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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Benny B
What about a robot that's completely autonomous (i.e. just sits in the corner and watches)?

They call that model "The Dukiet", hey?

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2018, 09:02:15 PM
The major concern I have is not with people starving or standards of living shrinking. EVERYTHING (food, housing, travel, medical care, etc.,) will be cheaper and more accessible. Just as there is much more money available to aid the poor or those "left behind" today than there was 50 or 100 years ago, there will be that much more available in the future. I worry instead that too many will feel useless or left out even if their basic needs are provided - a kind of dispiriting of America. Right now we have too many "working poor" here. Will much greater numbers of non working lower middle or middle class be an improvement? I think so, but I'm not so sure.
Right, I agree with you here Lenny.

And god help me, I even agree with Heisy on this point. 
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 15, 2018, 08:02:51 AM
Companion robots will change the world more than autodrivers.   They won't just be a pervert's toy, they will be pervasive, with men and women giving up the aggravation of pursuit and relationship maintenance with real humans, opting for the utterly gorgeous and wildly accommodating robot companion.
Is there, like, an advance sign up sheet for this?  Asking for a friend.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Tugg Speedman


mu03eng

Quote from: RJax55 on February 14, 2018, 09:04:44 PM
No way. People like to be in control. Hence, why so many fear flying when it's a far, far safer mode of transit.

Dont get me wrong, automation is coming. But, human driving being illegal, not happening anytime soon.

And, like many things in this country, this issue will see a huge urban vs. rural split. As big cities embrace the efficiency that automation will provide.

Human driving will become illegal or a non-option in the future, just doubtful it's in 20 years. Once driveless cars get to scale where they are the majority car on the road the human drivers become an issue in the system as they are unpredictable. Remove the human element and there are no traffic jams or gawker blocks, etc. Whole system becomes more efficient, fews cars are required, fewer deaths and lawsuits, repair requirements go down, etc etc etc etc.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

RJax55

Quote from: mu03eng on February 15, 2018, 04:06:05 PM
Human driving will become illegal or a non-option in the future, just doubtful it's in 20 years. Once driveless cars get to scale where they are the majority car on the road the human drivers become an issue in the system as they are unpredictable. Remove the human element and there are no traffic jams or gawker blocks, etc. Whole system becomes more efficient, fews cars are required, fewer deaths and lawsuits, repair requirements go down, etc etc etc etc.

I agree with you. My doubt was on this happening in 20 years. I don't think that's a realistic timeframe. In my mind, you're going to need a couple of generations that grow up with and assimilate into driver-less vehicles, prior to human driving no longer being an option (either by law, market forces or both).

tower912

Well, if robot sex companions become the norm, look for fewer children to be born in developed countries.   Which will ease overpopulation.    Do you then encourage immigration to maintain the population?  If you overindulge with the robot companion and you have a heart attack, will the manufacturer be liable?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dr. Blackheart


warriorchick

There is a bar/restaurant near my house where a guy brings his Real Doll in on a regular basis.  If you have seen "Lars and the Real Girl" you will know what I am talking about.  I don't know whether to mock this guy or feel sorry for him.
Have some patience, FFS.

WarriorDad

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 13, 2018, 08:46:39 PM
Robots  will "Destroy" society  until we put a universal income.

UBI fascinates me.  How is it that it will be paid for if no one works in the future? Where do the funds come from?
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

drewm88

Quote from: warriorchick on February 16, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
There is a bar/restaurant near my house where a guy brings his Real Doll in on a regular basis.  If you have seen "Lars and the Real Girl" you will know what I am talking about.  I don't know whether to mock this guy or feel sorry for him.

What do you expect when you don't let Glow hang out with her at home?

warriorchick

Quote from: drewm88 on February 16, 2018, 10:45:35 AM
What do you expect when you don't let Glow hang out with her at home?

Meh, she's a brunette.  Not his type.
Have some patience, FFS.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: WarriorDad on February 16, 2018, 10:31:52 AM
UBI fascinates me.  How is it that it will be paid for if no one works in the future? Where do the funds come from?

When robots are able to mass produce everything we need and only luxury items are sought after it won't matter to much.

Jockey

Quote from: warriorchick on February 16, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
There is a bar/restaurant near my house where a guy brings his Real Doll in on a regular basis.  If you have seen "Lars and the Real Girl" you will know what I am talking about.  I don't know whether to mock this guy or feel sorry for him.

That's an easy one. Sympathy is in order.

WarriorDad

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 16, 2018, 11:09:54 AM
When robots are able to mass produce everything we need and only luxury items are sought after it won't matter to much.

If I understand correctly, the robots will be doing everything while we all just sit around and do nothing?  What becomes our sense of purpose?  Work is a sense of purpose.  That sounds like population explosion potentially as people get it on, need for housing, transportation, and the rest.  One of the things that kept my wife limited on the number of kids was money, work, being tired from work.   Now we're saying money is no object, don't have to work, we're going to have all this time on our hands.

Thankfully I will be dead by the time this utopian existence is thrust upon us.  Feels like a very bad societal ending.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Benny B

Quote from: Jockey on February 16, 2018, 12:24:53 PM
That's an easy one. Sympathy is in order.

If it's simply a doll, yes.  But if it has any sort of animatronic features (beyond that of a motor that simply spins a tiny weight around), you mercilessly mock him as you would any nerd like Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg, etc. 

Then you ask if she has a sister.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

warriorchick

Quote from: Benny B on February 16, 2018, 01:51:22 PM
If it's simply a doll, yes.  But if it has any sort of animatronic features (beyond that of a motor that simply spins a tiny weight around), you mercilessly mock him as you would any nerd like Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg, etc. 

Then you ask if she has a sister.

I don't think it has animatronic features, but it does have anatomic features. 

:P
Have some patience, FFS.

mu03eng

"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Benny B

Quote from: warriorchick on February 16, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
I don't think it has animatronic features, but it does have anatomic features. 

:P

I figured as much.  Frankly, some sort of congratulations might be in order.  Relationships - especially the short, short-term ones - with real people are expensive... this guy's found a way to cut out a perpetuity of ordinary expense simply by making a one-time capital investment.  Sure there may be a perceived difference in quality of the finished goods, but beauty is in the eye of beholder on this one, and it's a good bet this guy sees women as more of a commodity anyway, so effective return > actual return.  Not to mention, it's probably a win-win situation for both this guy and any real woman with whom he might otherwise interact.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

warriorchick

Quote from: Benny B on February 16, 2018, 02:21:31 PM
I figured as much.  Frankly, some sort of congratulations might be in order.  Relationships - especially the short, short-term ones - with real people are expensive... this guy's found a way to cut out a perpetuity of ordinary expense simply by making a one-time capital investment.  Sure there may be a perceived difference in quality of the finished goods, but beauty is in the eye of beholder on this one, and it's a good bet this guy sees women as more of a commodity anyway, so effective return > actual return.  Not to mention, it's probably a win-win situation for both this guy and any real woman with whom he might otherwise interact.

I guess she is the perfect woman - attractive, never turns down sexytime, and doesn't talk.
Have some patience, FFS.

tower912

Sadly, there are those who think that way.  Having made it 26 years, I understand the joy and magic is in the shared journey.  But it isn't easy.   And for some, the mindless, non challenging companion bot will be easier than the mystery or the compromise.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: warriorchick on February 16, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
I don't think it has animatronic features, but it does have anatomic features. 

:P

It really comes down to which porn star was used to mold the robot's va-jay-jay, a/ina?

Tugg Speedman


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: WarriorDad on February 16, 2018, 01:15:38 PM
If I understand correctly, the robots will be doing everything while we all just sit around and do nothing? 
No, it leaves time for unlimited Beer Summits at White Lives Matter Ranch in Idaho.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on February 16, 2018, 03:31:47 PM
Sadly, there are those who think that way.  Having made it 26 years, I understand the joy and magic is in the shared journey.  But it isn't easy.   And for some, the mindless, non challenging companion bot will be easier than the mystery or the compromise.

+1000. Life without romance and all its highs, lows and in betweens would be hollow. 44 years later I wouldn't think of trading her for a bot, even a really hot one!

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