick too!

It wasn’t teal so I’m going to call you on it- brutal, not funny and racial profiling
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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2018, 08:36:54 PM »
It wasn’t teal so I’m going to call you on it- brutal, not funny and racial profiling


Ooooo!!!  You're "calling me on it?"  Whatever will I do????

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2018, 08:37:19 PM »
The L-7 in this bunch are just having a tough, tough time letting go of the election aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2018, 08:41:06 PM »
It wasn’t teal so I’m going to call you on it- brutal, not funny and racial profiling

Much like some members of the MPD

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2018, 08:41:40 PM »
The L-7 in this bunch are just having a tough, tough time letting go of the election aina?

Oh irony.  Sweet, delicious, irony.  You never disappoint.

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2018, 08:44:34 PM »
The L-7 in this bunch are just having a tough, tough time letting go of the election aina?

 ?-(

What does the election have to do with the NBA draft?

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2018, 08:49:10 PM »
That's somehow a bad thing at 7?

Not necessarily bad ... just not particularly good. Deng, even in his best years, amounted to no more than a third option on a contender. He was never a lead/go-to guy. IMO, iwhen you're picking this high you need to aim for guys with that kind of potential. Instead, the Bulls played it safe.

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2018, 08:56:00 PM »
I like Divencenzo, but think I would’ve liked Robert Williams more.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft
« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2018, 09:06:53 PM »
Not necessarily bad ... just not particularly good. Deng, even in his best years, amounted to no more than a third option on a contender. He was never a lead/go-to guy. IMO, iwhen you're picking this high you need to aim for guys with that kind of potential. Instead, the Bulls played it safe.

So who did you want?  Porter Jr?  Anyone else?

 

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