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It only gets worse for Bucky
« on: December 11, 2017, 02:35:34 PM »
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 02:40:50 PM »
Boo frickin hoo.

Too bad he didn't play Saturday....then he'd be unable to apply for a medical redshirt.

(Note that I too feel bad for the kid.  My angle is looking at it in a team perspective.)
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2017, 03:17:23 PM »
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 11, 2017, 02:40:50 PM
Too bad he didn't play Saturday....then he'd be unable to apply for a medical redshirt.

I believe he's ineligible for a medical waiver regardless. You must play less than 30% of your team's regular season games. King played in 10 games, and 10/31=32.3%.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 03:18:47 PM »
I NEVER want to see an athlete get hurt.  I sincerely hope Kobe has a full and complete recovery.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 03:27:18 PM »
Quote from: jsglow on December 11, 2017, 03:18:47 PM
I NEVER want to see an athlete get hurt.  I sincerely hope Kobe has a full and complete recovery.
I suspect the vast majority of us agree with your thought.  Hope the best for Kobe.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 03:30:55 PM »
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 11, 2017, 03:27:18 PM
I suspect the vast majority of us agree with your thought.  Hope the best for Kobe.

He wouldn't have gotten hurt if he was conditioned against Marquette-caliber athletes
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 03:32:58 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 11, 2017, 03:17:23 PM
I believe he's ineligible for a medical waiver regardless. You must play less than 30% of your team's regular season games. King played in 10 games, and 10/31=32.3%.

According to the linked article:

"King has averaged 5.2 points and 19.0 minutes in 10 games. Because he played in only 30% of UW's scheduled games (minimum of 32), King is eligible to apply for a medical hardship waiver after the season."
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 03:36:22 PM »
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 11, 2017, 03:32:58 PM
According to the linked article:

"King has averaged 5.2 points and 19.0 minutes in 10 games. Because he played in only 30% of UW's scheduled games (minimum of 32), King is eligible to apply for a medical hardship waiver after the season."

Yeah but 10/32 = 31.25%

And my recollection is that they count 32 because the count the conference tournament as one game.  Or maybe I'm thinking of something else.

Or maybe we just need JB answer this.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 03:42:45 PM »
FWIW the jsonline story says he's eligible for a medical redshirt.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2017, 03:44:03 PM »
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 11, 2017, 03:32:58 PM
According to the linked article:

"King has averaged 5.2 points and 19.0 minutes in 10 games. Because he played in only 30% of UW's scheduled games (minimum of 32), King is eligible to apply for a medical hardship waiver after the season."

The author isn't the brightest bulb on the block...he prints everything Barry's team dishes up to him.  Not sure Math is his strength either.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2017, 03:45:38 PM »
Quote from: jficke13 on December 11, 2017, 03:42:45 PM
FWIW the jsonline story says he's eligible for a medical redshirt.
Others have said that as well.  Just curious as to how that can be given the rules as applied over the years.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2017, 03:50:57 PM »
Among other requirements, to be eligible for a medical redshirt, King's injury must have occurred when he has not participated in more than 30% of Wisconsin's scheduled games.  (NCAA D1 Manual 12.8.4(c)).  The conference tournament counts as one game (12.8.4.3.6.1.1.1), so 32 games are considered as scheduled.  Any computation of the percent limitation that results in a fractional portion of a game shall be rounded to the next whole number (12.8.4.3.6.2).  32 games x 30% = 9.6 games, which is rounded up to 10 games.  As King has only played in 10 games, he has not participated in more than 30% of Wisconsin's games, per the NCAA Manual.   
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2017, 03:58:53 PM »
Quote from: Man Clam Chow on December 11, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
Among other requirements, to be eligible for a medical redshirt, King's injury must have occurred when he has not participated in more than 30% of Wisconsin's scheduled games.  (NCAA D1 Manual 12.8.4(c)).  The conference tournament counts as one game (12.8.4.3.6.1.1.1), so 32 games are considered as scheduled.  Any computation of the percent limitation that results in a fractional portion of a game shall be rounded to the next whole number (12.8.4.3.6.2).  32 games x 30% = 9.6 games, which is rounded up to 10 games.  As King has only played in 10 games, he has not participated in more than 30% of Wisconsin's games, per the NCAA Manual.   


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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2017, 04:12:51 PM »
If this is an ACL.....

Early next season will be in jeopardy also.....

Usually 12 - 15 months......And that is pushing it......

PS.....It will be worse if Happ goes "senior grad transfer"......
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2017, 04:14:59 PM »
Quote from: Man Clam Chow on December 11, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
Among other requirements, to be eligible for a medical redshirt, King's injury must have occurred when he has not participated in more than 30% of Wisconsin's scheduled games.  (NCAA D1 Manual 12.8.4(c)).  The conference tournament counts as one game (12.8.4.3.6.1.1.1), so 32 games are considered as scheduled.  Any computation of the percent limitation that results in a fractional portion of a game shall be rounded to the next whole number (12.8.4.3.6.2).  32 games x 30% = 9.6 games, which is rounded up to 10 games.  As King has only played in 10 games, he has not participated in more than 30% of Wisconsin's games, per the NCAA Manual.

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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2017, 06:31:49 PM »
Wish the young man all the best as he recovers from his injury.  Hopefully he returns in good form after the rehab.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2017, 07:01:54 PM »
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 11, 2017, 02:40:50 PM
Boo frickin hoo.

Too bad he didn't play Saturday....then he'd be unable to apply for a medical redshirt.

(Note that I too feel bad for the kid.  My angle is looking at it in a team perspective.)

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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2017, 07:12:28 PM »
I hate the rodents...but I feel bad for the kid, and wish him well in his recovery.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2017, 09:31:51 PM »
Don't like seeing players get hurt. And don't like seeing Bucky get a decent-quality player for a fifth year.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2017, 09:34:56 PM »
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 11, 2017, 07:12:28 PM
I hate the rodents...but I feel bad for the kid, and wish him well in his recovery.
I agree in wishing the best for Kobe.  And by saying that, it would be in his best interest to transfer to MU immediately following final exams.  The Greg Gard dumpster fire is about to get very hot.  The rodent fan base is not known for its patience or loyalty.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2017, 09:46:59 PM »
Quote from: 94Warrior on December 11, 2017, 09:34:56 PM
I agree in wishing the best for Kobe.  And by saying that, it would be in his best interest to transfer to MU immediately following final exams.  The Greg Gard dumpster fire is about to get very hot.  The rodent fan base is not known for its patience or loyalty.

Not really a good move for the guy.  He no longer fits a need for MU.  I don't see him getting a schollie.  Not homerism, MU is pretty loaded at the wing now.  Now if he played the point....
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2017, 08:40:01 AM »
He played in 11 games, the only way it could count as 10 is if the 2 Hall of Fame games only count as 1.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2017, 09:32:06 AM »
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on December 12, 2017, 08:40:01 AM
He played in 11 games, the only way it could count as 10 is if the 2 Hall of Fame games only count as 1.

King? No, he played in 10. UW-M came in 4-6 and he played in every game.
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2017, 10:52:30 AM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 12, 2017, 09:32:06 AM
King? No, he played in 10. UW-M came in 4-6 and he played in every game.
I'm not sure what your UW-M comment means but from the box scores on UW's web site King played in:
N Iowa
SC State
Yale
Xavier
Baylor
UCLA
UWM
VA
Ohio St
Penn State
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Re: It only gets worse for Bucky
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2017, 10:57:22 AM »
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on December 12, 2017, 10:52:30 AM
I'm not sure what your UW-M comment means but from the box scores on UW's web site King played in:
N Iowa
SC State
Yale
Xavier
Baylor
UCLA
UWM
VA
Ohio St
Penn State
Temple

N Iowa was an exhibition for disaster relief like ours with UWM. I would assume it doesn’t count against his redshirt total.
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