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Jockey

I hate to give this gasbag any airtime, but  Jerry Jones said the new emphasis on roughing the passer that bars a defender from landing with his full body weight on the quarterback has altered the game "as much as any one [rule] I have seen make a change from our past."

Jockey

To confuse things just a bit more - NFL Network's Judy Battista reports several members of the Competition Committee are "uncomfortable with the roughing the passer calls" early in the season.

Lighthouse 84

#577
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 24, 2018, 07:26:10 PM
The plus side for the NFL is that no one is talking about Catch rules.

In the mind of the NFL, that's a win.
Reminds me of the Gilbert Gottfried video of no one talking about concussions because of kneeling. Win- win, hey?
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mu03eng

Gruden was the worst.

I dig Booger's set-up but yeah that team is just not very good yet from what I've seen....but I'm also generally not watching nearly as much MNF as I use to so small sample size.
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Jockey

The Minnesota Vikings informed Everson Griffen and his agent last week that the star defensive end would not be allowed back with the team until he underwent a mental health evaluation, according to a police incident report obtained by ESPN's Courtney Cronin.


I would make a joke about what being a ViQueen does to your psyche, but we have too many tender souls here who would think I was making a serious social commentary about mental illness in general.

GGGG

Probably should drop the "ViQueen" reference while you are at it.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Obviously a lot of season left by hasn't been a great start for the Vikings.

Don't know a whole lot about the Vikings team makeup so I'm just kinda spitballing, but could the loss of someone like Brian Robison throw the locker room off that much? Remember seeing that him and Griffen.

MU82

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 25, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
Obviously a lot of season left by hasn't been a great start for the Vikings.

Don't know a whole lot about the Vikings team makeup so I'm just kinda spitballing, but could the loss of someone like Brian Robison throw the locker room off that much? Remember seeing that him and Griffen.

Well, losing by 21 at home to the worst team in the NFL will drive some crazy!
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GGGG

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 25, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
Obviously a lot of season left by hasn't been a great start for the Vikings.

Don't know a whole lot about the Vikings team makeup so I'm just kinda spitballing, but could the loss of someone like Brian Robison throw the locker room off that much? Remember seeing that him and Griffen.



Yeah it looks a little more serious than that.  And frankly it makes me wonder how much the team, and especially the defense was distracted last week.

https://deadspin.com/police-report-vikings-everson-griffen-jumped-out-of-an-1829304717

Jay Bee

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Quote from: Jockey on September 25, 2018, 02:57:07 PM
I would make a joke about what being a ViQueen does to your psyche

Careful, the mods might get bombarded with tears and crying over this type of evil hate speech, brandi.

#TheRighteousHypocrites

I kinda doubt Everson will be back this year. Very unfortunate - hope he can get things right mentally. Seemingly a great, but yikes. The Hotel where he went off is across the street from my place - super nice; can't imagine that playing out there.
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: Jockey on September 25, 2018, 02:57:07 PM
The Minnesota Vikings informed Everson Griffen and his agent last week that the star defensive end would not be allowed back with the team until he underwent a mental health evaluation, according to a police incident report obtained by ESPN's Courtney Cronin.


I would make a joke about what being a ViQueen does to your psyche, but we have too many tender souls here who would think I was making a serious social commentary about mental illness in general.

  "Tender souls"??   'Nuff said ::)
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MU82

QBs might actually save the NFL from itself because more and more of them are saying that the ridiculous roughing-the-passer rules are hurting football.

The latest is Derek Carr:

"I wish the guy would have just landed on me instead of tearing his ACL," Carr said Wednesday, via Michael Gelhken of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "For him to tear his ACL, nobody wants that. I don't want that."

He was talking about Dolphins DE Williams Hayes, who was fully aware of the league's emphasis on the rule when he sacked Carr in the second quarter. Hayes appeared to kick out his right leg to prevent landing on Carr, but the motion resulted in Hayes tearing an ACL.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000966859/article/carr-wishes-hayes-landed-on-him-instead-of-tearing-acl

Several connected NFL reporters say league honchos are listening and a change in the way the rule is enforced could come soon.

Not soon enough for Clay Matthews and the Packers, but here's hoping.

I know I could be swayed by "recency bias," but this seems like one of the biggest rules-related travesties in league history. Worse than the catch/no-catch deal, IMHO, because this goes to the very essence of football: See football, tackle guy with football.

It's not supposed to be: See football, make perfect fundamental tackle on guy with football, get penalized 15 yards.
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MU82

Very very proud of my Panthers today for signing Eric Reid, an All-Pro safety and patriotic American who had been blackballed by the NFL for having been an anthem-kneeler.

Our new owner, David Tepper, had said that he encouraged his players to be active in the community and to speak out against injustice, and he backed it up today.

The Panthers have injury problems in their defensive backfield, particularly at safety, and Reid was by far the best player available. They didn't let silliness and ignorance prevent them from improving their chances to make the playoffs and, ultimately, win the Super Bowl.

"Eric has been a starting safety in the NFL and has played at a high level throughout his career," general manager Marty Hurney said. "After we put (safety) Da'Norris Searcy on injured reserve, Ron (Rivera) and I discussed our options, and Eric was at the top of our list. He is a physical safety with good ball skills and play-making ability."

Bravo!

Putting a little bit of my money where my mouth is, I have bought tickets for my wife and I to attend another game this season.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GGGG



Jockey


MU82

Quote from: Jockey on September 27, 2018, 10:48:13 PM
Impressed with the Queens 'D'

Well, at least the Rams are good.

Compared to losing at home by 8,000 points to the worst team in the NFL, losing at the Rams by a TD is practically a win.

Skol!
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GGGG

Quote from: MU82 on September 27, 2018, 12:10:19 PM
Very very proud of my Panthers today for signing Eric Reid, an All-Pro safety and patriotic American who had been blackballed by the NFL for having been an anthem-kneeler.

Our new owner, David Tepper, had said that he encouraged his players to be active in the community and to speak out against injustice, and he backed it up today.

The Panthers have injury problems in their defensive backfield, particularly at safety, and Reid was by far the best player available. They didn't let silliness and ignorance prevent them from improving their chances to make the playoffs and, ultimately, win the Super Bowl.

"Eric has been a starting safety in the NFL and has played at a high level throughout his career," general manager Marty Hurney said. "After we put (safety) Da'Norris Searcy on injured reserve, Ron (Rivera) and I discussed our options, and Eric was at the top of our list. He is a physical safety with good ball skills and play-making ability."

Bravo!

Putting a little bit of my money where my mouth is, I have bought tickets for my wife and I to attend another game this season.


I think the whole anthem protest thing has pretty much blown over.  The amount of outrage over Kaep and Nike was pretty brief and pretty tame.

mu03eng

Quote from: MU82 on September 27, 2018, 12:10:19 PM
Very very proud of my Panthers today for signing Eric Reid, an All-Pro safety and patriotic American who had been blackballed by the NFL for having been an anthem-kneeler.

Our new owner, David Tepper, had said that he encouraged his players to be active in the community and to speak out against injustice, and he backed it up today.

The Panthers have injury problems in their defensive backfield, particularly at safety, and Reid was by far the best player available. They didn't let silliness and ignorance prevent them from improving their chances to make the playoffs and, ultimately, win the Super Bowl.

"Eric has been a starting safety in the NFL and has played at a high level throughout his career," general manager Marty Hurney said. "After we put (safety) Da'Norris Searcy on injured reserve, Ron (Rivera) and I discussed our options, and Eric was at the top of our list. He is a physical safety with good ball skills and play-making ability."

Bravo!

Putting a little bit of my money where my mouth is, I have bought tickets for my wife and I to attend another game this season.

Curious to see where this puts the collusion lawsuit that Reid is part of. Don't think the NFL can point at him finally getting a contract as proof there wasn't collusion prior but what do I know, I don't even stay at Holiday Inn Expresses enough to even pretend to be a legal scholar let alone be one.
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MU82

Quote from: mu03eng on September 28, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Curious to see where this puts the collusion lawsuit that Reid is part of. Don't think the NFL can point at him finally getting a contract as proof there wasn't collusion prior but what do I know, I don't even stay at Holiday Inn Expresses enough to even pretend to be a legal scholar let alone be one.

Was mostly glossed over in the couple articles I read. They said the collusion case was ongoing but didn't know how this would impact it.

Quote from: #bansultan on September 28, 2018, 11:10:40 AM

I think the whole anthem protest thing has pretty much blown over.  The amount of outrage over Kaep and Nike was pretty brief and pretty tame.

Agreed. Nike actually has increased sales and its stock price hit an all-time high.

We'll see if the world's most famous rejected NFL owner will be able to resist taking a shot at some athletes whose color he doesn't like at some point this season. He's a little busy these days.
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#596
Quote from: MU82 on September 28, 2018, 12:37:34 PM
Was mostly glossed over in the couple articles I read. They said the collusion case was ongoing but didn't know how this would impact it.



We'll see if the world's most famous rejected NFL owner will be able to resist taking a shot at some athletes whose color he doesn't like at some point this season. He's a little busy these days.

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Lennys Tap

#598
Quote from: MU82 on September 28, 2018, 12:37:34 PM

We'll see if the world's most famous rejected NFL owner will be able to resist taking a shot at some athletes whose color he doesn't like at some point this season. He's a little busy these days.

Another relapse, eh Mike? Addiction's no joke - take comfort that you're in our thoughts and prayers!

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 28, 2018, 10:25:58 PM
Another relapse, eh Mike? Addiction's no joke - take comfort that your in our thoughts and prayers!

No habla prayers. Thanks for the thoughts, though ... can always use some of those.
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