Interesting Day Ahead...

[StillAWarrior]

What I find hilarious about the whole "paid more if fired for cause" concept is that if that were indeed true, UA would simply fire him without cause.

Well, that would make for an interesting conversation/litigation:

Miller:  "You had cause to fire me, and you know it!  I was on tape talking about paying players.  If that's not cause, nothing is!"

UofA:  "What are you talking about?  We had absolutely no cause to fire you.  So, you paid players?  Who doesn't?!  We call that, 'just doing your job.'"

[warriorchick]

Well, that would make for an interesting conversation/litigation:

Miller:  "You had cause to fire me, and you know it!  I was on tape talking about paying players.  If that's not cause, nothing is!"

UofA:  "What are you talking about?  We had absolutely no cause to fire you.  So, you paid players?  Who doesn't?!  We call that, 'just doing your job.'"

"Dammit!  Just admit it!  You know I am dirty and there is no denying it!  On top of it all, I committed dozens of recruiting violations you don't even know about!"

[jesmu84]

So what is now everyone's thought about Sean Miller?

Still RIP?

[GGGG]

ESPN is sticking by their story and has actually reverted back to their original timeline.

[4everwarriors]

Miller is a fookin' dead man walkin', hey?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

heard a Tucson or Phx sports reporter on the Score tonight.  he said that Miller hasn't been recruiting since September.  Literally no recruiting. 

Don't know if the assistants are still doing work or if Miller is just a fookin' dead man walkin'.

[Tugg Speedman]

Brandon Williams decommitted.  He was the last of the 2018 recruiting class.

Zero new players coming in September.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/22626040/class-2018-espn-100-point-guard-brandon-williams-decommits-arizona-wildcats

Next will be the massive transfers and Ayton going pro after the season ends.

[skianth16]

Brandon Williams decommitted.  He was the last of the 2018 recruiting class.

Zero new players coming in September.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/22626040/class-2018-espn-100-point-guard-brandon-williams-decommits-arizona-wildcats

Next will be the massive transfers and Ayton going pro after the season ends.

Has the NCAA lifted the one year eligibility penalty for kids transferring out of programs hit with sanctions in the past? Maybe this could open some doors for us for next season given all the.. ahem, issues... being brought to light right now.

[wadesworld]

Brandon Williams decommitted.  He was the last of the 2018 recruiting class.

Zero new players coming in September.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/22626040/class-2018-espn-100-point-guard-brandon-williams-decommits-arizona-wildcats

Next will be the massive transfers and Ayton going pro after the season ends.

You also predicted Ayton would be ruled ineligible and Miller would be fired and neither would ever see another game for Arizona. In the meantime, Ayton has played in both games and Miller was back coaching last night. So we'll see how that massive transfers prediction goes. Maybe you'll go 1 for 3.

[MU82]

I'm confused. So Miller is claiming that wasn't him on the tape?

[BM1090]

I'm confused. So Miller is claiming that wasn't him on the tape?

No. He's claming the player discussed wasn't Ayton. And the player discussed ended up committing elsewhere, so he didn't commit any recruiting violations.

[skianth16]

I'm confused. So Miller is claiming that wasn't him on the tape?

Maybe I'm leaning toward the skeptics' side here, but he sure seems to use some very specific language when talking about the recent reports. Maybe very intentionally specific. He doesn't paint with a broad brush and say he did nothing wrong. He doesn't even mention anything about the wire tap. I'm guessing he got caught discussing a no-no, but what was reported is factually incorrect.

When Miller says that he has never paid a player, that could be true. But he could know that Mr. Rich Alum paid the player a la Blue Chips. Technically, Miller is being honest, but in reality, the situation is an NCAA violation, and possibly even a violation of bribery laws. He says a lot about what he himself hasn't done, but that doesn't mean that no one got paid or that no regulations were violated.

My money is on Miller losing his job once the atual wire tap is reviewed by the NCAA and/or the Arizona admins. For now, it sounds like he's going to continue to skate on thin ice, but the full details will be released eventually.

Miller's presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2tBSnfV9XM

A great discussion about Miller's presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3oA-8UkjQk

[forgetful]

I think Arizona realizes that the entire season is going to be vacated, Miller will be gone, and they will be doing a rebuild.

So they mind as well win the whole damn thing...at least they get that for now.  A vacated championship later is still a championship when it occurs.

[Tugg Speedman]

You also predicted Ayton would be ruled ineligible and Miller would be fired and neither would ever see another game for Arizona. In the meantime, Ayton has played in both games and Miller was back coaching last night. So we'll see how that massive transfers prediction goes. Maybe you'll go 1 for 3.

You actually think this is win for you?  You actually think the Board of Regents at AZ has done the right thing?

Becuase correct me if I'm the wrong because I do not recall you arguing Miller is a victim and all this would blow over.

Why are you gleeful that no one has been punished at AZ?

[Tugg Speedman]

So what is now everyone's thought about Sean Miller?

Still RIP?

Miller probably threatened them with lawsuits and his departure was going to make the program so toxic until this entire thing blows over, which it is not for a while.  So AZ figured they are so F'ed right now anyway they might as well ride out the rest of this season.  Probably all getting vacated anyway.

Or, are you in wadesworld camp that FBI tapes of him talking about payment is a bunch of nothing and all of this will die of boredom and go away?

[brewcity77]

I'm fully expecting Arizona to go to the Final Four now. Probably be joined by Michigan State, Auburn, and Louisville.

[wadesworld]

You actually think this is win for you?  You actually think the Board of Regents at AZ has done the right thing?

Becuase correct me if I'm the wrong because I do not recall you arguing Miller is a victim and all this would blow over.

Why are you gleeful that no one has been punished at AZ?

That's not what you were arguing at all.  Not even remotely close.  So I guess if you want to shift the goalposts that works.  I'm not gleeful about anything.  You were simply wrong, and in fact I believe you even posted that Ayton would not play another game for Arizona in his career AFTER they had already declared him ELIGIBLE for their next game.

[jesmu84]

You actually think this is win for you?  You actually think the Board of Regents at AZ has done the right thing?

Becuase correct me if I'm the wrong because I do not recall you arguing Miller is a victim and all this would blow over.

Why are you gleeful that no one has been punished at AZ?

That represents nothing about what Wades said or about your original prognostications

[jesmu84]

Miller probably threatened them with lawsuits and his departure was going to make the program so toxic until this entire thing blows over, which it is not for a while.  So AZ figured they are so F'ed right now anyway they might as well ride out the rest of this season.  Probably all getting vacated anyway.

Or, are you in wadesworld camp that FBI tapes of him talking about payment is a bunch of nothing and all of this will die of boredom and go away?

I was just curious if people's initial thoughts had changed

[jesmu84]

That's not what you were arguing at all.  Not even remotely close.  So I guess if you want to shift the goalposts that works.  I'm not gleeful about anything.  You were simply wrong, and in fact I believe you even posted that Ayton would not play another game for Arizona in his career AFTER they had already declared him ELIGIBLE for their next game.

Heisys response was.. weird..

But pretty standard. He makes a prediction. It turns out to be wrong. Someone points it out to him. He intentionally misstates/changes the statement made by "someone". Then shifts the goalposts of his original position

[MU82]

You actually think this is win for you?  You actually think the Board of Regents at AZ has done the right thing?

Becuase correct me if I'm the wrong because I do not recall you arguing Miller is a victim and all this would blow over.

Why are you gleeful that no one has been punished at AZ?

Smuggles:

The way I read what wades had said, he simply was happy to see you being wrong (again) after being so smug and positive about an opinion disguised as a "fact."

See, when a guy is so cocksure about every freakin' thing that he actually brags about his smugness, and then when instead of tanking the stock goes from 90 to 180, others get a little kick out of that.

[4everwarriors]

Miller is just muddin' the da fookin' cesspool stink. He's a deadman walkin' byein' sum tyme, aina?

[Tugg Speedman]

Smuggles:

The way I read what wades had said, he simply was happy to see you being wrong (again) after being so smug and positive about an opinion disguised as a "fact."

See, when a guy is so cocksure about every freakin' thing that he actually brags about his smugness, and then when instead of tanking the stock goes from 90 to 180, others get a little kick out of that.

I wrote "Ayton has played his last game" so wades believes the most important part of that is I was wrong?  However if I wrote "Ayton SHOULD have played his last game" then all of this goes away and wades probably agrees with me?

That what this is about, small minds correcting writing styles because that is more important than the subject.  And that is why people come to this thread, to watch others correct styles and grammar.

Hey Wades, I'm going to revise my last statement.... now that Miller weaseled out of getting fired, and the entire 2018 class has bailed on him, and if the previous post is correct that he has not gone on a recruiting trip since September, And Ayton will go pro, we should expect massive numbers of transfers this spring."

Feel better now?

[StillAWarrior]

After all this time, are we experiencing a break through?  Sure, it's smug and argumentative...but it does exhibit at least a trace of self-awareness.

[Dawson Rental]

Miller is just muddin' the da fookin' cesspool stink. He's a deadman walkin' byein' sum tyme, aina?

deadman walkin' or deadman circling the drain?