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Jockey

So have MLB players been kneeling for the anthem?  :-\

Huge attendance drop this year.

🏀

Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2018, 01:36:07 PM
So have MLB players been kneeling for the anthem?  :-\

Huge attendance drop this year.

I'm guessing weather has to be a major factor.

LAZER

Quote from: PTM + Chartouny = Us on June 15, 2018, 02:16:58 PM
I'm guessing weather has to be a major factor.
10 teams already 10+ games back in the division can't help either.

MerrittsMustache


Bad weather + Blatant tanking = Poor attendance

Jockey

Quote from: PTM + Chartouny = Us on June 15, 2018, 02:16:58 PM
I'm guessing weather has to be a major factor.

That was my 1st guess, but Toronto and Miami are way down and weather is no factor for them.

In reality, attendance is down for the same reason it is down in the NFL. The way we digest sports is changing.

As of now, it seems like only the NBA is adjusting.

buckchuckler

Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2018, 05:54:06 PM
That was my 1st guess, but Toronto and Miami are way down and weather is no factor for them.

In reality, attendance is down for the same reason it is down in the NFL. The way we digest sports is changing.

As of now, it seems like only the NBA is adjusting.

Those are both terrible teams, with fanbases renowned to be fickle.

jsglow

Quote from: SaveOD238 on June 14, 2018, 12:19:22 PM
They might come down to earth a little, but I really highly doubt that a team that is 14 over .500 over the first 68 games will play 2 under .500 the last 94.  Fangraphs thinks that the Cardinals, Angels, D-Backs, As, Rockies, Giants, Pirates, Twins, Blue Jays, and Mets all will have better W% than the Brewers for the rest of the season.  Something is wrong with their formula that underestimates what the Crew has and will do.

FiveThirtyEight says 92-70 (and still three behind the Cubs), which seems far more reasonable. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-mlb-predictions/

I just took a look at Fangraphs this morning for fun.  As of today, their model has the Crew playing 3 games below .500 the rest of the way.  Moreover, fully 2/3 of the National League teams are expected to outperform them the rest of the way.  Wow, why even go to the ballpark?


Jockey

Quote from: jsglow on June 16, 2018, 07:09:12 AM
I just took a look at Fangraphs this morning for fun.  As of today, their model has the Crew playing 3 games below .500 the rest of the way.  Moreover, fully 2/3 of the National League teams are expected to outperform them the rest of the way.  Wow, why even go to the ballpark?

I would guess that is based on expected regression in 1-run games.

They don't take into account that their is a reason they have won so many close games - the best bullpen in the league.

jsglow

Quote from: Jockey on June 16, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
I would guess that is based on expected regression in 1-run games.

They don't take into account that their is a reason they have won so many close games - the best bullpen in the league.

It just seems like a crappy model to me.

TSmith34, Inc.

Let us not jinx things.  I recall the year they were up 10 games on the division before the AS break.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

jsglow

Absolutely.  But to predict that a .600 club is going to play below .500 (meaning that's their median prediction) just seems crazy.  The only team the Crew seemingly loses to is Chicago! (Cubs AND Sox)  :o

Jockey

Quote from: jsglow on June 16, 2018, 04:18:45 PM
It just seems like a crappy model to me.

That's why I argue against Auburn's numbers sometimes. They can tell us a lot, but they tell us more after the fact than being predictive.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: jsglow on June 16, 2018, 04:18:45 PM
It just seems like a crappy model to me.

The models work on a macro-level but can break down on a micro-level.

The model is waiting for Junior Guerra to stop pitching so well, Jesus Aguilar to stop raking, the Brewers record in one run games to regress towards .500, etc.

It's predicting what should happen, not what will happen.  It uses the past to try to predict the future, but the future is uncertain.


TallTitan34

Quote from: Jockey on June 16, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
They don't take into account that their is a reason they have won so many close games - the best bullpen in the league.

Third best.  Behind the Cubs.  :P

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/split/128/order/false

MerrittsMustache

The Cubs haven't scored a run since Saturday and moved into 1st place.

You gotta love baseball!

Jockey

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 19, 2018, 10:18:45 AM
The Cubs haven't scored a run since Saturday and moved into 1st place.

You gotta love baseball!

Will this become a trend? Will other clubs try to emulate the Cubbies "success"?

TallTitan34

That's been their problem all season.  The first two games against the Cardinals, they combine for 19 runs then get shut out in the third game.  They score 7 on the Brewers in the first game, then get shut out the next two.

I saw they are averaging over 7 runs a game in their wins and under 2 in their losses.  Either everyone is hot or everyone is cold any given day.

MerrittsMustache

Another reason to love baseball.

Juan Soto officially hit his 6th career MLB HR 5 days before his MLB debut.

buckchuckler

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 19, 2018, 11:16:04 AM
Another reason to love baseball.

Juan Soto officially hit his 6th career MLB HR 5 days before his MLB debut.
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Soto has been quite outstanding.  Not bad for a 19 year old.

MerrittsMustache

Brewers lose 3 straight...move back into 1st place.

Hey, Joe! Where was Morrow?

TallTitan34

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 19, 2018, 03:58:00 PM
Brewers lose 3 straight...move back into 1st place.

Hey, Joe! Where was Morrow?

Back tightness. But definitely better options than Justin Wilson.

Jockey

So, what do the Brewers do with Peralta?

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 19, 2018, 10:18:45 AM
The Cubs haven't scored a run since Saturday and moved into 1st place.

You gotta love baseball!

PEDs

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 19, 2018, 08:13:24 PM
Back tightness. But definitely better options than Justin Wilson.

Such as?

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