MU @ IU - Gavitt Games

[DegenerateDish]

Per Rothstein

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

A little late, don't ya think?

[GGGG]

A little late, don't ya think?

I don’t think either MU or Crean wanted the match up. Now it makes sense.

[DegenerateDish]

IU won’t be great, but Langford will make them interesting.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Sweet

[real chili 83]

I’d rather play a team 4 hours north of there

[MuMark]

IU won’t be great, but Langford will make them interesting.

Pretty good computer model thinks they are going to be good

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

[wadesworld]

IU should be very good next year. I would think they will be favored going into that game.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Michigan State, once again, not part of the games.  That's a shame.  It's also bad that Rutgers/Penn State/Nebraska all get scheduled in the same year.  Thankfully, DePaul got one of them, but still...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

At IU I would guess that we would be a slight underdog. 3 or 4 points. Should be a good game. This early in the season we might be able to catch them as they will have a lot of new players learning to play with each other. Not sure who steps up to be their PG either.

This is also assuming that Juwan Morgan doesn't go pro. I believe he is still testing the waters. If he goes, I don't see them as a tournament team next season.

[brewcity77]

Michigan State, once again, not part of the games.  That's a shame.

Doesn't that mean they have to be in it every year for the next 4?

[DegenerateDish]

Pretty good computer model thinks they are going to be good

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

I think they’ll be alright, not great as I said. If Langford can acclimate early, they’ll be interesting then as I mentioned.

[DegenerateDish]

Pretty good computer model thinks they are going to be good

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

Also, with all due respect, that computer’s model for next year is laughable.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Pretty good matchup work by the Gavitt games this year. Only two games where I think one side is significantly favored (Michigan at Nova and Hall at Nebraska), I'd expect the home teams to win pretty easily. All the other games seem like toss ups on paper.

[Lennys Tap]

At IU I would guess that we would be a slight underdog. 3 or 4 points. Should be a good game. This early in the season we might be able to catch them as they will have a lot of new players learning to play with each other. Not sure who steps up to be their PG either.

This is also assuming that Juwan Morgan doesn't go pro. I believe he is still testing the waters. If he goes, I don't see them as a tournament team next season.

Wait. We're lucky to be catching them early before they have learned to play together. Yet we'll be a 3 or 4 point dog (so a pick 'em on a neutral court).

So you're saying we'll be IU's equal to begin the season but later (when they've had time to jell) they'll be the better team.

But if one of their players leaves early they won't even make the tournament.

I confess to being confused.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Wait. We're lucky to be catching them early before they have learned to play together. Yet we'll be a 3 or 4 point dog (so a pick 'em on a neutral court).

So you're saying we'll be IU's equal to begin the season but later (when they've had time to jell) they'll be the better team.

But if one of their players leaves early they won't even make the tournament.

I confess to being confused.

I'll give you some numbers to help explain.

Marquette looks like the 20th to 25th best team in the country to me.

Indiana looks like the 30th to 35th best team in the country to me.

I see us as the better team... But we'll be playing in their house. As a result,  I would expect them to be favored by 3 to 4 points.

Juwan Morgan is Indianas best player.  He is currently testing the NBA waters. If he returns,  Value add says that he will be the best college basketball player in the country next season. With him,  Indiana is a top 35 team IMHO. Without him,  Indiana is maybe top 60 IMHO...which would leave them out of the tournament.

[Galway Eagle]

I'll give you some numbers to help explain.

Marquette looks like the 20th to 25th best team in the country to me.

Indiana looks like the 30th to 35th best team in the country to me.

I see us as the better team... But we'll be playing in their house. As a result,  I would expect them to be favored by 3 to 4 points.

Juwan Morgan is Indianas best player.  He is currently testing the NBA waters. If he returns,  Value add says that he will be the best college basketball player in the country next season. With him,  Indiana is a top 35 team IMHO. Without him,  Indiana is maybe top 60 IMHO...which would leave them out of the tournament.

Is Langford factored into where you have them if Morgan returns?

[Pakuni]

Pretty good computer model thinks they are going to be good

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

"Pretty good" computer model thinks Wisconsin and Seton Hall are top 25 teams next year.

[MU82]

Another win for the Warriors!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Is Langford factored into where you have them if Morgan returns?

Yep. If Morgan returns, Indiana will have the two best players on the floor in Morgan and Langford. But I'm not as impressed with the rest of their team. Could be wrong of course!

[GGGG]

Doesn't that mean they have to be in it every year for the next 4?

Unless they have said they just don't want to participate given they usually load up on their non-conference schedule anyway.

[mu03eng]

Unless they have said they just don't want to participate given they usually load up on their non-conference schedule anyway.

Contractually they have to....not sure how they can avoid it.

[mu03eng]

Really like the IU game because I think we beat them in non-conference but they will be really good by the end of the season and a much harder beat which will help us with top 4 seeding come March 

[Silkk the Shaka]

Really like the IU game because I think we beat them in non-conference but they will be really good by the end of the season and a much harder beat which will help us with top 4 seeding come March 

Agreed, plus the Big10 is down this year so they should rack up wins against mediocre competition

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Agreed, plus the Big10 is down this year so they should rack up wins against mediocre competition

Think you might have last year confused with next year.

Big 10 should be very deep next season. No truly elite teams at the top, but very good from top to bottom. I see the B1G getting 9 teams into the tournament next season, with teams 10, 11, and 12 still being pretty good. Even Rutgers look like they could finish inside the top 100....barely.