Interesting Day Ahead...

[B. McBannerson]

It has also been going on for 5-years.  I wouldn't have a problem with it if it also applied to administrators/coaches/athletic staff. 

But it doesn't, all those groups are exempt from the salary freezes and have been seeing in some cases double digit gains.

How much of their gains are from outside $ sources, like a foundation, boosters, etc?  Vs the standard university salary payment?

[jesmu84]

Did they make similar efforts to improve academics?  No!  Even though they have lower quality faculty and faculty salaries, they froze faculty raise pools to a maximum of 2%. 

The "required over payment" is BS.  It was simply a way to try to justify pouring tons of cash into athletics and to make the power brokers more powerful.  It had nothing to do with performance or academics, indeed it hurt academics.

Shocker. Same thing happens daily at large corporations, hospitals, etc. More money to the top. Promises of "trickle down" effect. End result? The rich get richer and the bottom 90% suffer

[B. McBannerson]

Shocker. Same thing happens daily at large corporations, hospitals, etc. More money to the top. Promises of "trickle down" effect. End result? The rich get richer and the bottom 90% suffer

I hate it that the QB gets paid way more than the other guys. So unfair. He couldn't do his job without the linemen doing theirs.

I hate it that top pitchers make more than anyone else, if it wasn't for the guys scoring runs for him.  So unfair.

Was so hoping this thread could stay away from the stuff, but alas.

[wadesworld]

I hate it that the QB gets paid way more than the other guys. So unfair. He couldn't do his job without the linemen doing theirs.

I hate it that top pitchers make more than anyone else, if it wasn't for the guys scoring runs for him.  So unfair.

Was so hoping this thread could stay away from the stuff, but alas.

Weren't you also hoping to stay away from MUScoop about a year ago with some super weird apology and story about the love of your life, which wasn't your wife?

Or was that hoopaloop?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I hate it that the QB gets paid way more than the other guys. So unfair. He couldn't do his job without the linemen doing theirs.

I hate it that top pitchers make more than anyone else, if it wasn't for the guys scoring runs for him.  So unfair.

Was so hoping this thread could stay away from the stuff, but alas.

Is the QB also negotiating his linemen's contracts?  Dumb analogy.  Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

[jesmu84]

I hate it that the QB gets paid way more than the other guys. So unfair. He couldn't do his job without the linemen doing theirs.

I hate it that top pitchers make more than anyone else, if it wasn't for the guys scoring runs for him.  So unfair.

Was so hoping this thread could stay away from the stuff, but alas.

People in power, at the top of their organizations, demanding their compensation be unequivocally high for pure individual short term gain and sell it as a benefit to everyone with no evidence that it has or will actually work.

Does that sound the same as a QB or pitcher negotiating their contract?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-college-basketball-scandal-20171010-story.html

Guy quoted in this article estimates that this scandal will lead to 40-50 head and assistant coaching vacancies in Division 1 basketball. Personally, I'll believe that when I see it....I can't even imagine the turmoil that could cause. An unprecedented coaching carousel.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Definite hearsay, but a guy I work with knows several D1 coaches and agents of coaches, and is very close with 1 major D1 coach in particular that told him upwards of 150 coaches (head and assistants) will go down, including many prominent names.

[Galway Eagle]

Definite hearsay, but a guy I work with knows several D1 coaches and agents of coaches, and is very close with 1 major D1 coach in particular that told him upwards of 150 coaches (head and assistants) will go down, including many prominent names.

If that were the case it'd be like the seen in dark knight when they arrest the entire mob and are charging them all at once

[Spotcheck Billy]

If those reports turn out to be even close to accurate, we will see the greatest amount of assistant coaches getting their 1st shot at head coaching positions as well as offers being thrown to former head coaches and possibly even NBA coaches/assistants.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Buzz to everywhere.

[79Warrior]

Definite hearsay, but a guy I work with knows several D1 coaches and agents of coaches, and is very close with 1 major D1 coach in particular that told him upwards of 150 coaches (head and assistants) will go down, including many prominent names.

If that is true, then the whole D-1 College bball landscape would have huge problems.

[Herman Cain]

Buzz to everywhere.

Would love to see Coach Crean get a top drawer job.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Would love to see Coach Crean get a top drawer job.

Presuming Crean doesn't get caught up in the scandal, I think he lands a solid job anyway.  It won't take 150 coaches losing their jobs for him to get one.  Kevin O'Neill on the other hand...

[Galway Eagle]

This is definitely a conspiracy theory but is it possible the NBA is the ones that pulled for this investigation? Maybe leaked info or something? Many of these kids would be going to the Gleague right away so the minor league system actually becomes a moneymaker for them.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Just to be clear, the ~150 number included assistants.  It'd guess head coaches are in the 30-40 range.  But yes, still will have an enormous impact if even close to true.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

The real underlying issue is that Stern screwed this all up when he made high school players go through a year of college before entering the NBA draft.

I can almost guarantee you that the one and done rule will cease to exist within the next three years.

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

The real underlying issue is that Stern screwed this all up when he made high school players go through a year of college before entering the NBA draft.

I can almost guarantee you that the one and done rule will cease to exist within the next three years.

I can guarantee you it will still be around.  It is part of the CBA with the union which is in force until 2022.  And "Stern" didn't put this rule in place.  It was collectively bargained.  The owners wanted it and the players let them have it.

Regardless, it's not the NBA's fault that these guys broke the law.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Maybe the best way to solve the problem is to put an age limit on the NBA.  Must be 20 or 21 to be drafted means kids need to stay in college for at least 2 years.  May result in some kids going oversees, but I think it ultimately increases the CBB product as it would eliminate the 1 and done.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

There's an SI article (that I haven't read yet) that says "The NCAA is broken, but you knew that already.  Here's how to fix."

[buckchuckler]

Maybe the best way to solve the problem is to put an age limit on the NBA.  Must be 20 or 21 to be drafted means kids need to stay in college for at least 2 years.  May result in some kids going oversees, but I think it ultimately increases the CBB product as it would eliminate the 1 and done.

Or eliminate it.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Or eliminate it.

Wouldn't putting an age limit on NBA draft eliminate it?

[buckchuckler]

Wouldn't putting an age limit on NBA draft eliminate it?

Eliminate the current age limit, is what I meant.

[wadesworld]

I don't think putting an age requirement on the draft would change anything because...well, there already is one.

I also don't think eliminating the 1 year after your high school class graduates requirement would stop college recruits from getting paid by shoe brands and/or schools.

There will always be top available talent.  If you take away the Balls and Fultzs of the world from college basketball for a season they will be replaced by Omri Spellmans or Rawle Alkeninses of the world that schools/brands will then pay to pick a certain school.

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Eliminate the current age limit, is what I meant.

Why should the NBA fix the NCAAs problems?