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f/k/a humanlung

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2018, 05:04:40 PM »
Happens on occassion i just dont think a program of our ilk can expect to do that consistantly.  If we did would that not be a testiment to the job Wojo did??

I am not sure what you mean...  As DePaul is currently constructed, we should damn well beat them twice every year.  There is simply no comparison between the talent levels and depth of each team.

If we are unable to do that consistently, then that would definitely be a commentary on Wojo and his running of the program.

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2018, 05:13:11 PM »
I am not sure what you mean...  As DePaul is currently constructed, we should damn well beat them twice every year.  There is simply no comparison between the talent levels and depth of each team.

If we are unable to do that consistently, then that would definitely be a commentary on Wojo and his running of the program.


What are you complaining about?  We did beat them twice this year.   ;)

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2018, 05:14:16 PM »

What are you complaining about?  We did beat them twice this year.   ;)

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2018, 05:16:00 PM »
BTW, do people think that simply beating DePaul would have got them in?

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« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2018, 05:16:07 PM »
I found a source for the full transfer list from last year, and here's what I found:

- Total transfers in 2017: 883, avg of 2.52
- Power 6 transfers: 142, avg of 1.87 per school
- All other transfers: 741, avg of 2.69 per school

If this year is reasonably representative of a typical year, it does seem like power 6 schools lose fewer players to transfer. It's not the 2:1 that I had assumed earlier, but this list is much different than what was mentioned earlier.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2017

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2018, 05:23:31 PM »
I found a source for the full transfer list from last year, and here's what I found:

- Total transfers in 2017: 883, avg of 2.52
- Power 6 transfers: 142, avg of 1.87 per school
- All other transfers: 741, avg of 2.69 per school

If this year is reasonably representative of a typical year, it does seem like power 6 schools lose fewer players to transfer. It's not the 2:1 that I had assumed earlier, but this list is much different than what was mentioned earlier.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2017


So the average for a P6 school is 7.5 every four years. 

Wojo has been here four years almost to the date.  Transfers:  Burton, Dawson, Taylor, Cohen, Carter, Wilson, Cheatham.  So that's 7.

But then there is the curious case of Gabe Levin.  And I don't know how you want to classify Wally.

And that assumes no transfers at the end of this year.  So Wojo's rosters have been a little more unstable than the P6 average.  That sounds about right to me.

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2018, 05:30:17 PM »
Transfers happen and that is life. As long as next guy is better, transfer away!!

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2018, 05:30:37 PM »
I am not sure what you mean...  As DePaul is currently constructed, we should damn well beat them twice every year.  There is simply no comparison between the talent levels and depth of each team.

If we are unable to do that consistently, then that would definitely be a commentary on Wojo and his running of the program.

My point is beat depaul or not we r fringe bubble which is about the best MU can hope for with a roster of this youth.  Had we made the tourney i think it would have actually been a testimony to wojo n his staffs coaching
This year n anyother year mu is not going to challenge for conference titles or ncaas or second weekend of ncaas with 80% freshman n sophomores we r not arizona, duke ir kentucky
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Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2018, 08:10:40 PM »

So the average for a P6 school is 7.5 every four years. 

Wojo has been here four years almost to the date.  Transfers:  Burton, Dawson, Taylor, Cohen, Carter, Wilson, Cheatham.  So that's 7.

But then there is the curious case of Gabe Levin.  And I don't know how you want to classify Wally.

And that assumes no transfers at the end of this year.  So Wojo's rosters have been a little more unstable than the P6 average.  That sounds about right to me.
Think is it differently as it is a more telling story as to how many players were recruit by a coach but didn’t finish.
I don’t think that it is fair to say Wojo is above the average as many of those were Buzz’s guys who had one if not both feet out before Wojo started.

Burton was depressed and needed a change of scenery. I don’t think Buzz keeps him.
Dawson never saw the floor and knew he wasn’t going to. Buzz doesn’t keep him
Taylor only stayed that extra because of Wojo.
Cohen reopened his recruitment when Buzz left. Stayed but then left.
Wilson. Buzz recruit who saw a chance to play as a grad transfer. He stayed at MU for 4 years.
A coach leaving is naturally going to increase transfers especially for those already looking.

That leaves really 4 of Wojo’s guys. I think we all agree Wally was a smart move. I think Gabe was on campus for <3 months so mistake but in June our team needed bodies. 

Carter and Cheatum are on Wojo. With that lens, he has been fairly stable.

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Re: Wojo to this point....
« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2018, 05:58:10 PM »
Beware 8-post guy.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to remind everyone that I am a 3,008 (mow 3,009) post guy who lost all his login info.

Further, to also thank you for proving that the number of posts and the quality of content is in no way correlated.

 

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