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GooooMarquette

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on November 25, 2017, 09:09:50 PM
The argument would be ND lost to eventual #1 Georgia and to eventual #2 Miami.  They have the best "quality losses" of all the two-loss teams.  So they should be the first two-loss team in.

ND's SoS is #2

SoS is great..unless you have a head to head beatdown.

naginiF

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on November 25, 2017, 09:36:20 PM
Isn't this the same chance 538 gave Trump of winning?
America's brain fart has nothing to do with this


naginiF

Should i keep refreshing to see if Heisy has anything else to say about ND football?

Tugg Speedman

#104
Quote from: Mutaman on November 25, 2017, 10:13:13 PM
Not accurate.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-yes-donald-trump-has-a-path-to-victory/

Final Election Update: There's A Wide Range Of Outcomes, And Most Of Them Come Up Clinton
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/final-election-update-theres-a-wide-range-of-outcomes-and-most-of-them-come-up-clinton/



Trump to win:

WI - 16.5%
MI - 21.1%
PA - 23%

He also gave the Democrats a 51% chance of winning the Senate.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: naginiF on November 25, 2017, 10:28:58 PM
Should i keep refreshing to see if Heisy has anything else to say about ND football?

They lost, the rest is moot

MU82

Wonderful day/night.

My favorite team won again - this time Stanford, thankfully officially putting ND out of America's misery. Posers yet again. Irrelevant yet again. Love it!

Earlier, Saban had the smug wiped off his face by Auburn. Sweet.

And in between all that, the HS hoops team I (assistant) coach beat the No. 1-ranked team in the Charlotte metro area. We fell behind 10, fought our way back into the game and then dominated the second half. So much fun to see hard work rewarded!

If only Bucky had lost it would have been absolutely perfect, but I'll take this.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GooooMarquette

Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2017, 10:32:44 PM

And in between all that, the HS hoops team I (assistant) coach beat the No. 1-ranked team in the Charlotte metro area. We fell behind 10, fought our way back into the game and then dominated the second half. So much fun to see hard work rewarded!


Congrats!

Jockey

#108
Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on November 25, 2017, 10:29:50 PM
Final Election Update: There's A Wide Range Of Outcomes, And Most Of Them Come Up Clinton
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/final-election-update-theres-a-wide-range-of-outcomes-and-most-of-them-come-up-clinton/

..........


Take your love of sex criminals and pedophiles elsewhere.

We don't need your "lil' Chico" impression to destroy another thread.

If you want to talk college football, join in. If not, get the h3ll lost!!

Mutaman

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on November 25, 2017, 10:29:50 PM
Final Election Update: There's A Wide Range Of Outcomes, And Most Of Them Come Up Clinton
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/final-election-update-theres-a-wide-range-of-outcomes-and-most-of-them-come-up-clinton/



Trump to win:

WI - 16.5%
MI - 21.1%
PA - 23%

He also gave the Democrats a 51% chance of winning the Senate.

You're moving the goal posts. Your original post indicated 538 was dead wrong- they wern't.

Moreover from your linked article:

"So what's the source of all the uncertainty? And why does the same model1 that gave Mitt Romney only a 9 percent chance of winning the Electoral College on the eve of the 2012 election put Trump's chances about three times higher — 28 percent — this year? It basically comes down to three things:

    First, Clinton's overall lead over Trump — while her gains over the past day or two have helped — is still within the range where a fairly ordinary polling error could eliminate it.
    Second, the number of undecided and third-party voters is much higher than in recent elections, which contributes to uncertainty.
    Third, Clinton's coalition — which relies increasingly on college-educated whites and Hispanics — is somewhat inefficiently configured for the Electoral College, because these voters are less likely to live in swing states. If the popular vote turns out to be a few percentage points closer than polls project it, Clinton will be an Electoral College underdog."

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2017, 10:32:44 PM
Wonderful day/night.

My favorite team won again - this time Stanford, thankfully officially putting ND out of America's misery. Posers yet again. Irrelevant yet again. Love it!

Earlier, Saban had the smug wiped off his face by Auburn. Sweet.

And in between all that, the HS hoops team I (assistant) coach beat the No. 1-ranked team in the Charlotte metro area. We fell behind 10, fought our way back into the game and then dominated the second half. So much fun to see hard work rewarded!

If only Bucky had lost it would have been absolutely perfect, but I'll take this.

There was no way for a perfect day. Four teams I hate - tOSU. Michigan, Alabama, and ND.

Only 3 could lose and 3 did.

Mutaman

Quote from: Jockey on November 25, 2017, 10:56:27 PM
Take your love of sex criminals and pedophiles elsewhere.

We don't need your "lil' Chico" impression to destroy another thread.

If you want to talk college football, join in. If not, get the h3ll lost!!

Agreed. Sorry I had to prolong this but when somebody makes an erroneous statement, its my duty as an American to rectify it.

naginiF


Tugg Speedman

#113
Is there a scenario that gets three SEC teams in?  Auburn, Alabama, and Georgia?

If ...

tOSU beats Bucky
Clemson beats Miami
TCU beats OU

Basically, if OU, Bucky and The U lose, can the final four be Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn?

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Jockey on November 25, 2017, 10:56:27 PM
Take your love of sex criminals and pedophiles elsewhere.

We don't need your "lil' Chico" impression to destroy another thread.

If you want to talk college football, join in. If not, get the h3ll lost!!

I agree with you and apologize for dragging politics into this thread.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on November 27, 2017, 05:59:17 AM
Is there a scenario that gets three SEC teams in?  Auburn, Alabama, and Georgia?

If ...

tOSU beats Bucky
Clemson beats Miami
TCU beats OU

Basically, if OU, Bucky and The U lose, can the final four be Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn?

Doubt it.  I could see Bama and the winner of the SEC, but I doubt a 3-loss Auburn or a Georgia team that lost 2 of its last 3 would get in.  My guess would be Clemson, SEC Champ, Bama and OU.

That last spot could easily be tOSU or UW if it isn't OU.

Jockey

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on November 27, 2017, 06:04:39 AM
I agree with you and apologize for dragging politics into this thread.

Thanks, Heisy. You and I could argue politics from now 'til the end of time. Hopefully, we won't do it here.

Jockey

Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 27, 2017, 09:26:28 AM
Doubt it.  I could see Bama and the winner of the SEC, but I doubt a 3-loss Auburn or a Georgia team that lost 2 of its last 3 would get in.  My guess would be Clemson, SEC Champ, Bama and OU.

That last spot could easily be tOSU or UW if it isn't OU.

It will be interesting.

If each team wins, I think the four teams are OU, UW, Clemson, and Georgia.

Right now, the only one I am convinced will win is Clemson - which leaves the door open for Alabama or Auburn.

MU82

Rooting hard for OSU. I'd also kinda like to see Auburn win just because I like the idea of a 2-loss team upsetting the apple cart a little.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

If there is a way to get Ohio State in,  they will be in. CFP is only kind of about who deserves it.  It's mostly about $$$
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 28, 2017, 09:25:58 AM
If there is a way to get Ohio State in,  they will be in. CFP is only kind of about who deserves it.  It's mostly about $$$

Could you expound on this, TAMU? Are you saying that if OSU beats Wisconsin but otherwise things go the way pretty much everybody expects, the only reason OSU would get in is that somehow they are paying somebody off? Seriously, I'm not sure what you're saying.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on November 28, 2017, 09:43:59 PM
Could you expound on this, TAMU? Are you saying that if OSU beats Wisconsin but otherwise things go the way pretty much everybody expects, the only reason OSU would get in is that somehow they are paying somebody off? Seriously, I'm not sure what you're saying.

Not bribery, but OSU fans travel VERY well.  Buy tons of merch, etc...  OSU would have 3 losses including a pretty awful blowout loss to Iowa in the last month, not the strongest of resumes.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on November 28, 2017, 10:58:14 PM
Not bribery, but OSU fans travel VERY well.  Buy tons of merch, etc...  OSU would have 3 losses including a pretty awful blowout loss to Iowa in the last month, not the strongest of resumes.

UW fans also travel very well.

It is more about TV ratings.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU82 on November 28, 2017, 09:43:59 PM
Could you expound on this, TAMU? Are you saying that if OSU beats Wisconsin but otherwise things go the way pretty much everybody expects, the only reason OSU would get in is that somehow they are paying somebody off? Seriously, I'm not sure what you're saying.

I'm saying that if we get to place where OSU is one of the 6 teams who could reasonably be selected for the CFP, then I think they will be selected. To do that they would have to beat Wisconsin. It could be my inaccurate eye test, but it seems like for years bowl matchups have been more about generating the most revenue then what a team earned.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Pakuni

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 29, 2017, 02:07:16 PM
I'm saying that if we get to place where OSU is one of the 6 teams who could reasonably be selected for the CFP, then I think they will be selected. To do that they would have to beat Wisconsin. It could be my inaccurate eye test, but it seems like for years bowl matchups have been more about generating the most revenue then what a team earned.

I think that second loss to Iowa all but disqualifies OSU.
Even if they beat Bucky (and I think they will), it's hard to see them being selected over a 1-loss Alabama or 1-loss Georgia. They have two losses arguably worse than Alabama's and Georgia's one.

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