Wojo's seat

[genious expert]

I realize all of us want want Marquette to be a top 25 program. Trust me I want the same thing. But when I'm at the game today and our best lineup has 3 sophomores and 2 freshman, why are we expecting to beat a team as talented and experienced as providence? To be honest I was excited for this team after the first several games even though preseason I expected a down year. Now we are at expectations. Look at the roster and the ages of our best players. Good things are still to come. I know everyone is sick of hearing about next year but it's the truth. We will look back on this year as a growing pains year. We have talent. Just need upperclassmen now. Step off the ledge.

[jonny09]

I realize all of us want want Marquette to be a top 25 program. Trust me I want the same thing. But when I'm at the game today and our best lineup has 3 sophomores and 2 freshman, why are we expecting to beat a team as talented and experienced as providence? To be honest I was excited for this team after the first several games even though preseason I expected a down year. Now we are at expectations. Look at the roster and the ages of our best players. Good things are still to come. I know everyone is sick of hearing about next year but it's the truth. We will look back on this year as a growing pains year. We have talent. Just need upperclassmen now. Step off the ledge.

The same reason Vegas had us favored by 6.   That's why.   We play below our talent level.  Like when we were favored by 3 vs. Butler and lost by 20.   How bout that for a reason. 

[genious expert]

The same reason Vegas had us favored by 6.   That's why.   We play below our talent level.  Like when we were favored by 3 vs. Butler and lost by 20.   How bout that for a reason.

So you think we have more talent than Butler and Providence? Do you watch the games or just check box scores?

[jonny09]

So you think we have more talent than Butler and Providence? Do you watch the games or just check box scores?

Beat providence away and then lost to them at home.  Then got blown off the fucking court by Butler.   Both at home.  Gave up a career high to a straight up bum vs. Butler.    Don't become a bookie........You'll go bankrupt.

[Avenue Commons]

Wojo's seat is as Ice Cold as a Miller High Life left outside on a January night in Milwaukee.

Tough three game stretch. We came up short. Call next game. That job won't be decided over three games.

[genious expert]

Beat providence away and then lost to them at home.  Then got blown off the unnatural carnal knowledgeing court by Butler.   Both at home.  Gave up a career high to a straight up bum vs. Butler.    Don't become a bookie........You'll go bankrupt.

Not a bookie. Also not sure what any of that has to do with what i said. Condolences on losing money or whatever you're upset about

[jonny09]

Not a bookie. Also not sure what any of that has to do with what i said. Condolences on losing money or whatever you're upset about

I know you're not a bookie.  You're a moron. 

[wadesworld]

I know you're not a bookie.  You're a moron.

Can always count on jonny boy being active after a loss.

[GGGG]

Can always count on jonny boy being active after a loss.

And if by "active," you mean "posting dumb sh*t" you are correct.

[wadesworld]

And if by "active," you mean "posting dumb sh*t" you are correct.

That is accurate.

[jonny09]

That is accurate.

I love it.  Two bums who think they know basketball.  Keep it coming. 

[wadesworld]

I love it.  Two bums who think they know basketball.  Keep it coming.

Shocked that you weren't around after the Seton Hall game. I might be a bum and I might know nothing about basketball, but I do know we can count on you to be blasting away on the keyboard when MU goes on a losing streak but absolutely MIA when MU plays well. And that is the kind of man that has some balls, folks.

[jonny09]

Shocked that you weren't around after the Seton Hall game. I might be a bum and I might know nothing about basketball, but I do know we can count on you to be blasting away on the keyboard when MU goes on a losing streak but absolutely MIA when MU plays well. And that is the kind of man that has some balls, folks.

Yeeeees!!!!   Great stuff...........More please

[WarriorDad]

Beat providence away and then lost to them at home.  Then got blown off the unnatural carnal knowledgeing court by Butler.   Both at home.  Gave up a career high to a straight up bum vs. Butler.    Don't become a bookie........You'll go bankrupt.

We beat Providence on the road without their best player and it took overtime for us to do it, plus a out of body experience by Markus.

[WhiteTrash]

Well, back to Wojo's seat; in addition to it apparently being ice cold due to Marquette's indifference to having a successful men's basketball program, the bright side is we don't have to worry about Wojo leaving.  I think we can all agree that no other program in the country would want our coach (maybe/hopefully in the future). Stress and rumor free off season ahead! 

[GGGG]

Well, back to Wojo's seat; in addition to it apparently being ice cold due to Marquette's indifference to having a successful men's basketball program,m

Laughable.

[brewcity77]

I don't think Wojo is in any danger this year. Even if we miss the NCAAs, which I still think is about a 50/50 proposition (looking at that 0-21 combined record for SJU/GT/DPU against other BE teams) the years Wojo has always been building toward were the next two. Now if we are a bubble team next year, he will be on the precipice. Miss the tourney in 2018 and 2019 and I think he could be replaced.

[avid1010]

I don't think Wojo is in any danger this year. Even if we miss the NCAAs, which I still think is about a 50/50 proposition (looking at that 0-21 combined record for SJU/GT/DPU against other BE teams) the years Wojo has always been building toward were the next two. Now if we are a bubble team next year, he will be on the precipice. Miss the tourney in 2018 and 2019 and I think he could be replaced.

The problem with this is that the cabinet is likely relatively empty at that point as we would assume players havent developed and incoming recruits would leave.  If they don't make the NCAA next year he should be gone.  That said...I don't think that will be an issue.

[WhiteTrash]

Laughable.

I don't actually believe that statement, just a poke at all the insane "wins no matta" and the like posts on this board.

[brewcity77]

The problem with this is that the cabinet is likely relatively empty at that point as we would assume players havent developed and incoming recruits would leave.  If they don't make the NCAA next year he should be gone.  That said...I don't think that will be an issue.

From a roster perspective, the cabinet will always be empty for a new hire, especially if they approve immediate eligibility for all transfers. At any point going forward, we should assume that any coach we hire will require a complete and total rebuild. So anyone thinking "I want to replace Wojo with X", make damn sure you are content with the idea of Coach X building this thing from the ground up, Tom Crean at Indiana style.

That's part of the reason for my list in the "Making a Trade" thread. I'm confident Dan Hurley could succeed at this level. McDevitt has proven he can keep elevating win totals despite losing players. Wardle has shown he can do a rebuild twice. If you are counting on the new coach winning with what's here, that's simply a losing gambit, especially in the long term.

As much as Wojo was left with an empty roster (and anyone arguing otherwise is lying) that is going to be the norm for anyone now.

[tower912]

The only place that Wojo's seat is hot is on internet forums.    And so many of the young guys and incoming recruits chose MU BECAUSE of Wojo that if he were fired,  the next coach's rebuild would be more daunting than Wojo's. 

[willie warrior]

The problem with this is that the cabinet is likely relatively empty at that point as we would assume players havent developed and incoming recruits would leave.  If they don't make the NCAA next year he should be gone.  That said...I don't think that will be an issue.

Yup...always next year.

[WarriorDad]

Yup...always next year.

Last year we made the tournament, yes?

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I believe that Wojo's seat remains frigid. Not on the Board of course, but where it matters.

There has always been a desire on this board to get a coach who is willing to stay here long term. Not jump at the first well paying Power 5 job that opens up. That means if the coach has a great year, the administration and the fan base want the coach to show MU some loyalty and stick around. The other side of that is when the coach has a down year, the expectation of the coach is the fan base and administration will show some loyalty and not run him out of town.

Wojo isn't at the point where he can be considered our "long term" coach but I think the consensus is we would like to have SOMEONE fill that role sometime. I don't think we can be calling for his head or request that the heat be turned up on him after a bad loss, bad season, or bad post-game presser in his tenure...yet. As others smarter than me have persistently noted, we need to see the results from next season and 2019-2020. If next season unfolds in a less than acceptable manner, turn the burner up. If that persists into the following season, then it's time to get serious about moving on. (And yes, there's a sixth year in there to make up for the Henry Ellenson wasted season and, to a lesser extent, surprise transfers.)

Just my 2 cents worth.

[jesmu84]

This board would have run a number of high caliber coaches out of town. It's quite amusing.

No, I am not saying wojo is defined as high caliber.

But many coaches weren't in their first few years.